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Introduction
Hello, I donāt know what Iām doing, but Iām here for the c!Dream angst. So, you know there is going to be plenty of good old prison arc and mature content though Iāll try to be mindful of profanity if not in dialogue. Obviously, Iām a c!Dream apologist. And not that you need to know but I am also autistic, as well as an artist and an alliteration addict. ;) I was previously a poet before I very recently started writing fanfiction so Iām a sucker for flowery writing and analysis, even though Iām actually a transportation engineer.
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Things You Will See Here: Angst, Insanity, DSMP Memes, Analysis, Fanfiction, Art, Lore, Videos, AUs, Essays, Ellipses⦠& some other things :)
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Works
Hell in a Box - Scrapped lore: c!Dream gets c!Sam to free him and then has a deep chat with c!Punz.
Misery Loves Another Idiot With A Jukebox Where His Soul Should Be (short hand: misery loves an idiot) - c!Quackity gets creative in his daily visits with c!Dream.
Dreamcatcher - c!Punz gets caught in a nightmare c!Dream has.
[sequel] Dreamweaver - c!Dream shows c!Punz his past through a dream.
Good Cop āBadā Cop - c!Bad is a prison guard who takes pity on a mistreated c!Dream.
If The Crown Fits, Wear It - c!Techno upgrades c!Dreamās look with a crown.
Crowās Nest - c!Dream haunts c!Technoās house (co-authored with @error-dream-was-found).
[sequel] Musical Chairs - Scrapped lore following the events of Crows Nest + c!Punz, c!Techno, c!Dream and a chair... need I say more?
B is for Betrayal - c!Punz helps c!Dream through a medical emergency.
A Gravel Mistake - c!Quackity acts sus so c!Foolish visits the prison
Robbing a Vault Thatās A Prison - c!Techno kidnaps rescues c!Dream from prison again
Together Is Always Better - c!Quackity tortures c!Dream while c!Technoās there
Technoblade (Never) Dies - What if Phil activates the pearl a minute too late and c!Techno dies
Pink Goes Good With Green - c!Niki helps c!Dream heal after prison break
Playlists
Misery Loves Another Idiot With A Jukebox Where His Soul Should Be - chapter title songs
Some Snakes Just Bite - c!Dream on his villain arc
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I think one of the things that makes prison podcast my favorite stream is how itās both hilarious and some of the most unmasked moments we have of c!Dream. Like c!Techno manages to be both funny but also the most insightful and sympathetic. Sure, we can gauge c!Dreamās mental stability from the other prison streams and we can observe the poor treatment and we see characterās like c!Bad show sympathy after. But thereās something about how c!Techno exposes things that is just so satisfying, almost as if validating both c!Dreamās feelings and the concern we the audience might have already for him.
Like sure I can see how messed up it is for c!Sapnap to visit prison only for him to threaten c!Dream, but for c!Techno to confirm it, even if more humorously, just feels so good.
[38:14] Techno: āYou gotta raise your standards, man. You gotta raise your standards. Youāre just getting treated like dirt out here, man. That is just sad.ā
Or him talking about the prison.
[clip] Techno: āI donāt know, what kind of prison is this? They donāt have psychologists? Iām starting to think that they donāt care about our human rights all that much⦠youāyou were saying that you were getting tortured? Wh-whoās been torturing you?ā
Like somehow by just merely stating the obvious and asking the questions we already know the answers to, heās calling out all the other characterās and even in some cases audienceās denial and absurdity about the prison arc. Validating the perception that yeah this is messed up thank you for noticing. Which is just so satisfying, and he does that all while also making us laugh. :)
Was thinking again about how engineering ethics relates to c!Dreamās assumptions about c!Sam being fair and just as a warden (something I talked about [here] and made a fun graphic for [here]) specifically the aspect of brides. See, Iāve always found it interesting how c!Dream highlights c!Sam accepting financial compensation from Quackity for allowing the torture.
