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Feel free to ignore my ramblings but I just want to talk about Tim Drake and I canât do it to my sister without her rolling her eyes at me (am I supposed to be studying for a 5 hour exam in a few days so that I can finally be a certified high school English teacher? yes. but Tim Drake) anyway, my nonsense ramble is very long so itâs going under the cut
so Iâm planning a series of very angst fics all centered on our boy
and Iâm an inherent nerd, like academically, so Iâve been doing research
research
Iâve been reading some of the most angst-filled Tim-centric comic arcs in an attempt to get a better gauge of how, canonically (*wheezes*), Tim handles stress and isolation and other bad things
SooooâŚ.I hopped on the Tim Drake Angst train HARD last night, and havenât gotten off yet. I had to write this out now before I could even think about working on my NaNo WIP, soâŚenjoy
Itâs definitely heavily inspired by the above post, hence itâs location here. Any dialogue you recognize is 100% from the Red Robin comics.
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Or you can read it here. Enjoy! Iâm not sure if Iâll continue it or not, but let me know if you enjoy it!
Timothy Jackson Drake-Wayne was smart. He knew he was smart. It had taken years for him to realize that the racing thoughts and quick, and often correct, conclusions were not entirely normal. One of the most consistent issues he had dealt with growing up (not that he was an adult by any means, and thus not done growing up, but he was now officially an emancipated minor, and that had to mean something) was people doubting him and his intelligence solely due to his age and/or physical stature.Â
Bruce Wayne was one of the few people who didnât doubt or question him, not really. Standing on a rooftop and staring at Dick Grayson in the Bat-suit brought back familiar feelings, ones he hadnât had while looking at a Batman for a long time. Feelings of desperation, hope, a little bit of trust, and just the tiniest bit of awe. So when Dick said âOf courseâ to Timâs âBatman, trust me,â a small part of Timâs soul flew out of the pit it had been stuck in for months now.
His mind continued racing even as he swung off the rooftop, knowing that now was not the time to second-guess anything or anyone, even himself.
Tim wished he could accurately describe the way he felt staring at the tall man in the green cloak. Sure, there was the combined heat of anger and triumph and that pesky desperation again, settling low in his chest, but there was also the newer-and-yet-resigned bile in his throat. He shoved down any and all thoughts and images that tried to rise to the surface at the sight of the sharp shoulders and pointed collar, mostly successful. Now was not the time to let previousâŚcompromises distract him. This moment was about to make it all worth it. At least, Tim hoped so.
The manâs frustration made Tim want to grin, but that was something Robin would do, not Red Robin. So he restrained himself and moved forward, quietly, quickly.Â
Okay friends, here is part two! Should I make a separate post for this? Probably. Will I? Not today
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Quick refreshâchapter 1 is a blow by blow with heavy canon referencing on Timâs fight with Raâs al Ghul in Red Robin 12, chapter 2 goes off script after he wakes up because this fic is Tim dealing with some of those pesky things called people and consequences.
Timâs head was whirling, to put it mildly. Not in the way a concussion might make him dizzy, though that was not fully out of the realm of possibility at the moment.
âIâm engaged?â He asked, speaking over Damianâs outraged complaining about people (Kon? Bart? Cassie?) upstairs.
Dick grinned, but even with their emotionalânot physicalâdistance, Tim could see the worry in his normally expressive blue eyes.
âWe can talk about it upstairs. Apparently, someone let Tam Fox in on the family secret. Once we finally got rid of Vale, we let her in with your Titans. She wonât talk to anyone else except you, though.â
Tim was positive that the room was spinning now. Before he could reply, however, a warm and firm hand gently cupped his less-injured shoulder.
âI quite agree that this conversation should continue upstairs. However, Master Timothy needs to be examined further now that he is conscious. You three should change and wash up, and begin whatever damage control needs to be done in my kitchen. Master Dick,â Alfred began addressing him, turning him so that Tim had no choice but to focus on the older man, âhas quite a lot of experience with wrangling young super heroes in our home.â
Dick groaned and Tim couldnât help the smile on his face.
Things werenât perfect, far from it, but they would be better. He just knew it.
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With a bite in his mouth, Tim piped up again.
