hey do you guys remember when homophobes were like "umm homophobia doesn't exist i'm not AFRAID of gay people!!" and we had to explain that no that's not how latin roots work or what the word is used for. remember how annoying that was
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hey do you guys remember when homophobes were like "umm homophobia doesn't exist i'm not AFRAID of gay people!!" and we had to explain that no that's not how latin roots work or what the word is used for. remember how annoying that was

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of course not all men is a stupid sentiment but i think taking that out on trans men is not the way to fix it
i think it would be helpful if we as a community better understood the difference between heterosexual and Straight
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👍i am doing my best to become more feminist + more educated in feminism every day thank you nonny
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ok sometimes i forget this blog is discourse not just transphobia
pluto is already a planet dumbass it's literally in the name of the new category it's been put into
stop letting adjustment of terms you learned in second grade make you actively upset
the concept of trans women being hypervisible is LAUGHABLE. like seriously i rarely see anything positive when it comes to trans women. i mean legitimately on tiktok when i ever dare to speak up for my sisters, i get 100 million responses about either trans men or straight up transmisogyny . TERFS run RAMPANT in feminist spaces. just telling people to include trans women in their spaces is CONTROVERSIAL.
tmes talk about “go outside and interact with queer people irl!” as if suddenly the same hateful transmisogynistic fucks on tiktok and tumblr aren’t always overcrowding trans and feminist spaces. LIKE FUCK MAN. i dont like sharing my tiktok but ill fucking dox myself at this point just to prove to you dumb fucks that there is no good PR for trans women. they are a subjects of constant debate. meanwhile trans men are always ALWAYS included in feminism.
ok 3 things
hypervisibility is by definition Bad it's not a privilege from what i've heard it sucks ass (lots of anti-trans legislation is focused on trans women only, and transmisogynistic fearmongering is used to deny all trans people rights)
trans men are *Not* always always included in feminism because of something I call "transphobia" and "hyperinvisibility" (for example, when was the last time you heard gender-neutral language used by major abortion rights activists?)
what part of this post is about mras? why did you feel the need to tag that ?
https://www.hrc.org/resources/the-wage-gap-among-lgbtq-workers-in-the-united-states
is this one right? It looks like the screenshots I see everywhere
it may very well be i've gotta check tomorrow on my laptop because on mobile for some reason (through no fault of your own) the link sends me to an incredibly broken web page asking for cookie permissions and a donation at the same time
That study also said that Asian and Pacific Islanders don’t experience any wage disparity and lumped 2spirit people with nonbinary people
i'm starting to think there may be some major data collection and reporting problems with that study ngl lol
i feel the need to reiterate this
the study that concluded trans women on average make less than trans men only took into account full-time jobs, meaning it ignored data from trans people in part time jobs. trans men are more than *twice* as likely as trans women to have part-time jobs, which basically by definition pay less than full-time jobs. from this study (sample size 27,000+ usamerican transgender people) which does include part-time jobs, trans men [in the united states on average] make about 30% less than trans women, which is a PRETTY BIG NUMBER to fuck up on a reporting decision don'tcha think

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awww the like button turns into a rainbow when you press it! that's so cute...hey staff what's with all the trans women you keep nuking?
i think we should be ridiculing them more for this. you don't get to try and go all "queer website" when your staff likes to go on nuking sprees targeting the trans fem users
would be remiss not to mention that the rainbow notably straight up just removed the trans flag colors from it. like they’re gone. it’s the progress flag minus the trans flag colors.
that’s not the whole flag, now is it
hey staff what the fuck
staff what exactly about this post is Mature Content
just to be clear i run this blog to try to get a new and exciting form of brain damage to cancel out my current brain damage
got terrible take blasted again sorry chat
transandrophobia is not the intersection of transphobia and androphobia, because anti-maleness as a societal force does not exist (androphobia, as an individual's fear of men, does exist as an actual phobia, and anti-masculinity is a fairly powerful societal force against anyone who is viewed as a woman [including trans women being held to higher standards femininity-wise]). it's "transandro" (as in transmasculine) + "phobia" (as in hatred of/discrimination against, as in homophobia).
so putting this all together, "transandrophobia truthers" are not fucking idiots who think that:
heterosexual perisex whatever the fuck white men are oppressed by society for those features, and because of that people transitioning into that role are experiencing all of the oppression experienced by white heterosexual perisex whatever the fuck men AND transphobia, which is of course comparable to transmisogyny
"transandrophobia truthers" believe that:
transmasculine people experience different oppression from cis men and cis women and transfeminine people because of our transmasculinity and having a word for that would probably be helpful for making that oppression Less Bad and overall making life better for transmasculine people
anyway that's why i'm blocking people for calling trans men transandrobros
Just outright mask off lmao.
infinitely fascinated by some people's ability to fall for incredibly easy to spot psyops (you) (you're falling for a psyop) (that's attempting to split the trans community) (why are you listening to someone who calls trans men "tif"s about trans men) (genuinely undead transfeminist what are you doing here ma'am)
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you are an idiot. pokeballvictim said "i hate men" not "i hate trans men"
also androphobia is not a system of opression, men are not discriminated against on the basis of being men.
point 1. I don't know who pokeballvictim is i've searched my blog i don't know which post you're referring to, you can send me a follow-up if you're still mad about that
point 2. the purpose of the word "transandrophobia" isn't "trans men experience a specific intersection of being oppressed for being trans and being oppressed for being men" it's "transmascs experience a specific form of oppression because of our transmasculine status which is different from that of cis men, cis women, and trans women, and other trans people." This includes misogyny and transphobia distinct from transmisogyny, especially apparent in the "irreversible damage" rhetoric concerned not with transmasculine personhood and choice and health but with our fertility and femininity, among other examples. you are correct though "androphobia" is not a societal force of oppression for all men no matter what (though it is an actual phobia). unfortuately trans men *are* discriminated against on the basis of our transmasculine status because our manhood and masculinity cannot be teased and tweaked and separated from our transgenderness, in other words it's not "if we weren't trans men we'd be cis men" it's "if we weren't trans men we'd be cis women"
I feel like a lot of transmisogyny vs transandrophobia debates could be settled by simply acknowledging the fact that:
A lot of transphobia specifically targeted at trans women and/or transfemme people, does so by exposing their transness and making them hyper-visible
A lot of transphobia specifically targeted at trans men and/or transmasculine people, does so by erasing their transness and making them invisible.
A lot of exorsexism and intersexism works on the same erasing and making invisible principles, though much like with binary trans people there can be overlap.
This doesn't mean anyone is more or less oppressed then the other, it simply just means the specific way we are oppressed is different. Which was the point in coining different terms outside of transphobia to describe our experiences.