[19:08] Dream: āWow, you left out locking me in prison for a year and letting me be tortured day after day by someone for financial benefit.ā
But it does actually make a lot of sense, because once again that is something specifically mentioned in the NSPE Code of Ethics. In multiple sections it talks about how an engineer shall not accept extra or outside compensation, with one example being, āEngineers shall not solicit or accept financial or other valuable consideration, directly or indirectly, from outside agents in connection with the work for which they are responsible.ā [5a] Even as a government worker you cannot accept things from outside companies that could be seen as bribery. So of course c!Dream would expect c!Sam to uphold that same honorable standard, not just because of his belief in c!Sam as a person, but perhaps also because of c!Samās role as the warden of the server and engineer. The expectation bar for ethical behavior was set higher, which made it all the more devastating when like everyone else c!Sam was corrupted by his position of powerā¦
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the downside of reading ao3 fics to fall asleep is that I get too drowsy by the end to leave a coherent comment and it makes me feel bad because I want to share some love and show my appreciation but like I canāt keep my eyes open⦠so yeah, sorry to all the fics I havenāt left a comment on because I fell asleep <3 <3
I stand by the fact that, especially when it comes to a series, if the ending of a character can happen and/or has already happened at any other point in the story, then it is not a satisfying or good ending. The finale of a story and by extension a character should be a point at which it can only happen right then because of all the previous events that lead up to it. If not, it either undoes whatever story and character growth happened or simply highlights how there was non at all and that just makes everything that happened meaningless.
So of course it can vary with genre, but to me a good ending isnāt about whether itās always happy, but whether it completes the story in a satisfying way, where the theme and change that happened come to a close. This is a difference between a character like Tony Stark and Dean Winchester, who both end on the line of āyou can rest now.ā
While *spoiler alert* they both tragically die in the end, I think the tragic ending is satisfying for Tony and not for Dean.
See, Dean Winchester had always been a suicidal character with little value of his own life. So not only could the finale for him happen on episode one, but we actually have already seen his death/ near death on multiple occasions (S1E12, S3E16, S7E23, S11E17ā¦etc). Which begs the question - why should I bother watching 15 seasons if in the end nothing changes and it didnāt matter. Furthermore, itās a bad ending because part of Deanās story arc and the story at large has been the theme of āalways keep fighting,ā but Dean also has been learning how to value himself and learn how to live a fulfilling life, to be more than Samās guardian and āa good soldier and nothing else, Daddyās blunt little instrumentā [S3E10]. So, for him to die and Sam to live a happy life is a bad ending because Sam has chosen to move on and live life multiple time, I mean thatās where the story begins.
On the other hand, Tony Stark is a character who even self defines as āliving to pleasureā himself. The bad guys in his solo movies are all more or less self created and out for revenge. As Captain American says in Avengers, āI've seen the footage. The only thing you really fight for is yourself. You're not the guy to make the sacrifice play, to lay down on a wire and let the other guy crawl over you. [ā¦] You know, you may not be a threat, but you better stop pretending to be a hero.ā True, he does technically sacrifice himself on other occasions, but one could argue he both did it when he didnāt know for certain if heād die and obviously ultimately didnāt die, unlike in Endgame where he knows itāll be fatal. Also, his near death in The Avengers serves as a nice foreshadowing and parallel to the end so that also makes it satisfying. See, sacrifice isnāt Tonyās default characteristic, he had to grow to become the hero willing to lay down his life, but on the other hand Deanās default has always been a willingness to lay down his life so throughout the story he was learning to value his life more. So for him to do so in the finale was a terrible ending because it didnāt highlight his character growth, plus it also portrays the message that death is a happy ending for the suicidal character, which Iād say is certainly harmful for the audience, but also goes against the very theme of āAlways Keep Fighting.ā
So, I stand by the fact that in all the series Iāve watched, Supernatural has the worst ending because the finale undid the growth of the characters and the very theme of the story, and the same events could have happened (did happen) in other parts of the story including the very beginning. And Iāve seen Game of Thrones, but to me while that ending was poorly done and undesirable, it does at least align with the storyline and could not have happened at any other point in the story. Also, to me the plot seemed largely structured on expectation subversion, so a surprisingly devastating ending is tragic, yes, but not unfitting. The story is riddled with tragic endings and unsatisfying results with the goal of surprising the audience, part of what makes it so gripping, so while as frustrating and sad the ending is, it isnāt exactly unfitting for the story structure and theme, nor does it send as harmful of a message to the audience as Supernatural a 15 season show does.