âSay what you will about everything else the League is responsible for, they donât skimp out on medical work. I got the vaccinations I was supposed to, on time, and I was on antibiotics while at the Cradle. I need to get a work up from Leslie to make sure I donât develop post-splenectomy syndrome, which is really just a fancy way to say blood issues. Iâm not concerned, itâs definitely more of a precaution though.â
âIâm less worried about their medical skills and more worried about the fact that you needed use of them anyway. Why didnât you come home? Call somebody?â
Tim made a point to avoid Dickâs eyes, staring into his soup.
âAh, that might have been my fault?â Tam spoke with some hesitancy.
âWhy is that?â Cassie asked, voice less cold but no less sharp.
âShe was more or less a hostage, remember? And it wasnât exactly like I had planned on needing their surgeonâs skills any time ever.â Tim grumbled around a spoonful of beef.
âWhat was she even doing in Iraq in the first place?â Damian asked, tone an affected indifference.
âShe was there,â Tam began, crossing her arms as she moved closer to the table, âbecause the one person my father could trust to help take care of Wayne Enterprises was missing, right after his dad died. My dad needed someone who could move discreetly to find Timothy Drake, under whatever name he was using, and bring him back to Gotham.â
Should I be making separate posts? Probably. But I'm inherently energy efficent (read: lazy) and this just makes more sense to me.
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Chapter 4: The Harder Part: Sitting Up
Waking up was normally an unpleasant experience for Tim. This time seemed to be a rare exception. It could be the lack of alarms or explosions or voices that created such a unique experience, or the comfort of a home. Either way, waking up wasnâtâŚbad, for the first time in a long time, for one Tim Drake-Wayne.
He must have slept very deeply because it took him a second to recognize that he was in his old room in Wayne manor. Tim sat up, slowly, and rubbed one of his eyes with a weak hand.
âMorning, handsome,â a deep voice said from his right. Tim kept rubbing his eye while turning to face none other than Jason Todd.
âHey,â he said, yawning halfway through getting the word out.
âHandsome? He barely counts as cute right now,â a voice that could only be Steph complained from his other side.
âI donât know. Sleepy-teenage boy at least ranks adorable.â
With eyes still blinking sleep away, he turned to face Stephanie Brown and the one and only Barbara Gordon. He just stared at them, brain not fully online yet.
âOh man, heâs barely even conscious.â
âWhatâs, ah,â he yawned again, âwhatâs up, guys?â
Jason snorted.
âWhatâs up? My dude, you had a sick fight with the Demonâs Head himself and took a little spill out a window and are claiming not just that B-manâs alive but you have evidence to back it up. Thatâs whatâs up.â
âYouâre spending too much time with Roy,â Dick complained from the doorway, tray in hard.
Tim ignored Barbaraâs ensuing comment and Jasonâs response as he slowly turned his head to face the eldest and his eyes found the steaming coffee mug at the same time the scent hit his nose. It had been months since he had last had some of Alfredâs carefully roasted and brewed coffee beans.
He made a grabbing motion with his hands and Dick laughed, bringing the entire tray over to balance it on his lap.
âFood first, wonder boy,â Steph said before swiping the coffee and stealing a sip.
Tim glared at her but happily dug into the berry-laden oatmeal in front of him.
âWhatâs everyone doing here?â He asked.
Or, at least, thatâs what he meant to do. But a mouth full of hot oatmeal turned the words into indecipherable garbling. Well, mostly indecipherable.
âBed rest means resting, preferably in bed, so weâre going to do the interrogating right here,â Jason proclaimed with far too much glee. The things that brought Jason glee normally brought Tim some form of discomfort. Then the words Jason had said registered.
Instantly any peace and sleepiness that Tim had been basking in was gone. he tried not to show it, but he knew there must have been some muscular tensing he couldnât hide completely.
âWeâll let you eat first,â Dick was quick to reassure him, âKon wouldnât be letting us do this if we didnât, but we do really need to talk as a team and as a family.â
Tim chewed carefully around the current mouthful of oatmeal and berries. He swallowed before talking again.
âSo then whereâs Damian? And Alfred?â
Steph shifted in her seat, sharing a quick glance with Dick.
âDamian has school,â Dick explained, voice hesitant for some reason, âand Alfred is dropping him off. Heâll be joining us once heâs done, though.â
âShouldnât we wait for both of them?â Tim asked. He wasnât trying to stall, not really. Well, okay, that was a lieâhe would give anything to not have any of the people currently in his bedroom thereâbut more than that, he didnât want to have to navigate the minefield that was his mind since Bruceâs disappearance in real time in front of three detectives.
