I made this account to lurk and Absorb Deltarune Fan Content, but then I remembered that I actually like engaging with people. Oops. Here is a little bit about me.
You can just refer to me by my blog name. If we talk, I'll tell you my name. I'm probably gonna end up pretty lax about it, but at the moment, I don't want to have my name that easy to access. Jury's out on whether it's because I care about this aspect of my privacy or if I just want to feel mysterious.
I'm kind of in a weird place of being mentally way better off than I ever imagined I could be, but now trying to reclaim the things that brought me joy and life back when I was unwell. Hence, fandom stuff. I'm also writing again. I was somewhat scared that I'd lost my creativity forever. But nah, I've still got it.
Currently, I'm astonishingly into Deltarune. Deltarune will probably be what most of my blog is. it gets my brain juices flowing. It holds my hand through questions about my purpose, about what it means to persist, about how I can make the best of what I can control in my life while coping with what I can't. It also has peak yaoi. I can't say no to peak yaoi.
Oh yeah and Homestuck jumpscared me, prepare for that to be the next bit of insanity here.
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cw discourse: you know now that I'm thinking about it idk how to define this. Similar to real life topics but... about fiction mostly? I'll know it when I see it. Really shouldn't be that frequent tho
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The best part of papyrusās whole deal in undertale is the more you play the game you realize he lowkey is the coolest guy around and Sans is right on the money. āIsnāt my bro coolā fuck dude he sure is
That ācringeā nonbinary xenogender genderfuck therian who uses neopronouns and may or may not go on HRT while being loudly, proudly themselves will always be more revolutionary and subversive than a binary trans person who aggressively reproduces the cis status quo and shames anyone who doesnāt do the same.
By the way, I threw ātherianā in here as a bit of a litmus test for those responding to it as something widely regarded as ācringeā but ultimately completely harmless and benign thatās often maligned by people with conservative beliefs. And well. It did its job quite amazingly given how many of the negative responses Iāve seen have focused on that rather than the overall message of shaming people for their identities is bad and counterproductive. Itās almost like these people view all of those stated identities this way but used the silly furry one as a āweak pointā theyād get minimal pushback on to dismiss the very clear point of the post. Literally hilarious honestly
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or: luka's big beautiful dirkjake dump as a nuanced jakeliker (warning LONG POST with CORRECT GRAMMAR)
A few disclaimers:
Iām not trying to stake my claim on any ācorrectā interpretation. It has been a bit since I finished my reread, and the quotes here are mainly out of pesterlogs whose context I recall only from memory, so Iām sure it wonāt all be by-the-books accurate. That aside, Iām just here because Iām fucking crazy and really want to talk about my DirkJake thoughts.
A lot of my opinions are amalgamations of other deconstructions Iāve read (borzoilover, optimisticDuelist, Casey Jarmes etc), to which Iād like to doubly emphasize the above pointāif it seems familiar, thatās probably cuz it is! I'm not original!!
THE REAL SHIT
ON DIRK AND JAKE: BRIEFLY
First, I will establish in brief my readings of their characters. This'll be reiterated in a bit more detail under the cut.
In my eyes, DIRK is a deeply self-loathing, conflicted trans boy who relied on media to learn about personhood while in isolation. Though first appearing as a cutting control freak (and let's be real, he is), Dirk is not as good a manipulator as he believes himself to be. The Prince of Heart destroys Heart ā soul, identity, desire, impulse ā in others, yes, but also destroys through an overabundance of Heart. He is a fifteen year old who believes he is evil and tends to serve his heart beating on a platter to all his friends. Wants to be a useful asset. Clingy; starved for contact in a way that has him never feeling full. Acutely aware of roles within the group, eg who is or is not acting as 'leader'. His attitudes towards romance/sex are borne from the internet and anime.
Meanwhile, JAKE is a "cis" "boy" who projects the persona of, and orients his expectations around, the movie heroes he grew up watching. He is not dumb, but tends to lean on plausible deniability + social expectations in order to affirm his ideas of what the world should be. The Page of Hope must learn to stop relying on others for, and eventually harness, their own Hope ā manifestation, idealized future, what could be ā to grow as a person. He wants to be admired, loved, and important. Itās just that, right now, to be admired and loved and important is to be A Man, something he feels he is not. So instead, he relies on others to construct opportunities for him, which feeds into his already non-confrontational nature. His attitudes towards romance/sex are borne from popular movies (often those with machismo).