thinking back to how offended people were at the discduo finale conversation, acting like it was some sort of ārushed redemptionā or āmc suddenly forgiving the villain for everything,ā when itās really just an extremely common type of story ending. itās not redemption or forgiveness, itās stopping the villain through empathy instead of violence. the hero saying āhey. worldās ending. youāve done a lot of bad things. but i see you, and you donāt have to be the bad guy.ā like. they did this shit in star wars. they did this shit in the lego movie !! š
I think itās very telling that when Dream was part of accidentally killing Punzās bee, he immediately left an apology and 29 diamonds. [2:31:14]
But when Tommy accidentally killed Tubboās bee, he burned down his house. [post] [2:31:14]
[yes, Purpled and Punz are the firefighters there]
Mind you, a house that Dream helped rebuild and left a gift with [2:07:49] [post]
Though of course itās only fair to mention that Tommy (off screen) did later leave an apology and 27 diamonds [1:26], however it should also be noted that Tubbo originally asked for 20 diamonds as reparations for Tommy stealing from him and killing his bee, to which Tommy then burned down his house instead.
So, I think the point still stands. I mean talk about a difference in reactions⦠And to me, itās the stark contrast in the little things like this in the beginning that tell me a lot about a character and their default behavior and motivations. Like clearly one of these is a far more wholesome reaction than the other, so it shouldnāt be a surprise that Iād root for Dream over Tommy, and yet itās commonly seen as unreasonable, even though this is the comparison. Like remind me again how, even before the first nation rose, Dream was labeled the villain and Tommy the heroā¦
I just canāt get over how wholesome Punz is. Like after they accidentally killed his bee, he finds out they are stuck in the nether and offers to help.
Then he straight up dives into the lava to recover the pickaxe Dream accidentally dropped. [2:51:51]
He also rescues Dream with fire res after a failed clutch
[2:54:02] Dream: āOh, he has extra fire res. Punz is such a nice guy, George. Did you know?ā
And after Sapnap and George fight and his helmet breaks, Punz gives George a netherite ingot to make a new one. :) [3:04:55]
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c!Alyssa finds c!Dreamās first, walking into the community house and stunned by how much its changed. On one hand, it looks more architecturally appealing, but where is the aquarium? Where are the beds and chests and people?
c!Dream is there though, returning to the place where it all began. He doesnāt tell her how he had a part in blowing it up, how could he? He wasnāt gonna tell her much about him at all, worried about risking her safety by seeing her with him. But she is also under geared compared to everyone else and the vision of her dying over and over in the beginning haunts him. He canāt just leave her alone. Even if sheās in more danger by his side.
Itās selfish really because he honestly does just want company. Itās been so long since someone besides his few allies looked at him without venomous hatred and fear. Itās been so long since someone besides his few allies didnāt greet him with a sword to his throat. Itās been so long since heās been treated like just a person, just c!Dream. Not a prisoner, not a body to be harmed, not a powerful book, not a necromancer, not a villain, not a monster, not a victim, not broken.
More than anything he didnāt want to change that. Didnāt want to lose that. Lose the way she looked at him and talked to him so simply. Without pity, without greed, without hostility. But when she noticed the limp in his step, true, he couldāve lied, but he was so tired of lying (so tired in general - the consequence of avoiding nightmare filled sleep), so he reluctantly told her about prison, and c!Quackity, and c!Sam, and he expected the reaction he always receives - a brief shock and disbelief easily brushed aside. Like it didnāt matter, like his pain is irrelevant. Like his suffering means nothing, isnāt notable. Like he has no right to be upset, to be hurt, or want escape from the misery. Because it was deserved. There was a reason. So how he feels is unreasonable, irrelevant, inconsequential.
Remarkably, she doesnāt react that way. Instead her face fills with horror, then anger, then sadness, then sympathy. And when her eyes finally land back on his, theyāre glossy and she asks for a hug and when he nods she holds him tight, saying, āIām sorry. I shouldnāt have left⦠I didnātāI really didnāt think it would get this bad⦠I didnāt thinkāI couldnāt even in my wildest dreams have imagined this.ā
Itās warm and soft and itās the first time c!Dream dares to believe there arenāt strings attached. She isnāt getting paid, she isnāt bound by a favor, she isnāt getting shared revenge, she isnāt getting special knowledge or information, he didnāt even really tell her about the book. She has no reason to use him and something about that makes him feel just the littlest bit more human againā¦
Waitā¦ā¦.. it just occurred to me. Is Spirit the only pet c!Dream ever named?
