Bryke handing us crappily written earth/air and fire/water couples to show why Taang and Zutara couldn't work is so on brand. They're so bad at writing healthy relationships, my God.
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Bryke handing us crappily written earth/air and fire/water couples to show why Taang and Zutara couldn't work is so on brand. They're so bad at writing healthy relationships, my God.

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âKill your darlings.â
This is a term for creatives that means that even though you may like some part(/scene/character) very, very much, you need to be able to make decisions for the betterment of the larger story.
It refers to being able to step back and see the whole project and make decisions for THAT instead of your personal feelings.
This is how creatives improve. This is how creatives in places of privilege (they get their projects on the big screen) stay humbleâfor lack of a better wordâand prioritize their story and audience, instead of their personal wants.
âFeedback isnât a personal attack.â
Another BIG, important lesson for creatives. The artistic process is dialogue and that dialogue includes feedback. Said feedback canât and wonât be nothing but praise. Not all feedback needs to nor ought to be taken seriously and enacted, but it still leads to improvementâespecially those who are in uninterrogated places of privilege and leaning on biases. It also includes being able to listen to others in the writing rooms!
Good artists understand THIS (both points), instead of being lauded as the most talented. Praise and the demand to have nothing but it creates stagnation, even deevolution, and a needy, immature creative that canât handle what the artistic process involves, especially when theyâve âmade it big.â These creatives throw public fits, attack people who âhateâ on their creation even if theyâre ostensibly fans, and even insult such fans and send their fan base after them. âProofâ that theyâre a good creative and deserve their place and whomeverâs âhatingâ on them is stupid and childish is that place in the industry.
Various creative classes do this with peer reviews, and some form of feedback day involving the whole class or groups.
Notable creatives are:
James Cameron, who made a colonization white-savior fantasy that exotifies native/indigenous women (literally used a MINORâs features without consent nor reimbursement, Qâorianka Kilcher), uses extant indigenous peoples/cultures as an easy cheat to making alien cultures (not real representation and using), hasnât done anything with his vast amounts of wealth to actually help any of these peoples, could not try to step out of his whiteness and westernness to have truly âalienâ soundtrack nor have bipoc co-creators (has token actors who took on a LOT), couldnât even hire people of those peoples to be those aliens, and couldnât interrogate or try to step out of his whiteness nor Christianity for his movies.
Vivziepop, who dismisses things sheâs done in the pastâas an adult, hired a cowriter and VA whoâs known for rape âjokesâ and has been recently outed for blackface. Who does not, in fact, have real representation for the queer community nor sexual violence victims, hired a rape fetishist on the team and had them handle that character/dynamic, defended that employeeâs position by lying about their own victim status and weaponizing victim status against those (many of them victims) speaking out against how wrong it was, sacrificing narrative and characterization for a gay relationship thatâs abusive but victim blames the victim in it, uwu-ifying the abuser, platforms a surprising amount of sexual harassment (obviously in a way that enables it; itâs a punch line), fetishizing incest/twincest (it included merch, and very obviously wasnât just for a bit in the narrative), has no real BIPOC representation, sacrifices her female character LEADS for whatever the male characters are doing, only writes the same dynamics of main casts, and weaponizes her audience (fans) against âhaters.â
That Marvel comic artist who canât draw women and throws a fit whenever someone points it out.
Emerald Fennel, who made that âadaptionâ (white woman fanfic) of Wuthering Heights.
Kojima, of MGS creation, who canât let go of his racism, colorism, and misogyny, and gets too big on himself about making insane plots and plot twists.
Gooseworx and co, who canât take true responsibility for racism and enablement of such (micro) aggressions that led to larger actions.
Bryke, of AtlA creation, who couldnât diversify the writers room of their series revolving around eastern and Inuit cultures, and forced a romance between two of the cast (12/13 and 15/16) that did not fit well into the narrativeâand apparently also bullied a minor fan for not shipping it.
(Aaand thereâs actually more about just these creatives.)
Anti Bryke and/or Zutara shippers, are you guys tired?
Has complaining about the same show over and over for 20+ years now not gotten to you yet?