They both want control over each other, whole.
Jake wants to affect Dirk ā to see that his actions are substantial, that even the facade is working, to be genuinely acknowledged by others.Ā
Dirk wants Jake's affections ā we already know heās clingy. He villainizes himself so much that it loops back around, weirdly, and makes him even more dependent on whatever love he might receive. He wants Jake to be available for him and act as a sort of center, lest he be stranded.
...with all of the above acknowledging that they're just misled, socially stunted teenagers.
Something I particularly enjoy about their dynamic is how their respective posturing and ideas of romance/masculinity interact. Letās just get it out of the way: it goes badly.
Hereās the way I see it.
Both Dirk and Jake want to be idolized. Dirk gets this from Jake by building him the Brobot, impressing him with sheer knowledge and control and coolness; Jake gets this by capitalizing on Dirk's obvious crush on him; and both espouse conventional standards of masculinity in completely different directions, which are, to the other, the impossible ideal.Ā
Masculinity is crucial to talk about here, particularly in Jakeās case. See, hereās my take on Jake and romance. He is enthused by the idea of silver-screen relationships, but finds himself falling very short when itās time to actually participate in one; if anything, I read him as having a relatively flippant/apathetic attitude about the concept of love itself. Based on the short bit in the Jane conversation, I imagine he doesnāt really care all that much about gender in the romantic/sexual context (I would actually argue much less so than Dirk does).Ā
GT: But then...
GT: Later i started thinking.Ā
GT: Maybe i was being kind of unfair to him in the first place?Ā
GT: I mean by saying we would be a good match only if he was a girl.
GT: Like is that last condition there really all THAT important?
If anything, his constant assumptions of romantic interest are less genuine yearning and more another facet of his movie-star-hero aspirations. Having babes off the arms is a movie trope, a status symbol, but not necessarily capital-L Love. This isnāt me saying that he canāt romantically loveāmy personal headcanon is that heās demisexual, or at least on the aroace spectrumābut that he is initially more interested in the fantasy of it, a sentiment I have seen echoed by sex-favorable asexuals. Crucially, a hypothetical fantasy, without any real āyouā in the mix. Heās down with the idea of being pined after at the surface level not because heās genuinely interested in romance, but moreso because it checks off another box on the Real Man Listāthe Real Man who is notably not him.
In terms of affection and vulnerability, both are starving; the difference is that Dirk is never satiated, ravenously hungry (and self-hating for it), while Jake suffers from a kind of metaphorical refeeding syndrome, quick to overwhelm and scare. Interestingly, I find this reflected in their respective projected selves: Jakeās bravado and adventurous dreams are inherently individual, the one male Hero and distant admirable figure, while Dirkās focus on leadership is actually more community-oriented, controlling and protectiveāthough misled.Ā Ā
I feel this also comes into play with how these personas are reaffirmed or threatened.Ā
Jake has a tendency to ācastā people in roles and quietly, through passiveness, leading questions, and faux-obliviousness (or otherwise plausible deniability), set up certain interactions to go whichever way would be most comfortable while upkeeping his adventurer image. I am thinking particularly of the Jane confession here, by the way.Ā
(The above is a pasted image that I couldn't be arsed to get out of my notes and actually transcribe in a smart sounding way. alt text available. yay)
All that to say, Jake relies on his friends as sounding boards that can bounce back the image of the man he thinks he should be. His posturing is not for the sake of his friends as much as it is for himselfāit affirms that he is (or is at least convincingly appearing to be) the brave renegade, and lets him occasionally sidestep the complicated gray areas of friendship.Ā
On the other hand, Dirk keeps up a tightly-wound demeanor as a means to have a sense of control, yes, but also because I deeply believe he sees himself as a predator. Something to be stifled and limited, overflowing with manipulative, desperate wants, that cannot be ālet off the leashā or else someone will be terribly hurt. He does not trust his own motivations; thereās always the chance that theyāre deeper, darker, and so well-hidden that he, in the throes of cold-heartedness, barely noticed to begin with. I read Princes as people that are tormented by an overabundance of their Aspect, and therefore destroy it/destroy through it⦠this is mainly because of Dirk. He is positively drowning in himself, his identity, his desires, his trajectory as a person, all of which are ill-intentioned; therefore, he uses the persona to try and āsaveā his friends and tighten himself up such that none of the ugliness inside can ooze out. There is still an element of thinking he does know better, for the record, at least in those early logs referring to how he comments on Jane and Jake. He does use his friends and assumed position as leader as ways to reaffirm his own sense of controlābut, in the bigger picture, these are mostly efforts to protect the others, rather than himself.
