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"It’s all forgettable with just a single drink, and yet I always hesitate…”
I read a post where two users were arguing about something concerning Achilles, and user B responded something like this: "Achilles and Deidamia are canon, and Patroclus and Achilles aren't."
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Yes, me giving an unsolicited opinion, but I'll do it anyway, and I'll start with a fact: there is no canon in Greek mythology. There are many versions of the same myth depending on the period, place, and region where it's told, so there's hardly a canon in Greek mythology. Homer's Iliad may or may not be canon, since it was also written long after the epics about the Trojan War. There are thousands of versions of the same myth, and none of them would be "canon"; rather, it depends on which version each person prefers.
Second, going back to the canon, it also depends on the version whether Achilles and Deidamia were together. If we base it solely on the Iliad, no, they weren't together, because Deidamia isn't even mentioned in the Iliad. She appears much later in other versions, such as the Achilleid, where it's recounted that Achilles disguised himself as a woman on Skyros. In that version, in my opinion, it wasn't really a relationship because Achilles raped Deidamia, and Neoptolemus was born from that union, while Deidamia stayed with Achilles because they already had a child.
Depending on the version, Achilles may or may not have been with Deidamia or with other lovers mentioned, such as Iphigenia, Briseis, Medea, and others. It all depends on which version each person prefers.
Regarding Patroclus and Achilles, even if it's not seen as romantic, I think it could be one of Achilles' most important relationships within the Iliad, however you look at it, and it's the one that has been most minimized in modern portrayals, such as Troy from 2004. It wasn't until about ten years ago that the idea of Achilles and Patroclus being lovers began to be more normalized.
But even in antiquity, many assumed they were lovers and had the same arguments we have today about whether they were lovers or not, and that just makes me think that their relationship, even if it wasn't romantic, is so relevant that we have to discuss whether they were lovers or not.
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Divine Achilles left his spear to lie
among the tamarisks on the riverbank.
With just his sword he leapt into the river,
his heart intent on ruin, like a god.
Whirling around, he hacked and slashed and struck them,
And from the victims of his blade arose
desperate, agonizing wails. The water
ran red with blood.
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Inktober 06: Thracian huntress courting the Amazon Penthesilea.
“The white-ground alabastron is signed by the Pasiades Painter, 525-500 BC. As noted, women’s pottery often featured Amazons, but this vase is highly unusual. On one side, a ponytailed Thracian woman steps forward, clad in high boots and a leopard skin, with a large snake coiled around one arm. A poorly preserved inscription appears to give her name as Theraichme, “Huntress”. She is gallantly presenting a rabbit to an Amazon on the other side of the vase, clearly labeled “Penthesilea.”
“So this scene is a startling reversal of a common male courtship theme, in which a suitor presents a rabbit as a love-token to his beloved. This unique scene is not known from any myth or literary text about Penthesilea. We can guess that the image is a provocative twist on the expected theme of rabbit love-gifts and hunting trophies as a courtship metaphor among homosexual men. The gesture also reminds us of Meleager presenting his lover Atalanta with the trophy of the Calydonian Boar Hunt. Possibly this painting illustrates a lost story about a Thracian woman and Penthesilea, who was a Thracian by birth.”
The Amazons: Lives and Legends of Warrior Women across the Ancient World by Adrienne Mayor.