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i thought the “this is the face that launched a thousand ships, although now it would maybe be five-hundred.” line was just an internet joke but apparently that's a line Menelaus actually says in Nolan's Odyssey??
Not only that the language itself sounds straight out of a marvel forcibly funny haha moment, but Menelaus? The Menelaus who all thoughout human history, from Homer, to Sappho, to Euripides, to Virgil, to Shakespeare, to Brooke, to Barth; from Classical vases to Medieval poetry to Reinessance art, has been known as the man whose sword fell from his hands at the sight of his wife after 10 years apart?
"What joy for me to hold my wife" Menelaus?
"He flung the sword away, and kissed her feet" Menelaus?
"I believe all. I understand nothing. I love you" Menelaus?
"I have no fault to find; my wife, he daughter of Zeus and Leda, is mine again, she whom her brothers on their snow-white steeds, whilst torches blazed, made my happy bride, but gods removed her from my home." Menelaus?
The Menelaus who was picked out of the suitors by Helen herself? The Menelaus who couldn't kill a begging Trojan so his brother had to do it for him? The Menelaus who rescued Odysseus and got out Patroclus' body? The Menelaus who volounteered to fight Paris one on one so everybody could go home? Who kept expressing his guilt about himself being the cause of war through every assembly he spoke at in the Iliad? Who after 10 years away at Troy, took his wife through a 7-year long journey at sea back home, where he reinstated her as the queen of Sparta? Who wept like a child in front of Telemachus recalling the war and his brother and all the friends he lost and the only consolation being his wife' gentle hand on his?
You want me to believe that man scarred Helen's face and called her only worth half the ships because of it?
I'm actually physically sick just thinking about it.
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This is harking back to an outdated and obsolete idea of science that was held up until the mid-20th century: the idea that the scientist/observer was separate from what they observed. They were uninvolved, only dispassionately watching and recording what happened as if they were not there. Scientific papers even used phrases like "It was observed" as if nobody was observing it, when someone very much was. It was Einstein who blew that apart with relativity, by recognizing that the observer is always part of the equation. What is seen is affected by who is seeing it and how. There is no "outside" for the observer to be. You are there, you are watching, you are part of the scene.
So the idea that there can never be involvement is bullshit.

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hearing anything about the nolan odyssey is so funny. it's like "they cut the extremely important and infamous nobody scene" "the cyclops is a giant puppet that they put in an actual historical cave + gave circe animatronics for her pig transformation instead of cgi" "they dumped plastic skeletons in an environmentally protected location they were not supposed to be in" "they recreated ancient greek instruments in order to have an accurate score" "all of odysseus's agency is basically gone" "anne hathaway actually learned how to weave ancient looms" "the women in this movie are treated like shit" "they actually buried actors alive to get those underworld shots" "did you see what the fuck zendaya was fucking wearing holy shit you can't DO THAT, MA'AM" "what do you mean there was a legitimate epic the musical reference" "NOT A SINGLE FUCKING GREEK WAS CAST IN THIS MOVIE"
like did nolan have two guys standing at his side at all times whispering ideas in his ear and one told the truth and the other told lies and they didnt tell him which was which until they wrapped production cause
They just don’t release the hounds like they used to
in my day someone just let the dogs out. never did know who.
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Oh my god my analysis skills feel more and more like I'm a god among men every time I see those stupid ass clickbait videos that are like "Nobody has solved this Murder Drones mystery yet!!!" and it's a VERY BASIC part of the show that's explained by the characters while progressing the story because it's necessary information.
Like holy shit, I don't know how you can even forget Khan is Uzi's dad, but holy fuck she's referred to as his daughter IN JUST ABOUT EVERY SINGLE EPISODE!!!!!! I think the only time it's not directly mentioned is episode fucking SIX. But it's mentioned at least a little in every other episode!
Where her dad is ISN'T A FUCKING MYSTERY HOLY SHIT!!
Hmm y'know I think Uzi's dad is actually the guy driving the bus at the start of episode 4
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Actually you'll find he's the guy who was excited to tell his loving family he won a card game at work before N killed him :(
nah her dad left to go get drone milk and v made him into a balloon animal
Trying to figure out what Drone milk would be since Battery Acid is out.
Gasoline maybe? Since that was the old go-to for drone alcohol lol
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ALSO ODYSSEUS LITERALLY JUST GOES TO TROY HE JUST GOESSSSSSSS they don’t even TRY to put baby telemachus in the paper shredder he just dips without a fuss. they change odysseus hanging the maids to penelope kicking melantho out for girlboss reasons and they TOOK AWAY MY BAG OF WIND #mybagofwind they also took away the dipshit that falls off of circe’s roof and dies. deeply shallow meaningless movie.

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Also while I'm talking about the Odyssey:
What a weird choice to make Clytemnestra Helen’s twin sister. Like I get it, Lupita is gorgeous and you don’t want to hire another actress.
But the fact that Helen is the most beautiful woman in the world is kinda...essential for the plot?
It is the whole reason why Paris chose Aphrodite in the golden apple contest, why he kidnapped her, why the whole trojan war started.
And you're telling me that there is another woman who looks exactly like her?? So Helen is NOT the most beautiful woman in the world ?
It makes no sense, and there was no good reason to not hire another beautiful black actress to play Clytemnestra.
so I just watched the odyssey movie....
and I made this within 5 minutes of returning. so I think that sums up my thoughts on it. (though im willing to rant more if ppl want it. cause I have COMPLAINTS)