Now, this probably sounds like me demonizing Jake and advocating for Dirkās innocence. What a subversive spin on the popular Dirk-bully and Jake-stupid-victim narrative! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ā not at all. I think that both are terrible for each other, but just as inevitable, and capable of growing into more stable people. There is no āgoodā or ābadā party. Just fucked up, undersocialized, unstable kids with communication issues.
In particular, Jake often operates largely off his emotional whims. If one big emotion blows his way, heāll take it and go, āyup, this is what I am now.ā This, of course, leads to a lot of end-of-comic self loathing, but also to an extent begets his hollow, unyielding faith in things. A faith, a belief, that is very convenient in not rocking the boat, not questioning his manly persona, and not lingering on the decisions he makes (or at least trying not to).
Remember the above when I say: he is an incredibly vulnerable, insecure, and sensitive person who is so easily taken advantage of and belittled. It is SO easy for him to lose hope in himself. And by the end of Homestuck, it would make sense for him to never believe in anyone again.
The end of his arc is a wet, infected wound, ending on the conclusion that he cannot believe in or love others, much less himself. He has played his prescribed role in other peoples' lives, and made others play a role for him, passively watching on and trying to tip the scales in his own favor, always to his own eventual ruin.
Ultimately, he is scared of people finding out that he is not the man he promised.Ā
But Dirk knows this.
THAT is where this all comes together, in my view. The core of Dirkjakeās relationship, past being good buds, is an unspoken dancing-around, and mutual knowledge, of the otherās insincerity. Something that is as special as it is raw and dangerous.Ā
When I say dangerous, I am talking about how their very senses of self are balanced by neither person ābreaking the bitā and saying exactly what they know the other to be. I would consider this aspect of their relationship as based on a sort of play, a mutual knowing that both are aware of but neither acknowledge.
I donāt think thereās too much overt evidence for this in-text, but itās how I choose to interpret bits like the below given Jakeās well-demonstrated awareness and flirtation towards Dirk.
GT: Hehe. You nerd.
GT: Hes got your slick japanese spectacles and everything.
GT: Why is this a metal man before me or is it none other than dirk strider himself in my room??
TT: One thing at a time, bro. I haven't quite figured out a way to get myself there yet.
GT: It almost sounds like this is something youve given some thought...
Their exchanges are catty and tongue-in-cheek. They both know whatās up with the otherās persona, they do the same thing, but it is entirely unspoken, only jabbed at in subtext. In this case, however, it is just TEXT:Ā
TT: I thought you liked to manicure the image of a dude who shits his pants over a good adventure.Ā
GT: I do!
GT: I mean i wouldnt put it in a way like that or come out against a solid policy of clean trousers. But yes adventure is awesome.Ā
GT: I just prefer the idea of adventures which i can actually win.
āManicure the image.ā Itās not shit your pants over a good adventure, no; he is acutely aware about the persona-crafting going on here.
Admittedly, it comes from the maw of AR, but I still find it applicable to Dirkās character and therefore knowledge of Jake considering that AR is modelled on his brain.
Here are a few other snippets that I read as being tongue-in-cheek:Ā
GT: The last thing i need on my bday is another installment of and i quote manbro bukkake theater.Ā
TT: You still don't actually know what that means, do you.Ā
GT: Not really? Its your friggin figure of speech man. I gathered it just meant getting slimed like in ghost busters or somesuch.Ā
TT: Kind of. I told you to look it up.
GT: Yeah yeah. Im a busy fella dirk!Ā
GT: Wikipedia is a lot of letters to type in a thing for a man of action on the go.Ā
GT: Im always doing adventures remember?
