It's been... almost a year since we created this sideblog. And I just realized we don't really have an intro for this blog, so I decided to create one.
We use the name Watcher collectively, and they/them pronouns. Bodily we're 22.
This blog was created with the sole purpose of archiving plural comics, posts on medical and non-medical plurality, plural resources, posts on syscourse, and to see how syscourse evolves and developes over time.
Who are we?
We're a mixed-origin plural system, originally traumagenic but we've gained new members other ways, and because we have traumagenic, endogenic, and willogenic members we've decided to keep origins this way. We suspect we have an undiagnosed dissociative disorder, most likely OSDD. Because of this, we sometimes call ourselves an OSDD system.
We use this blog to reblog general system, plural, comics, or syscourse posts. We will sometimes debate in the syscourse tag, especially anti endos, or sometimes respond to drama.
Syscourse stance
We're pro endo, anti harassment, and pro kindness. Nowadays we lean more neutral, but we support the idea that endogenic systems are systems, plural, and just sharing their experiences.
This blog was created to separate plural stuff from our main account, @watcherwingedcat. Especially when it comes to syscourse. We're not professionals in any way on systems, but we've been researching both DID and dissociative disorders in general since we were thirteen. We've read lots of studies, papers, research, and conclusions from professionals, and we're yet to find a specialist in dissociative disorders, mental health professional, psychiatrist or psychologist who says that non-dissociative systems aren't real.
Our system name is The Void council, we don't really identify with any origin label tough, as we think it only creates division amongst the community. In total, there's twelve of us, in order of formation:
Charlie, or Moss, the host. Bodily 22 years old. He/they/it pronouns. Dog therian (greyhound), jackrabbit therian, barn owl therian, watcherkin, winged catkin, moonhearted and phantomhearted. Child of the moon and lab experiment archetype. Aroace, genderfaun and nonbinary.
Orion, protector. A couple of thousand years old. It/he pronouns. Watcherkin and raptorkin. Aroace and agender. He won't post as regularly as I do, and we don't have a system to sign off our posts, so sometimes I'll be posting and sometimes he will post.
Theo, little. Around 7 or 9 years old. He doesn't really post here, as he doesn't like social media. He/him pronouns, a fox hybrid/kenomimi.
Clementine, positivity holder. 24 years old. She/her pronouns. Human and questioning horsehearted.
Leo, a Leonardo Hamato fictive from ROTTMNT, persecutor. 16 years old. He/it pronouns.
Nero, protector, dissociation holder and co-host. Shapeshifter, took a long while to form, as he was stuck trying to convey some sort of identity. Now he's pretty chill, handles stressful situations and dissociation. We don't really know their role, he's just there to block memories and emotions when needed. Voidkin, ageless. They/them pronouns.
Lana, social protector. She likes cheeseburgers, we think she's around 22-23 years old. Human, she/her pronouns.
Angel, an Angel Dust fictive, emotional protector. He's around 35 years old. Pretty chill, uses he/she pronouns but generally doesn't care a lot about gender.
Kinger, a Kinger fictive. Acts a lot like a dad. He's an old man, don't know exactly his age but maybe even older than Orion, he/him pronouns. Doesn't front often.
Vance, a Vox fictive. We don't know exactly his age (around his thirties), and he's pretty source separate. An anxious mess most of the time, age regresses pretty easily. He/him but doesn't care too much about gender.
Nico, a nonhuman headmate. He's a black fox, probably an adolescent or a child (acts 18 or younger). He/him pronouns. Doesn't talk much when fronting, even less not fronting.
Caine, a Caine fictive from TADC. He looks a lot like his source, and he's source-conected with Kinger, both from the same canon. He/him pronouns.
We're neurodivergent, with autism and ADHD, both diagnosed. Because of this, sometimes we might read the tone of a post wrong, and we may reply with tone tags.
We don't really have a DNI (as they don't work), just don't be an asshole. We're pretty neutral on everything surrounding drama, but we have a general stance on being nice toward others and don't judge other's lives or business in general.
When it comes to syscourse, we're endo friendly (pro endo, leaning neutral because we understand both sides) as we thought we were endogenic at first but with time we discovered we had a traumagenic origin and we're now mixed origins. Generally, we think the drama and in-fighting is pointless and in general rude.