âWe thought of that, Timbers, and we knew you would be oh-so-concerned, so we brought this.â
Jason through a small hand-held recorder onto the bed next to Timâs legs. He groaned internally.
âI reserve the right to only tell you what would be required for a mission report,â he stipulated quickly.
Before Stephanie or Jason could protest, Dick nodded.
âThatâs fine.â
Tim started to relax a little bit, but then Dick was grinning.
âWeâll save that interrogation for movie night.â
Steph fist-bumped the air while Jason hissed out a âhell yeahâ that had Tim actually groaning out loud. Barbara only laughed at that.
It was no secret that they all had issues, of varying flavors and quantities, but for all of those spicy character traits, there was a standing rule that non-case related gossip and any subsequent blackmailing that it entailed was free game at family movie nights. He was pretty sure that that special Bat-tradition started when Dick and Jason decided to team up against Bruce for the first time.
âOkay, but this can be an uninterrupted mission report style interrogation?â He asked to clarify.
All four people nodded.
âOkay, so not long after Bruce was thought to have died,â Tim started, raising an eyebrow at Jasonâs dash to turn the recorder on, âDick made Damian Robin. It was not a smooth transition of costumes, and in the ensuing emotional outburst, I discovered the first clue, the first hint of a clue, that Bruce was not dead but instead sent back in time. Prior to that moment, I had only had a hunch. So I took on the Red Robin name and costume, and left Gotham to find more concrete evidence.
âI followed the smallest hints across cities in Europe. I handled some cases, cases whose completed reports should already be in the system. I noticed around my fourth city that I was being tailed. While I was in Paris, the trio of shadows who had been following me made an attempt against Tim Wayne. I make the distinction because I was in a hotel room, booked under an alias, not in uniform when they fired a rocket at me.â
âWhat alias was it?â Barbara asked, voice and face all business as she whipped out her phone.
Tim shook his head.
âIâve had to burn it already, but Alvin Draper. Iâll be explaining why soon.â
âSo, a rocket gets shot at you,â Jason prompted, tone again too gleeful for the situation.
âNot exactly. I had seen light glint off the scope so by the time the hotel room blew up, I was en route to the roof and my costume. I confronted the assassins,â
âAssassins?!â
He ignored Stephâs interruption.
âAt first I thought that they might have been sent by Shiva, but not long into the fight they pulled out with a flash bang, leaving behind a communications device. Raâs al Ghul was on the other side.â
Nobody tried to interrupt him here, but it was clearly a close battle with their self-control as he noted clenched fists and open mouths.
âI moved on to Berlin. There, I needed to break into a museum to find my next piece of evidence. Raâs sent the same three assassins to assist me, but also orchestrated a local metahuman by the name of The Wild Huntsman to complicate things. Alvin Draper then became an art thief known to international authorities, which put me in the position Raâs wanted. I next flew to Iraq but had moved too quickly as the local authorities tried there to arrest me. The assassins, however, had planned for this and already prepared identification to help me through security as Tim Drake.â
Tim tried to swallow but found his throat was dry. Thatâs when he remembered that Dick had brought him coffee. He turned to Stephanie and reached out. She didnât stop him from taking the mug, though the fact that it was only half-full probably contributed to that. After taking a few sips of the now lukewarm beverage he continued.
âWe traveled into the Iraqi desert which is where I found my first physical and indisputable piece of evidence that Bruce is indeed stuck in the time stream and not dead. Well, the first in that it was the oldest. After I had finished examining the evidence, we were ambushed by someone who called himself The Widower. A member of the Council of Spiders. We did not know it at the time, but this Council of Spiders was a rival group of assassins hunting members of the League for sport, some kind of game. Two of the three assassins traveling with me were assassinated pretty much instantly, while the third, a Prudence Wood, had her throat cut. I was not on his list but got stabbed anyway. Pru and I both blacked out, and we were incapable of accessing our comms. I was able to get us back into the city, somehow, wasnât really sure then and Iâm still not sure now how I did it. We broke into the Wayne suite, just moments before Tamara Fox walked in, which happened just moments before the backup team of assassins that Raâs had called in when we didnât respond showed up.â
âThatâs what Tam was doing in Iraq?â Barbara interrupted.
Tim looked at Barbara in surprise.
âYou were tracking her?â
She waved her hand, wincing.