Has seeing millions of other people enjoying the franchise without a care in the world made you feel like your efforts are just a waste of energy?
Have you ever thought about just ignoring the franchise as a whole and moving onto something else?
Is there any self-awareness that other stories and pieces of media may fulfill your excruciatingly specific yet generic standards you have for storytelling and characters?
Do you ever get a little embarrassed of spending so much time and energy on trying to insult the creators of a kidsâ show?
Have you ever sat and realized that most of the content in the franchise doesnât entice you, and that it may not be worth the energy to continue to larp as a fan of it?
Have you ever thought that your interpretations of the story and its characters being so at odds with what is happening means you simply just donât like the show as a whole and maybe should look elsewhere for entertainment?
Are you exhausted of finding new ways to hate on every single piece of new content and media to drop in the franchise?
Are you bored yet of having to fit your criticisms into new stories in the franchise where you have to twist the narrative so far that it doesnât even resemble what happens?
Are you guys tired?
Zutara aka Katara-Zuko community on Livejournal
I used to be a mod on here when the show was airing (as @rashaka).
I read recently that Livejournal may be soon taken down entirely as a platform. It hasn't been itself in 15 years but I will be sad to lose all of the fandom content that existed there through the 2000s. Zutara fandom was a huge part of my fandom experience and I have a soft place in my heart for it.
If anyone wants a time capsule, look at this ship community and go back to the dates when the show was airing. See what people thought about the ships, the showrunners, the fandom.
Some highlights
Episode discussion: Cossroads of Destiny
Episode discussion: The Southern Raiders
Episode discussion: Ember Island Players
Episode discussion: Sozin's Comet
rec: large rec lists
fan-fiction
On a related note, you may enjoy the ATLA tag for the ship-manfiesto community, which has two Zutara manifestos and some for the other major pairings as well.
For reference, here's the tags on the katar_zuko community:
â ïž: Do not download anything from the ads on this site. Livejournal has been compromised as a platform owned by the Russian government for years now.
In that regard, some posts are likely gone/lost/deleted. Many of the links to videos or art no longer work. This is not a full snapshot of the community, but it can give insight into how ephemeral fanworks are when they live primarily in social media platforms. The internet is not forever after all.
What the actual F*CK am I reading?
TW: Grooming, Racism, R*pe, Grooming Dan Schneider
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This might have to be one of the worst Avatar takes Iâve come across, claiming Katara of all characters is a punching bag and that she and her relationship with Aang is a racist, trade-wife fantasy. I have no words.
And then saying that Bryke are trying to GROOM children, WHAT?
I shouldnât have to explain how wrong this take is.
First of all, Aang himself ainât even white, thereâs literally nothing to suggest he âemotionally breaksâ Katara, or that he cut her off from her culture and turned her into a tradwife, or forced her to have kids, or abandoned her, literally NOTHING in any Avatar media supports this, why TF is OP lying
This literally has every and I mean EVERY bad Anti-Kataang argument in the book.Â
âThey always make Katara look younger around Aangâ
Avatar (like most cartoons) has different animators per episode, sometimes they all look younger or older depending on whoâs animating. Also OP calls Katara a f*cking SEX OBJECT!
âKatara is sexualizedâ
This is literally Aangâs POV, nothing about this sexualizes her.
âKatara was pretending to be Aangâs motherâ
Sokka was also PRETENDING to be Aangâs father and Kataraâs husband, thatâs his sister.
âLa Pietaâ
REPRESENTS GRIEF, itâs been used for romantic couples in other media for decades.
âKatara does all the workâ
SHE LITERALLY SAY IN âTHE CHASEâ THAT EVERYONE DOES THEIR FAIR SHARE OF WORK!
âSelf-insert claimsâ
Using out of context interviews, screenshots from the PITCH IDEA of the show, a freaking wedding topper from 2014, ignoring the fact that Bryan specifically relates to ZUKO and considers him his MAIN DUDE!Â
OP falsely claims Bryan and Michael have fetishes for r@pe and colonization (along with the âdemonizationâ of bloodbending) Iâm dead serious.
Again, thereâs nothing to suggest this, the closest I can think of is various non-consent kisses between various characters, but thatâs a HUGE stretch, I shouldnât even mention it.