He didnāt name his parrot, or his dogs, or the dog in prison or technically the cat in prison.
Am I forgetting something or is Spirit the only one? And if so, damn the fact that the only pet he named was killed. I mean no wonder heād never name another animal and form an attachment to the remains of Spirit specifically (even if it wasnāt even the actual leather)ā¦
Joined a modded Minecraft server and was mining last night when I accidentally stumbled across a stronghold, which mind you is much bigger than a normal one, so naturally I spent the rest of the night looting it. And then when I went to sleep I had a dream that I was with a group of people (kinda like a field trip? Or escape room? Or just trapped?) and we were challenged to loot this house and do a series of tasks including to a create a masterpiece in order to get out. For some reason, c!Dream was there and he was very good at finding all the chests, even the secret ones, and solving the puzzles and such. Like really putting in the work for the team, who originally mistrusted and disliked him. And then he even started working on the artwork while waiting for the rest of the group to catch up. So by the time they all got to the point of āokay guys what are we gonna paintā c!Dream had already finished this gorgeous painting of Spirit. Like it had texture and shading and everything despite the art mod being simple, providing only one setting and a handful of colors.
The group was kinda both annoyed about it but also impressed. They hesitantly decide not to make a new one as a group and use c!Dreamās. The pretentious, self designated leader of the group takes it upon herself to start trying to make up stuff about it when presenting it in front of the whole group and the person judging whether they can leave (teacher? troll? attendant?), but Dream keeps shyly cutting her off in the crowd and answering with the real fact. āThis is a grey horse that-ā ā āa white horse.ā After this happens a few times the girl finally turns around frustrated, and makes direct eye contact with him as she keeps trying to speak over him āIts name is Pri-ā ā āSpirit.ā āAnd it is happy frolicking-ā ā āIts dead.ā And then she notices Dreamās glassy eyes and realizes he is not just being rude or difficult in correcting her, but that he actually drew something real āIts greatest desire is to prance-ā ā āto beā¦ā And she then prompts him instead, āWhat did the horse want, Dream?ā ā āwhat we all want. To live and to be loved and cared for and cherishedā¦ā
per @blossomwareās suggestion I think we should come up with a duo name for c!dream and c!alyssa. So if you have any suggestions for the poll, let me know. So far, I got mask duo because they both wear masks or woof duo since she pronounces it as woof too [clip] :)
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I donāt know if anyone else has come up with this au, but Iāve been thinking about c!Alyssa returning to the server post-prison arc and being shocked by the turn of events and mayhem that has happened. Shocked to find out that c!Dream was imprisoned as the āvillainā of the story and the people who were sexist and rude to her, making her want to leave in the first place, are the āheroesā. Shocked to find more women, who donāt get pushed around, ignored or murdered over and over by the other members. Shocked to find the closest group of friends sheās ever met: c!George, c!Sapnap and c!Dream split up. Shocked to learn about the abuse c!Sam subjected c!Dream to in prison. What could have possibly happened in a year to turn her friends, who once fished, and farmed, and laughed together, against each other?ā¦
Ya know, I think my love for c!Dream comes not out of how good or bad the things he did are, but how I find him more compelling. Sure, one could say that a character like c!Tommy is a better person because he didnāt do human experiments or decimate a whole nation, but it doesnāt matter, and not because I condone it, but because I find it hard to respect a character so egotistical and imprudent. See, itās not about the morality or misdeeds of a fictional character, but about how much I respect and value their reasonings, motivations, thought process, and character arc. So yeah, c!Dream may have committed atrocities, but I still love him and not just because of the captivating mistreatment he faced, or how well I can connect to his story and his characteristics, or how I simply enjoy watching him, but because I personally find him to be a more compelling.
And if that makes me a āc!Dream apologist,ā then so be it. But letās be clear, I aināt apologizing for what c!Dream did and I aināt apologizing for liking him. I think perhaps the āapologistā term comes from having sympathy for a character, but I think itās important to know those are not synonymous. Sure, people say āIām sorry that happenedā when being sympathetic, but there is no actual apology meant there, itās just meant to show commiseration, compassion and empathy for the suffering of others. So, then yeah I guess I am a c!Dream apologist and c!Dream sympathizer because Iām just a fan who commiserates with c!Dream.