âNot exactly. I knew Lucius had sent her to track you down so I was keeping an eye on her. Iraq is where I lost her trail.â
It was Timâs turn to wince. He tried to tell the next part of the report as quickly as possible, making a point to not look at Jason as he spoke.
âThat is my fault. I donât know exactly what happened when Pru and I were retrieved, since I had fully passed out by then, but the assassins brought Tam with us. I woke up an unknown amount of time later in a League base. Upon waking, I had initial reason to believe that I had been resurrected via Lazarus Pit, but the White Ghost quickly corrected my assumption. While not resurrecting me, they had needed to performed surgery and removed my spleen, the only organ damaged in the Widowerâs attack. After explaining what had happened, it was made clear to me that we were in the League base only known as the Cradle, and that I didnât have much of a choice in helping them find and destroy the Council of Spiders. They were holding Tam hostage in exchange for my cooperation.â
Barbara nodded as if that explained everything, and Tim really wished it did.
âI lead theâŚendeavor, as they called it, per Raâsâ orders. I tried my best to enforce non-lethal methods, but most of Raâsâ assassins were outmatched by the various members of the Council of Spiders anyway. I had complete access to his system, and because of that discovered that his Expediter was a mole. While working on the plan to take out the Council of Spiders, I also began enacting my plan to cripple the League as much as possible.â
He paused to finish off the coffee, the bitter dregs settling over his tongue.
âMy plan to take out the Council of Spiders required simultaneous hits on the known members, and while Pru and I were on our mission, unbeknownst to us, the Cradle was being infiltrated, courtesy of the Expediter. I made it back in time to save Tam. Raâs sent out a decoy, which enabled us to fight off the Council long enough to blow it all up. Literally. I blew the Cradle and as many other League bases as I had access to sky high. Cairo, Vienna, St. Petersburg, the Cradle, all of it went up in flames, figuratively and literally.â
Tim was about to continue when there was a knocking at the door. Alfred crossed the threshold and Jason was on his feet in the same moment, gesturing for him to take the seat. Alfred gave him a nod of thanks and sat down. Jason leaned against the wall behind him before waving his hand. Tim rolled his eyes and smiled at Alfred.
âThanks for breakfast.â
âYou are welcome, Master Timothy. But please, donât stop the retelling on my account. I can be caught up later.â
Tim nodded and took a deep breath.
âTam and I rushed back to Gotham, and it wasnât long before Raâs was contacting me again. He said that I needed to be punished for my actions against the League, which is where most of you came in. I didnât announce my return to Gotham, but I did contact who I could. Raâs wanted to cripple Bruceâs legacy by both killing everyone Bruce cared about and who was in Gotham, and by taking over Wayne Enterprises. Iâm sure everyone else already at least started their mission reports, so I wonât go into too much detail, but we thwarted Raâs on all accounts. None of the targets were assassinated or even seriously injured, and Raâs did not gain control over the company. I did.â
Tim mentally applauded himself. Such a succinct retelling of the last chunk of his life. No hint of the compromises he could feel staining his soul, no hint of how close the previous night had been, no hint of how he was suppressing his own emotions about the last 48-72 hours.
The mental applause died out as the hands shot up. He sighed before pointing at Jason.
âYour spick and span mission report seems to be missing a few details, Timberina. Details like why Raâs trusted you with access to his empire.â
âI donât really know why. He talked a lot about how much respects me and my intelligence, and talked about how heâd been watching me.â
âEw, creeper,â Jason said, again with too much glee for Timâs comfort.
Next, Tim pointed at Dick.
âNot a question, just want to state for the record and for posterityâs sake that while you said you knew Iâd catch you, itâs a load of bull. What Tim neglected to mention,â he spoke directly to the recorder now, âis that he took on Raâs al Ghul by himself after defeating his own appointed assassins. He was injured fairly severely, hence the current bed rest, including being kicked out a window. He passed out right as I caught him, which leads me to believe there is a very serious talk about peopleâs mental states in the near future.â
Timâs face was burning and there was nothing he could do to stop it. So maybe his mental health was a sensitive subject even before Bruceâs disappearance and everything that came after. Instead of addressing it or Dick, he pointed at Barbara.
She took a moment to speak, eyes wide and focused on Dick. Eventually she turned to face Tim.
âAny chance you saved some of that League data before, and I quote, blowing it sky high?â
âIâll get that data to you once Iâm off bedrest,â he said, throat tight. She just nodded, for which he was grateful.