^ this REEKS to me of the exact coyness Iām describing ā he knows that Dirk knows that itās an overblown charade, and pokes fun at it. To anyone else, he might seem genuine. But āIm always doing adventures remember?ā seems more like a sly jab at insider knowledge.Ā
GT: Nor am i a quaint man of the past. Pardon me but do i SOUND like some trollycar bellwether toiling in the heart of the mustache belt from the ruff n tumble year of nineteen aught nine???Ā
TT: ...
TT: He said unironically.Ā
GT: Give me some credit man and some to yourself as well. You are too modest about all this robotics noise.
^ can you see it under this lens? How playful it is? The tonal switch on Jakeās part? I love reading this as both of them being in-the-know to an extent, and dancing around it; pretending that Jake was saying such a thing unironically. Maybe Iām delusional, but what I see is beautiful.
What of Jakeās knowledge of Dirk, however?
I also find this exchange to be an interesting moment of lucid acknowledgement:
Well, for obvious starters, he has knowledge enough to create a āstartlingly close approximation to the realā Dirk in BGD. We know this.
GT: Just a big poof of smoke where it was standing. So i lived alone in the jungle ever since.Ā
TT: Huh. I've wondered about all that.
GT: Well you never asked!Ā
TT: Oh I know. I would have. But asking about your past would have just been inviting you to do the same. You know how it goes.Ā
GT: Indeed.
Indeed, he is aware of how both he and Dirk feel better off never discussing their own pasts.
GT: And his responder which i guess is really a part of his personality even if he doesnt like to say so...Ā
GT: It kind of lets on a lot more than dirk ever would. Its almost like its this weird clone of himself playing passive aggressive matchmaker between me and his real self.
He knows that Dirk, like him, obfuscates large parts of himself.
Jake liked that he could see Dirk. Jake liked that Dirk could see him, and like what he saw. He liked that he could affect Dirk and knock him off kilter a bitāthat he could best Dirkāor at the very least enjoys the prospect.Ā
In Dirk, Jake has a tangible effect on the world, an observed impact on someone who is deeply closed off. His image is working. He has some semblance of agency, not playing by the whims of loneliness, fear, bloodthirsty monsters, and objectifying figures.Ā
On the other side, Jake is so passive and non-confrontational that it makes Dirk believe that any direct pass he makes at him is too overbearing, presumptuous, and predatory. Jake, being a sort of in-the-moment feeler and thinker, tends to assume that people will just kinda catch on to whatever heās doing, whether it be self-isolating or being frustratingly vague.Ā
This isnāt true all the time, however. Jake vocally struggles with Dirkās cryptic nature, especially in the face of his splinters. SO, yeah. Weāre there. The lack of communication.
Practically every early pesterlog featuring Jake has him asking about how to reach Dirk. Heās aware of Dirkās cryptic conversational chess moves, and how they might extend into other actions he takes, eg Brobot or leaving AR on. This bit here is especially poignant, where Jake wonders outright whether Dirk is ātestingā him:
GT: I hope the far fetched scenario i have described has adequately communicated the severity of my robotic buttwhoopin!Ā
GT: Does this mean i passed the test or whatever the fuck.Ā
GT: Can your robot drop the bullshit and give me the uranium now or what?Ā
(Small aside thatās more about Jakeās character than anything: can you see the insane switch-flip in Jakeās attitude and typing style here, when his charm/image alone doesnāt get him what he wants?)
Jake likes to please and placate people, especially someone he admires like Dirk, and gets frustrated when they canāt just have a āsimpleā* (read: Jakeās definition of simple) relationship without the subtext, implications, and blind turns.Ā
In the midst of these frustrations, I believe, is fear. If Jake worries that everything is a test or otherwise game with Dirk, that very assumption could be proven by Dirkās clinginess when Jake doesnāt respond. He thinks Dirk is overly sensitive and likely feels like heās stepping on eggshells around him, worried that heās going to āfail the testā, whatever that means.
And on Dirkās end, as I've mentioned, he sees everything he's wanted relationship-wise in jake, but feels like he must starve himself as to not meddle and ruin everything. He thinks that Jake is not gay, that Jane has a better chance, but tortures himself over the possibility that Jake dangles in front of him.
