I wanted to make one of those "pro endo blank" blogs but it was so cringe that I physically couldn't so we're leaning into irony instead.
Hi. I'm Miku. I'm your local he/him cismale miku. Cool right? I think so.
My system is a created system, and I'm a tulpamancer (although I wouldn't consider most of my headmates to be tulpas, those are seperate facts about me.)
My stances are:
- Endo nuanced
- Para nuanced
- Anti harmful rq and TransID
- Etc Etc I'll add more if they're relevent.
No DNI because DNI's are stupid but if you act like a whiny kid I will block you.
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"What may make something traumatic to me, may not to you. As a clinician, I gauge trauma by whether the client’s body is having a trauma response, not whether the precipitating incident was 'objectively' traumatic.
If a trauma response is present, then trauma is present.
Again, we must understand that trauma is subjective so that we can answer that second question: 'How do I know if mine counts?'
Simply put, if it felt traumatic to you, it counts."
Source: What Is Trauma and Does My Experience Count?
I keep seeing posts about how "endo neutrals are just pros in disguise because they only ever make pro-endo arguements"
And its like.
It does feel like they see someone endo-neutral or endo-nuanced make one pro-endo arguement one time and automatically assume all of their opinions otherwise align with the stance.
Maybe a hot take? I actually think it's okay to normalize seperate spaces for CDD and non-CDD systems. And maybe we should do it a little more.
Like. I see a buuuuunch of posts about CDD systems who start their sys-journey out in endogenic communities and who internalized a lot of fake claiming as a result (for not experiencing systemhood in the same way as the people they're surrounded by).
I've seen it happen in the reverse too. Young endogenic systems who start out in the traumagenic community and try to mold their systems to fit a shape they aren't meant to fit, just so they can fit in.
I think that harms everyone in the long run, but when you're a young multiple or plural and you don't have the language to describe your experience, you'll probably latch on to whichever label you find first. I know we did. And that might lead to some harm as you try to be something that you're not.
I do think that there should be shared spaces, but I lowkey think that like. Maybe there should be more separate spaces then there are. They're big chilling.
I think this is another ideal I carry from the tulpamancy communities that I'm a part of. Many of the tulpamancers I know aren't in many mixed spaces because tulpamancy works entirely differently to CDD's and no one wants someone with a CDD to mistake their alters for tulpas and never get the help that they need.
Mostly I see this as an issue with the pro-endo community. There are plenty of spaces for just CDD's, but I don't think I've ever seen a space for endos exclusively that wasn't a tulpamancy server.
interesting idea! would you be willing to elaborate more on why an appealing solution to the internalizing fakeclaiming is separate spaces, instead of something like normalizing variance in presentation?
Actually I think normalizing variance is a good solution too.
The seperate spaces thing wouldn't super help with the internal fake claiming, tbf. Regardless of origin you can't guarantee that a system will start out in a space that will point them in the right direction as far as origin. There will still be endogenic systems who start out in a DID space and think they have DID and visa versa. I don't think you can actually stop that from happening.
But many endogenic and traumagenic systems have their own functions and culture, and I think more seperate spaces should exist. While there are traumagenic only spaces, I don't see endogenic only spaces that aren't tulpamancy servers, and I think they probably should exist.
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Idk if maybe this is a Tumblr/Discord language difference but to me anti endo ≠ sysmed. Not inheritly, at least.
Sysmeds (at least as far as I've understood in my time on Discord) have always been systems that fakeclaim cdd systems for presenting abnormally or not being/not wanting to be diagnosed.
But it seems like here its more often the case that people are of the opinion that sysmed = anti endo.
Has anyone else noticed this difference? Am I just in weird communities with this definition or something?
I've always thought it was strange for blogs like anti-willo-miku to call themselves sysmeds when they don't seem to fit the definition that I'm familiar with, but I think its just that its defined differently here. Realizing that has made it make a lot more sense.
"Corporations discovering plurality would be a good thing"
☝️No. Probably not.
1. "There's nowhere to buy plural pride merch." Alt community merch should stay in alt communities. Buy your plural merch from plural people on Etsy or make it yourself. The heart and passion of artists will always be better than the soulless reproductions of corporations.
2. "The "big debate" would stop being an issue bc brands would be pro-endo!" Did queer discourse get better after corporations picked up queer pride? No. It didn't. The "big debate" in syscourse wouldn't cease to exist, it would become publicized. Do you want random singlets flocking to your system spaces to oogle you? To ask invasive questions while you're trying to live life? I certainly don't.
3. "We would get more media recognition." Idk about traumagenic systems, but as a tulpamancer I don't want big media companies to try to tackle the complexities of my life and practice. I don't trust them with that. Bigger media companies can't even portray DID in a respectful way, how can I expect them to do so for any other plural identity?
While I would love a world where plurality is more widely recognized, getting the concept picked up by big corporations comes with downsides that have poisoned other communities in a recognizable pattern. I don't want that to happen to this community.
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"What exactly is your stance on origin syscourse?"
I would prefer you judge my personhood based on my actual opinions and understanding of things. Ask me what I actually believe in instead of asking for labels. anti/pro/neu on their own communicate nothing beyond signaling what snap judgements to make about someone's character.
Maybe a hot take? I actually think it's okay to normalize seperate spaces for CDD and non-CDD systems. And maybe we should do it a little more.
Like. I see a buuuuunch of posts about CDD systems who start their sys-journey out in endogenic communities and who internalized a lot of fake claiming as a result (for not experiencing systemhood in the same way as the people they're surrounded by).
I've seen it happen in the reverse too. Young endogenic systems who start out in the traumagenic community and try to mold their systems to fit a shape they aren't meant to fit, just so they can fit in.
I think that harms everyone in the long run, but when you're a young multiple or plural and you don't have the language to describe your experience, you'll probably latch on to whichever label you find first. I know we did. And that might lead to some harm as you try to be something that you're not.
I do think that there should be shared spaces, but I lowkey think that like. Maybe there should be more separate spaces then there are. They're big chilling.
I think this is another ideal I carry from the tulpamancy communities that I'm a part of. Many of the tulpamancers I know aren't in many mixed spaces because tulpamancy works entirely differently to CDD's and no one wants someone with a CDD to mistake their alters for tulpas and never get the help that they need.
Mostly I see this as an issue with the pro-endo community. There are plenty of spaces for just CDD's, but I don't think I've ever seen a space for endos exclusively that wasn't a tulpamancy server.
Hot take maybe but you should make friends with people who have different opinions than you.
I have anti-endo friends. Having those friends helps me see and understand their point of view much more than arguing with randos on tumblr. And having me as a friend has gotten them to understand tulpamancy more, be more open to it.
I'm not saying that every non-traumagenic system absolutely needs to go make an anti-endo bestie or visa versa (I know that that wouldn't be sustainable for many.) What I AM saying is that we should all reach across the aisle more.
Interact with people on the other side when they have good things to say. Don't just correct people.
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Just say you're a kinnie and move on! Right so what about the entirely brain made endo systems or the non-fictive heavy endo systems. You telling endogenic systems to just be kinnies is yet again denying people their lived experiences, but also trying to shove brainmades into a community they may not find similarities in if they themselves don't identify as being kins. Stop pushing people into boxes they don't specifically say they want to be in.
I think these people only say shit like this cause they think all endo systems are just trying to roleplay their favorite fictional media. But they forget about brain mades.
"Ah yes. I kin this unknown brown haired idiot from california named Arthur."