Finally, he pointed at Steph.
âWhere does you and Tam factor into all of this?â
Tim felt his eyes go wide before he dropped his face into his hands, groaning.
âLover boy forgot about his own engagement? What a shame,â Jason crowed.
âI still have no clue what thatâs about,â Tim said through his hands.
âI believe it has something to do with our least favorite Gotham reporter,â Alfred said calmly.
âVale?â Tim asked, sitting up straight. âThatâŚactually might go a long way to explaining it.â
âAre there any further mission related questions?â Dick asked, voice having lost its older brother tone and taken on one too reminiscent of Batman for Tim's comfort in his bed.
Everyone shook their heads, so he leaned forward and turned off the recorder before pocketing it. Without any warning, the door flew open and in walked Kon, a red blur maneuvering around him.
âFinally! That took forever, and Timâs already a normally thorough guy. I thought youâd never finish talking,â Bart blabbered from first Alfredâs side then from between Stephanie and Barbara.
âNo speeding in the house,â Alfred reminded him.
âWoops,â Bart said, completely unrepentant.
âSorry for barging in so quickly, but we were getting impatient,â Kon explained. He had a bottle of water in his hands that he passed to Tim. Tim took it gratefully and didnât bother to wait before cracking it open.
âThanks,â he muttered before gulping half of it down.
âJust to clarify for the room at large, Tim is on mandatory no-doing-anything-even-remotely-work-related for three days, starting today, and is benched from Red Robin anything for the remainder of the week.â
âThanks, Dick,â Jason said, grinning, âso when is that promised movie night happening?â
âIâm free tonight and tomorrow night,â Barbara was quick to say.
âI can be free whenever itâs happening,â Steph added.
Tim looked up a Kon, trying to make his facial expression as pitiful as possible.
âCan you kidnap me between now and then?â
Konâs nose wrinkled in the begging of a laugh, but before he could actually reply, Bart was standing next to him.
âNo can do hermano, you know the rules of bed rest. No active kidnapping situations!â
Tim fell back into his pillows. The moment he wasnât sitting up anymore, the exhaustion he had been staving off hit him like a ton of bricks. Keeping his eyes open was a struggle, but thankfully (for once) he was in a room full of detectives.
âIâm sure weâll have plenty of more questions later, and so will Damian, but before we skedaddle and let you sleep, Tim, do we need to be doing anything this exact second about Bruce?â
Tim took a deep breath and tried sitting back up. When that failed, he focused on thinking.
âNot this exact second, but later today Iâll have all the info compiled we need to move forward. We have some time, but weâll need the Justice Leagueâs help on this.â Dick nodded, patted one of Timâs covered feet, and stood, taking the now empty tray with him.
âDonât think we donât need to talk, Tim,â Jason warned, before exiting the room with a two-finger salute.
âTim,â Steph started, but she stopped when she glanced around the room.
âWeâll talk later, Steph,â Tim said, hoping his tone was reassuring. It must have been because she just nodded and left to follow Jason. Who seemed to be waiting for her at the door. That is not good, he thought to himself, that is very not good for me.
Barbara just exchanged a nod with him before wheeling herself out. Tim ignored Bartâs excited speed-speech directed at Kon, who was slowly sitting down next to Tim's chest, and turned to Alfred.
âThat coffee Dick gave me was decaf, right?â
âIndeed it was, young master.â
âGood,â he said while smiling. Alfred returned the smile and stood to leave the room.
Now it was just Tim, Kon, and Bart, and Tim shuffled himself down in his bed so that he was no longer sitting up.
âIs it sleeping time?â Bart asked, voice hushed.
Konâs fingers began threading his hair, and Tim was too tired to stop the quiet moan that that elicited. Kon just laughed, quietly.
âI think it is Bart. Do you want to go see if Dick or the others want to hang out with you? I donât mind Tim-sitting some more.â
Tim missed whatever exchange they had next because before he knew it, he was asleep.
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Iâm really curious to know if the mary sue scare is still a thing that affects how people write and work with their OCs, or a pressure that people put on writers, or if the prevalence of readerfic/self-shipping/anti-cringe-culture has made that less of a forethought. Genuinely curious.