Thus, a lot of tiptoeing around and frankly bizarre mental gymnastics ensue, where Dirk is interested in Jake, and may want to send those signals, but doesnāt want to ruin what he already has. For that reason, I feel that, at least in the alpha session stage of their relationship, Dirk could also be very hot and cold! I just think he was far more demanding than Jakeānot necessarily in a bad way, maybe in an over-reliant way, but ultimately in a quite incompatible way. Itās understandable. For someone who hates themselves so thoroughly, how could he not cling on to the one person who believes in him, who admires him, who gets it?Ā
TT: But you believe me, right?
GT: Oh yeah every word of it!
TT: Wow.Ā
GT: Why shouldnt i? You are my friend and i trust you.Ā
TT: I still just think it's impressive, is all. Even after all this time. You are pretty much a one of a kind dude.Ā
GT: Heh not really i just like believing stuff and believing in people.
But Jake really, really just misses his best friend. I write this like the two of them are Machiavellian puppetmastersābut, again, Iād like to emphasize that theyāre just teenage boys with communication and gender issues that feel beholden to a certain set of expectations. The MAJORITY of what I'm headcanoning here is subconscious, or otherwise mentally shoved in the "let's not address that" box. Jake just wants to talk to the real Dirk again, without the mind games and diversions!
A really striking moment in terms of their relationship is when Jake says that Dirk holds himself āaccountableā, unlike the rest of his splinters. He wants that humility, that even playing ground, even past his own personal ambitions and self-image; he just wants his friend back. Be Dirk and Jake again, and not whatever mess this has all turned into.
GT: Like har har i have the same basic personality as dirk but without any accountability or anything so let me just be kind of flippant and mess with this jake fellas head!
Ā And Dirk is both pulling off a lot of his aloof theatrics in order to protect Jake or his showing off a needy soft underbelly in order to quell his own self-doubt, ultimately because he wants to keep Jake around. He doesnāt want to scare him off or leave him unprepared in the face of danger.Ā
ā¦
So, of course, neither of them talk about it. Thatās the Alpha Kid patented thing.Ā
TT: You do realize he's coming for you.
TT: Dirk. In the real world. The man has his designs.
GT: Yes. I know.
TT: Wanna talk about it?
GT: With you? No!! Thats like...Ā
GT: Thats like talking to him about it which is like really jumping the gun i think.
They both have personal stakes on the line that could be threatened by trying to confide in the other in a genuine way. (Though I do have to give Dirk some credit here. He did express that he felt Jake was being inconsiderate.)
In conclusion, I would say a certain exchange from Peep Show season 3 episode 5 sums up their whole deal pretty well:Ā
āHave you told her you love her?ā
āAre you kidding? Thatās like firing first in a duel⦠if you miss, youāre fucked!ā
But remember... once, they were both kids growing up completely alone.
I like to think both leaned on the idea of one day meeting each other.
* Now. When I say Jakeās idea of a āsimpleā relationship, I am speaking of his specific perspective on romance. I also know that what Dirk is doing and all the ways Jake has been misled is genuinely not a simple relationship! All in all: Jake generally likes things straightforward, playing out as they ought to be, like a movie scene. He enjoys the freedom of being able to disappear on a whim, being unconstrained, because he doesnāt necessarily seek out romance of his own accord. I think heās definitely into Dirk, for the record (and have a sneaking suspicion based on the dreambubble log that he may have been the first to develop feelings, but thatās neither here nor there), but heās put himself into a predicament. By engaging with the relationship as seriously as Dirk is, heās opening himself up to deconstruction and commitment and staring consequences in the face. This isnāt easy to sidestep via plausible deniability anymore. In general, as a stupid, 16 year old boy, I think he just wants to have his cake and eat it too: he wants Dirk as a best friend and romantic partner, and all the admiration and affirmation he would receive from such an arrangement, but doesnāt want to get caught up in all the āunnecessaryā, sticky, complicated implications that come up in that kind of dynamic. He wants to still be able to brush things off as he can with, say, Jane or Roxy.
a rather unfortunate hobby of mine is recreating undertale/deltarune songs so that i can replace the melody with megalovania. i dont know why i do this
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So in cannon Jane can throw a fridge... she could probably carry a lanky ol' boy like Dirk easy yeah? (This is a roundabout way of saying "if you feel like drawing a sillyfun thing, maybe Jane sweeping dirk off his feet and giving him kisses? 'cause i mean. imagine the flustering of the boy. please and thank you your art brings me oodles of joy <3)