OP claims âAang colonizes Katara's body, mind, and soul, in the name of healing his own genocidal woundâ
They are aware Aang and Katara mutually agreed to have kids, right? And it wasnât even for the purpose of ârepopulatingâ.
But one of the worst parts of this is the ZUKO GLAZE FEST.
How Zuko, the guy who raided her home, attacked her, betrayed her trust and sent an assassin after her group, apparently treated her the best and is a POSITIVE foil to Aang, because he learned that doing all this was a BAD THING?
For f*ckâs sake, Zuko didnât even help Katara until she called him out for being indignant that she rightfully didnât trust him. I love Zuko and his relationship with Katara, I love that they form a genuine friendship, but glazing Zuko for âamendingâ all the bad stuff he did by basically doing one nice thing, while treating Aang (a genocide and colonization survivor) as a rapacious colonist? Screw you.
OP tries to justify this absolutely tone-deaf post by saying theyâve studied this type of thing.
but I genuinely cannot believe that, because how you do you come to the conclusion that A:TLA, a show about colonization victims banding together to end an oppressive regime, is colonist porn?
How do you come to the notion that Kataraâs ONLY purpose is to be some indigenous, eye-candy that is abused by Aang and only serves to be a his tradwife?
How the flying f*ck do you assume that Zuko, the guy who literally raided her village, kidnapped and attacked her is NOT a colonist fantasy, but her simply having feelings for and being in a relationship with a FELLOW colonist survivor as PRO-COLONIST propaganda?
Lastly OP, compares Bryan and Michael to DAN SCHNEIDER of all people.
If you donât know, Dan worked on a majority of live-action of Nickelodeon shows and was a child groomer with multiple allegations made against him, treated his child stars downright horribly, traumatizing many of them.Â
I donât wanna sound like a Bryke glazer, but they shouldnât even be compared to THAT GUY, NO ALLEGATIONS have been made against them, they never actively abused or sexually harassed any of their actors, theyâve done next to NOTHING on that level of controversy. This is a very serious allegation, and it barely makes sense considering A:TLA was an animated division and Schneider worked with live-action on set sitcoms.
Really this whole post makes me sick, OP doesnât give a f*ck about Katara, it all comes back to being pissy that their preferred ship isnât canon, and Katara didnât make-out with Zuko like in their AO3 fics, so OP desperately and pathetically tries to make Aang and his relationship with Katara as problematic as possible with next to no basis, and even accuses the creators of A:TLA for being in cahoots with a literal child groomer.Â
The OP is a genuinely disgusting person to make such vile claims.
Itâs honestly okay to prefer Zutara and NOT like Kataang, but this is pathetic in every way, please touch a field of grass.
Also, donât harass OP, they ainât right, but harassing this person wonât solve anything.
OK, bye.

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I really suspect that Bryke were never personally onboard with the deification of Iroh but they generally just went with the flow here. It was other people who were pushing it.
Am I the only one who thinks that the path of Iroh actually being on Ozai's side and have been sent to topple Zuko's firebending and teach him wrong on purpose to slow him down, finally betraying Zuko would have been so interesting to watch?? It would have made more sense to me that the "I've always been good" thing Iroh has in the show, comparing his pre series S1 attitude and the true mentor he became at S2
https://knightedgemedia.com/2026/01/massive-changes-netflixs-avatar-the-last-airbender-almost-had-under-mike-dimartino-bryan-konietzko/
I know this may be a controversial opinion, but I still believe that bryke intentionally baited makorra fans by keeping mako present in the scenes where korra faced zaheer. In my view, those scenes could have been replaced with asami to make korrasami feel more natural and believable as the endgame pairing.
The âwe popping the biggest bottles when makorra happens tomorrowâ meme didnât emerge randomly; it was a direct response to how the show handled these moments. While I understand korra writing to asami shouldâve been the clue, to me it came across as her feeling more comfortable talking to asami as a friend than to mako or bolin. But if the goal was to fully secure korrasami as the canonical ship, I believe changing those scenes wouldâve been a more effective approach. I also made a similar post calling them out before on their handling of korra and asami.