OP, I know this post is from February, but a friend found it this morning and I also think itâs a really good question and I wanted to give my answer to it, which is -
I think the prevalence of readerfic is one of the results of the Mary Sue scare. Itâs just that the people doing a lot of this writing donât know what a Mary Sue is and donât know theyâre living in the shadow of something that happened before.
Itâs been my experience that writing OCs is usually one of the first things we do in fandom, right? (I say this as someone who is still doing it fifteen years later, so Iâm not going to call it a phase.) And for a lot of us who started writing during a very particular period in fandom culture, when things were moving online, digital space was cheap and you could put up literally anything you wanted, including a lot of babyâs first fanfic.
Some of it was good; some of it was bad. Lots of people had strong opinions about it, and better writers than me have written about the role that (largely female) wish fulfillment fantasy plays in fanfic. But I think there is a generation of writers, and I am one of them, who are VERY self-conscious about writing OCs because the phrase Mary Sue was used very liberally in spaces I was in when I first started.
See, this is an angle I probably wouldnât have considered to this depth, so thank you for the insightful response! Itâs a fascinating parallel. I remember the Mary Sue era well and I still have residual fears about my OCs as a result, but I wasnât creatively active in fandom when the shift from OC-centric fic to reader-centric fic started.
Thereâs just a lack of dimension to readerfic that makes it hard to engage with, IMO. I can totally see it as a way of trimming all the fat off what an OC or a perceived Mary Sue did for the reader and getting straight to the wish fulfillment. No design or characterization to get in the way. At least, thatâs been my experience; Iâll admit I donât read a lot of readerfic because the directness of it is not what Iâm looking for.
I agree, I wish we could go back to writing original characters. Not because I hate readerfic, I really donât. Because creating a character outside yourself is a fan-to-narrative interaction you really canât replicate in any other way. It does things for representation and for building a story that you just canât with an implied character. Iâd love to see people really utilize the specific narrative distance readerfic creates and see what they can make with that, too.
I want to thank everyone who responded so eloquently in the tags - @yeswevegotavideoâs â#why do you think Iâm reading fiction? Itâs certainly not because I want to spend more time with myself âmade me laugh.
And youâre absolutely right, @hircyon - there usually is a lack of dimensionality in Readerfic, because I donât think the point has ever been to explore the canon characters - itâs to comfort the reader, and the reader has a thousand faces. (At least, we hope itâs a thousand. Two thousand would be better.)
Because thereâs another element here that I didnât mention in my first reply, and thatâs the commondification or gamification of fic culture, which is to say, I am here for a good time, not a long time, and I am posting this thing for the specific purpose of chasing likes and stats.
Mary Sue fic has a very low barrier to entry - readerfic does as well. And if youâre just starting out, what do you want? For people to read - you want to be in the moment, and the moment is getting shorter and shorter.
pronunciation basics: anything ending with "os" rhymes with "cross"
x in the quetzalin language sounds like "ch" as in "chop/cheap/chick"
for the most part, e and i at the start/end of a word will sound like ay and ee respectively (such as flambe, fiance / bring, sing) while e and i stuck between consonants will sound like eh and ih respectively (such as lend, wreck / fix, tick)
posted a thing on my other side blog. if any of these pronoun sets spark joy for you, feel free to use them. when my stories are eventually published, i suspect there will be some nonbinary/genderqueer folks who take a liking to these pronoun sets and decide to use them irl, so why wait until it's all published? free pile of neopronouns for you.
the sets that have three words function just like standard english pronouns (he/him/his)
sets with two words are just a base pronoun and a possessive form (think you/yours)
the ones that only have a single word don't get any other forms and you could add a 's to make it possessive when speaking english. or you could just get creative with word order lol.
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I'm getting so sick of major female characters in historical media being incredibly feisty, outspoken and public defenders of women's rights with little to no realistic repercussions. Yes it feels like pandering, yes it's unrealistic and takes me out of the story, yes the dialogue almost always rings false - but beyond all that I think it does such a disservice to the women who lived during those periods. I'm not embarrassed of the women in history who didn't use every chance they had to Stick It To The Man. I'm not ashamed of women who were resigned to or enjoyed their lot in life. They weren't letting the side down by not having and representing modern gender ideals. It says a lot about how you view average ordinary women if the idea of one of your main characters behaving like one makes them seem lame and uninteresting to you.
It also almost always comes down to poor research.
