#atla fandom problems

Ya'll couldn't even handle them.

But also, the idea of rejecting a helping hand is true...for Zuko. Aang, Katara, Iroh, they all offer him a chance at redemption and he brutally denies them every time. When he actually redeems himself, he and he alone chooses that.

Remember in my other post when I said I don't like how Bryke uplift their air nomads characters by using their water tribe characters as stepping stool.

Yeah this is why, because I'm pretty sure if Bryke not only acknowledged their flaws but didn't normalise it, people wouldn't argue this. If there was no war Hakoda would have been there, there was no war for Aang but he didn't prioritise his kids.

Like seriously, the both of them were abused, end of story. Just in different ways. Ursa neglected Azula in favour of Zuko and treated her like a monster because she was scared for Azula and knew Ozai would have influence over her the minute she showed to be a prodigy. Zuko was mentally and PHYSICALLY abused by Ozai even before he was burned and was constantly told he was worthless and deserved to die. The reason Zuko didn't end up like Azula isn't because he had it easier, it's because Iroh was there after his banishment to support him, if he wasn't then Zuko would end up exactly like Azula and that's the point isn't it? If Zuko was left in charge of a ship as a royal who sees everyone around him as lesser then he would've developed the same superiority complex as Azula's but would've spiraled faster because he didn't have a Mai and Ty Lee to hold him back. Mai and Ty Lee were the closest things Azula had to an Iroh and she spiraled the minute she lost them.

They're both traumatised and abused kids but we should stop saying who had it worse, they were in the same situation.

Also, STOP WITH THE INCEST THEORIES. AZULA NEVER TRIED TO SEDUCE ZUKO YOU F*CKING CREEPS! ZUKO HAD HIS DAUGHTER WITH MAI, NOT AZULA, SHUT UP! JUST SHUT UP!

The original show literally set the standard for strong female leads in 2000s western animation. I can’t think of a single character who’s improved in this remake.

Katara in particular has it the WORST, she loses her passion, her outspokenness, her strength. The Painted Lady, one of the best episodes showcasing Katara’s determination and compassion is reduced to a Painted Lady x Blue Spirit AO3 Zuko glaze.

Even characters like Suki and Mai get it rough. Gone is Suki standing her ground against Sokka’s sexism, with that aspect gone, she’s just thirsty for the guy for no reason, and Mai straight up has no problem ratting out, betraying or even killing those close to her, she tries to KILL Ty-Lee because Azula told her too, which Ty-Lee returns. WTF is this show’s problem.

To mention some other points, Jet was never treated as an irredeemable monster in the original show, in Book 2, he actively tries to amend his ways and dies helping the Gaang, tragically killed by the nation he defended, but here he just dies in the Library.

And don’t get me started on Aang, first off, he never saw Katara as a “prize” in the original show, second he has TWO moments where he “crashes out”, the first because he just lost Appa, the second because he’s burdened with having to kill a guy, which no one understands. In the first case he clearly realized he was out of line by the end of the episode, and the second he leaves the group so he can calm down.

In addition to being an incredibly watered down train-wreck of an adaptation, lacking the flaws, faults and growth that made Aang compelling (such is his initially running away, or visiting the Guru) along with being WAY to serious, this Aang straight up agrees with Pakku that Katara SHOULDN’T fight and chastises Katara for wanting to help others as the Painted Lady, when the original Aang was nothing but supportive.

Lastly, removing scenes like this is just a disservice to the show and really sums up a major problems with this remake, it takes away the depth of BOTH Aang and Katara. This highlights how deep Aang’s grief is, he tries to keep a positive attitude and remain positive, but he’ll always have that trauma an emotional baggage of being a genocide survivor, and Katara emphasizes with this, she isn’t afraid, she isn’t under any obligation, she’ll literally put herself in danger to support a friend because her compassion is her strength.

No disrespect to OP, but the tags really say it all…

They don’t care about the original show, they don’t care about good writing or three-dimensional characters, or genuinely well-written strong female characters, it’s all about the shipping and the Zuko glazing and the Blue Spirit x Painted Lady AO3 fic they wormed into this show.

I genuinely cannot understand how anyone would prefer this remake over the original, it’s worse in literally every way. That’s not even getting into the pacing, story elements that make no sense, annoying cliches, that awful climax where Aang in the Avatar State chokes Azula, almost beating her and Azula only wins because Aang stops and shows mercy.

OH REALLY?

The same Katara who was ecstatic that Aang came to save her and had faith that he would come

The same Katara who in tears and heartbroken because Aang literally left her in “The Awakening” because he felt that it was his duty to save the world by himself?

They want Katara to hate Aang so badly, because THEY hate Aang for not just letting go of his feelings and ignoring his vision of the girl he cares about in danger, and getting in the way of their fan-ship

I mean, the tags say it all, why do I always see Zutara, Anti-Kataang and Anti-Aang of all things in the Pro-Katara tag? Why do they only see Katara’s worth in the guy she ends up with?