Im Very Confused

I can't find the actual poll anywhere so I am trying very hard to take this with a grain of salt but YouGov usually does good work and NewsGuard who commissioned the poll noted on their site that they were so surprised by these results that they asked YouGov to check again and yeah sure enough.

This is really disturbing.

they hijacked half-tracks, trucks, anything they could. but also tanks.

above: a captured STuG, and what appears to be an armored car.

I am tired of pretending that western leftists advocating "death to Israel" as people are in the notes, or politely skirting the issue by claiming they DONT want anyone dead, just for everyone to willingly leave the ONLY nation in the world where Jews have ever been safe from white supremacy and Arab supremacy. The only nation that guarantees Jewish safety.

I am tired of people who are so happily pro genocide that they dont even realize what they are yelling for accusing us of being the monsters.

I don't know how many people in the notes are Americans but as always it's rich coming from them. Talk about genocidal colonizers? After they voted in Trump twice absolutely no American has any leg to stand on. I suppose it isnt surprising that their stance is "get out of the country," since their tax dollars are the ones funding ICE.

You have no idea what you're talking about, your lack of understanding about every aspect of the situation from the historical context to the extremely clear double standard Americans employ when they accuse Israel of genocide and insist the ONLY way to make amends is to abandon their own right to a state (which yes, would be genocide — the destruction of a nation is one of the definitions and anyone without somewhere would be slaughtered the same way we have always been slaughtered and or forced to flee to avoid said slaughter for centuries. Ask yourself, what happened to all the Jew that used to live in the MENA? Where did they go? Lebanon, Yemen, Libya, Syria?

https://jewswerehere.com/

I don't want anyone to die. But there are only 16 million Jews left in the whole world. Do you understand how small that is? Nearly half of them live in Israel.

America and Canada, where I live, are both colonized nations built on the blood of Indigenous peoples. That is a gruesome, undisputed fact. We have barely even begun to scratch the surface of acknowledging the depth of the crimes that were committed. Yet no one disputes that we all have a right to live here. That the refugees from other countries that flee here seeking safety and a better life dont deserve that same safety and protection, even if they are settling on colonized land. And that anyone forcing them out is a monster.

When the British colonized these lands and killed everyone who was already here, they did it purely in pursuit of power. To expand their empire, to make something theirs and rule the way they wanted. And they could have had a peaceful existence here, it's not like there isnt enough land. But they didnt do that.

Israel was not founded out of a desire for power or conquest. There were people making their way to the area they were told was the holy land for years, sure, but even those folks were by and large motivated by pogroms, not simply a desire for a nice chance of scenery.

Without the Holocaust, Israel never would have been founded. We were forced out of our homes AGAIN and not allowed to return. You sickos keep telling people "go back to Poland" as if people didnt TRY. You think they didn't just want to go home? There was no home.

America and Canada didnt want the Holocaust refugees. No one did. You can look this all up, this is historical fact. Please dont you feel you need to take my word for any of it.

Regardless, the British dumped the refugees on Palestine. They also did not want them there and attacked the settlement camps.

Now, I have heard the justification that they werent attacking the camps because they were Jewish camps, it's because they were British. And if you think I give a flying fuck about why someone attacked camps full of Holocaust survivors, you can go fuck yourself. If you would like to justify that as reasonable, well, I guess I'm not surprised. It wouldn't be the first-time. I just cant understand it.

It didnt have to happen like that. None of this had to happen. The Holocaust, fucking America and Canada these fucking so called great nations...

Im not sorry that the Holocaust survivors in those camps refused to be killed. And im not sorry that they fought back, and formed a resistance. I wish more than anything it wasn't necessary, that the land could have been shared from the start and all of this avoided.

But no, Israel didnt start this. And you—that is all of you, every single non Jew and all your ancestors who continue to justify your hatred of us century after fucking century yes there is always some new perfectly good reason—have made it perfectly clear why we need at least one single nation in the entire world that cares about Jewish safety.

Because no one else gives a flying fuck.

Don't you dare say this is because of the holocaust because this was planned since decades before the holocaust:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

If people were really not able to go anywhere else after the holocaust then that means the europeans decided it was easier (read profitable) to just colonize another place instead of building a world where stolen land being the only safe place for a group of people would be unthinkable. Meaning zionists settlers were willing particpants of the powers that abused them.

As for the US and Canada, I agree it being stolen land, which is why many groups have been fighting to get it back since before long before Isnotreal even existed.

So I'm sorry if people are sick of your shit, I'm sorry if manifest destiny is treated with the contempt it should've had from the start and I'm sorry if you being victims of a genocide doesn't justify another.

Yeah? it’s almost like Europeans killing and oppressing Jews didn’t begin or end with the Shoah? and there had been Jews in diaspora who were trying to return to their homeland for centuries?

So wild how these people have such a narrow, anemic understanding (a stretch to even call it that) of Jewish History, yet want to lecture us on it. How literally being ethnically cleansed gets twisted around on Jews to call us “Colonizers”.

no?

they just want Israel to do it? the only Jewish state? Interesting

and when the Jews flee from the “dismantling” of Israel where should they go?

if the Jews flee to the Americas or Australia or Europe, would they welcome them?

or would they call them invaders?

would they concentrate them into camps for being “participants in genocide” ? even the children?

they are swallowing up Nazi propaganda, they’ll deny it, but they would make Hitler proud. Goebbels would shed a tear of how well they distribute antisemitic propaganda.

maybe they won’t deny it, and they’ll swim in the propaganda and tremble at the thought “I was lied to. The Nazis were right.” which is why they don’t take the deaths or violence against Jews seriously.

It scares them to agree with Hitler, so to feel about themselves they just point at Jews and say