Rather than research the ways subversive women really acted, what they really said, what they actually cared about, the very specific ways in which women used to be treated, dismissed, infantilised etc, we get books and TV shows in which modern words, modern concerns and modern ways of being âa strong womanâ are awkwardly squeezed into eras in which they make no sense.
Itâs a disservice to the real feminists of that time, to the real women who lived and survived in a system of continuous misogynistic oppression, and the real journey we have travelled to get to where we are, and the long long way we still have to go. Worse, it feeds into the ignorance that breeds that complacency which then leads to a lot of the gains we have made being taken away from us.
Another reason I dislike Les Mis adaptations that make Jean Valjean constantly openly angry/violent is because they miss that Jean Valjean is not allowed to be angry. The fact he is forbidden from expressing anger is, I argue, actually a very important part of his character in the novel!
One of the subtler political messages of the story is that some people are given freedom to express anger, while others are forced to be excessively meek and conciliatory in order to survive.
Wealthy conservatives like Monsieur Gillenormand can âfly into ragesâ every five minutes and have it treated as an endearing quirk. Poor characters like Fantine or Jean Valjean must be constantly polite and ingratiating to âtheir superiorsâ at all times, even in the face of mockery and violence, or else they will be subjected to punishment. If Gillenormand beats his child with a stick, itâs a silly quirk; if Fantine beats a man harassing her, she is sentenced to months in prison.
(Thenardier and Javert are interesting examples of this too. Thenardier acts superficially polite and ingratiating to his wealthy âsuperiorsâ while insulting them behind their backs. Javert, meanwhile, is completely earnest in his mindless bootlicking. But I could write an entire other post on this.)
The point is thatâŚ.Jean Valjean has to be submissive and self-effacing, or he puts himself in danger. He canât afford to be angry and make scenes, or he will be punished. The only barrier between himself and prison is his ability to be so âcourteousâ that no one bothers to pry into his past.
Jean Valjean is excessively polite to people, in the way that youâre excessively polite to an armed cop who pulls you over for speeding when you secretly have a few illegal grams of marijuana in the your car trunk. XD Itâs politeness built on fear, is what I mean. Itâs politeness built on a desperation to make a powerful person avoid looking too closely at you.
Itâs politeness at gunpoint.
Jean Valjean has also spent nineteen years living in an environment where any expression of anger could be punished with severe violence. That trauma is reflected in the overly cautious reserved way he often speaks with people (even people who are kind and would never actually hurt him.)
So adaptations that have Jean Valjean boldly having shouting matches with people in public and beating cops half to death without worrying about the repercussions just make go like â???â
Because thatâs part of whatâs fascinating about Jean Valjean to me? On one hand, he is a genuinely kind compassionate person, who cares deeply about other people and behaves kindly out of altruism. But on the other hand, he was also âbeaten into submissionâ by prison, and forced into adopting conciliatory bootlicking behaviors in order to survive. And it can sometimes be hard to tell when he is being kind vs. when he is being âpoliteâ â when he is speaking and acting out of earnest compassion vs. when he is speaking and acting out of fear.
The TL;DR is that I think itâs important that even though Jean Valjean is very (justifiably) angry about the injustice that was inflicted on him, his anger is harshly policed at all timesâ by other people, and by himself. He has been told his anger is wrong/selfish so often that he believes it. His anger takes weirder more unhealthy forms because he has no safe outlet for it. His rage at society becomes a possessiveness towards Cosette and silent hatred of Marius, but primarily it becomes useless self-destructive constant hatred of himself. And while I might be phrasing this wrong, I think thatâs whatâs interesting about Jean Valjeanâs relationship with angerâ the way his justified fury at his own mistreatment gets warped into more and more unhealthy forms by the way heâs forced to constantly repress it.
Yes! This also links extremely strongly to Valjean's most noticeable trait, that he is strong. In fact, he's so uniquely strong that it gives him away to Javert while he's in hiding! So he has to hide his physicality both practically (to avoid being recognized) and to avoid being seen as violent. In large part, he only willingly uses his strength to help people (saving the person crushed by a cart, carrying Marius). Because he has this body which is perceived as violent without proof, he has to work twice as hard to interact peacefully.
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got told at lunch "you feel like Tumblr Incarnate" and i had to tell them i've been here for 13 years and counting. i was here three years before dashcon happened. i saw the mishapocalypse. i survived the gigapause. i've been here longer than the shoelaces post. i've been here since it was hipsters versus fandom and i played both sides extensively by overdoing the sepia filters on everything and making my own flashing galaxy gif edits for my fandom posts. i'm every tumblr. it's all in me
99% of callout posts are bullshit and just petty personal drama someone is escalating to get even on a grudge. do not engage with these, do not freelance as a cop
DNIs do not work. accept this. internalize that people you don't like will see your posts and engage with them. this is unavoidable and the sooner you make peace with it the freer your mind will be. block the freaks and don't sweat the small stuff
building a tight knit circle of fellow weirdos who vibe with your particular quirks and taste is infinitely more rewarding and sustainable than chasing the biggest numbers
don't respond to bad-faith arguments or bad takes; just block people, blacklist tags, filter post content, and move on. don't feed the trolls (or the bigots)
don't hate-follow
don't tag your hate (ex. if you're posting about how much you hate a ship, don't tag it as that ship, etc.)
don't feel obligated to keep following someone who posts stuff that upsets/depresses/angers/bores you just because you know them really well, or because you're mutuals, or because you used to like what they post. following is nothing personal and neither is unfollowing
op doesn't know you; avoid parasocial relationships
don't pick fights or reblog posts just to disagree/argue
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family gathering. playing monopoly. getting close to the end. 12 year old turns to 8 year old brother and says itâs time to become esteemed colleagues. i say what? he says esteemed colleagues. they merge their money and assets and beat me at monopoly
i have seen so many arabic/middle-eastern inspired fantasy settings where womenâs fashion is made to be so revealing and near sexualised, because apparently the western people who make them cannot think of âpretty enoughâ designs that honour muslim culture and so erase it.
YOU DONâT HAVE TO BE SEXUALISED TO BE BEAUTIFUL!
Ok, unless something's going on I'm not aware of (extremely likely), I gotta point out the term "Pet Play" is significantly older than Tik Tok, or most of its userbase for that matter.
Yeah, I'm not mad about using the term "pet play". That's a perfectly fine term. I'm mad because they didn't use that term: they used "pet p!ay", a censored version
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more stories where falling in love is a horrifying fate worse than death rather than a source of comfort and hope. more stories where love is understood as a terminal affliction.
more stories where someone falls in love and understands that this means they will be changed and made more vulnerable by it, compelled to do irrational things in the name of it, and be willing to die for it, and starts lashing out and stress vomiting about it
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Wait. I just looked at what Xkit calls "old blue".
The hex for that is #36465d. It's darker, but that is to be expected because the poll restricted the possible values to only the color space where the sum of all 3 colors adds up to 255, so that removes a variable. You expect the saturation and value to be different just because of that - the saturation and value are 42% and 36% respectively for Tumblr Blue, while for this color they're 49% and 45%. It's a bit lighter blue, with a tiiiiny bit more saturation.
If you just look at the hue angle, however, that's completely unconstrained.
The hue angle for Tumblr Blue is 215°.
The hue angle for this color is...
215°.
You didn't just make "Tumblr Blue"
You made pretty much as close as this poll could've POSSIBLY GOTTEN to the actual fucking Xkit-defined "Tumblr Blue".
(for the record, if you wanted to truly get Tumblr Blue with this poll, the actual closest you could've gotten would've been 25% red, 32% green, 43% blue)
2. everyone just commenting âQUERCHEDâ is delightful
3. some people have suggested i use grammarly. this is letting the robots win and also would deprive me of the opportunity to complain about insignificant technical things instead of just wanting to scream over writing all the time
4. i use googledocs because i want access to my writing on multiple platforms and also because fuck microsoftÂ
5. the difference between [its] and [itâs] is that [itâs] is always used as a shortened form of [it is] and [its] is used as the possessive of [it]. yes, this goes against the usual practice of just tacking on an [âs] when you want to indicate ownership. yes, english is absolutely a trash language.
iâm sorry what kind of AI FUCKERY is going on here that you are trying to ADD IN ADVERBS FOR ME that could ENTIRELY CHANGE THE TONE from a neutral âHeâd been youngâ to something that would put emphasis on just how young he was and how long ago it was you cannot just THROW EXTRA WORDS IN LIKE THAT
âheâd been so youngâ IâLL FUCKING KILL YOU
I just listened to a podcast with an A.I. research scientist. She said if you wouldnât trust autocorrect to be in charge of a decision, then you shouldnât trust another A.I. with it, so⌠thatâs something to worry about