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something that worries me very slightly about modern willogenic spaces is the “everybody get more plural NOW!!” attitude, which is culturally pretty new, and while it does promote self-acceptance and highlight the positive sides of an experience that isn’t always positive, it can still have some negative effects on both endo + traumagen systems interested in willomancy. talking about that isn’t an anti endo thing but just a pro-endo-wanting-endo-spaces-to-be-good thing btw. in this essay i will
back in the days when we went through syscovery the attitude was not “have an idea for a headmate? fuck it, make them now!” but “if you’re going to create a headmate, you need to be absolutely 100% certain beforehand that you’re going to respect them regardless of who they turn out to be & whether or not that aligns with your expectations, even and especially if they’re a fictive who ends up nothing like the character they’re based on and/or completely disconnects from them, 100% certain you’re going to be able & willing to give them time in the body [if switching is possible, and back in those days it was heavily desired and encouraged for those who couldn’t switch to build the skill], 100% certain you’re going to spend the necessary time and emotional energy engaging with them, fleshing them out until they can figure out the rest, interacting with them even when you get no responses back for hours, days, potentially many months without giving up and allowing them to dissipate out of frustration, 100% certain you can handle the new existential ramifications of your own new existence as a headmate,” etc etc etc. if you were flippant about thoughtform creation you would get downvoted or disliked into oblivion, some of the comments would be calling you empathyless, akin to a murderer if your thoughtform dissipated because of you
there was definitely a time when willomancy was seen as risky, a HUGE life decision that should be given the same consideration as having a real, physical child (this was a SUPER common talking point), and that wasn’t necessarily better than some of the more relaxed modern attitudes because it had the effect of scaring people away from willomancy who may have benefitted from it but it also meant that a lot of the systems who DID get into willomancy did so with a good sense of the gravity of the situation, acceptance of any and all deviations, with a lot of thought already put into it, a lot of time + energy set aside, a lot of care already generated for a being that didn’t exist yet and may not exist for months to years. you didn’t usually find willo-ed fragments because if you intentionally left a thoughtform half-complete that’d be really frowned-upon (as a thoughtform who remembers bits and pieces of the time other alters were creating me i can attest that this is not a fun state to be in)
but now i do see some willo-ed fragments around who barely are allowed to front or further develop themselves outside of picking stock traits from curated lists online and i feel a bit sorry for them. there are probably some oldheads out there who hate the idea of BAH blogs and i don’t agree, i don’t HATE them, but i do feel iffy about the idea of that being the only method some people use for willomancy and/or fleshing out traumagenic fragments. because even for those of us who do have those traumagenic fragments, trying to flesh them out by choosing to label them aliengender or aggressive or whatever is only going to help you so much. what are the nuances of their aliengender identity? under what circumstances are they aggressive, what triggers do they have, how does their aggression manifest, why & how is it such a fundamental part of their person that they’re labeled an “aggressive person?” if you’re a system with low communication that makes this process much more difficult if not impossible. if you decide a fragment should be a traumaholder and they weren’t before, you could open them up to being exposed to memories & experiences purposefully hidden from them. these are all questions and considerations old school willomancers would make, write both long lists of traits AND explanations/descriptions for them, put their willo in various hypothetical scenarios to test & figure these traits out more intuitively.
i’m worried that we’re becoming a bit too lax about willo creation and that the resultant thoughtforms & systems will suffer for it. i have no way of knowing how people are using these blogs or any of the popular willo methods, and of course there have always been people who didn’t take it seriously and ended up hurting their thoughtforms & themselves even back when we were warned over and over and over about it, but with the modern attitude of “just make your head blorbo, don’t worry too much about it!!!!” i find myself wondering if there are more willomancers like that today than before. who are struggling or maybe should never have become willomancers in the first place because they don’t have the adequate resources to manage the process and weren’t warned about it or encouraged to give it some more thought.
while it’s a net positive that plurality is gaining acceptance & being seen as less of a life sentence of misery and more as another way of life that can be miserable but can also be desirable, fulfilling, satisfying—i don’t think we should allow it to be seen as something super easy, risk-free, harmless. because it isn’t. it isn’t like raising a real-world child but it is like taking care of and nurturing a whole new person, and if you don’t pour into them what they need to grow, they’re going to stagnate and that can cause a wide range of problems for yourself and/or the rest of your system.
i don’t think this means traumagenic & disordered systems should avoid willomancy or endo spaces though. we went through syscovery mainly in willo spaces, working together to build a couple thoughtforms before discovering both long-buried and quietly active traumagenic alters & getting diagnosed. i’m grateful for that because it allowed us to explore ourselves without feeling the shame a lot of syscovering disordered systems feel. systemhood was destigmatized for us way before we discovered we were a system ourselves and we have willo communities to thank for it. that being said, should most traumagenics & disordered systems who already know they’re a system be extra careful about willomancy? fuck yes. we inherently have less resources to dish out and many of us who don’t have well-functioning gatekeepers or gatekeepers at all will have a hard time intentionally allocating body time for the willo. you’re taking the chance that this willo will turn out to be some sort of person who’ll cause problems with other alters, not just whoever they meet outside the body. if you’re very destabilized internally attempting willomancy can further destabilize you.
the TLDR is this: we used to scare people away from willomancy way too much, but now we maybe don’t scare them enough. it’s not always an easy, fun, happy, fast process, and if you’re already a traumagenic &/or disordered system you especially need to be mindful of what willomancy requires from you. BAH blogs aren’t bad but if that’s your one and only method for engaging in willomancy that’s concerning and they aren’t even really that helpful for fleshing out fragments beyond giving you an outline of identity labels to work with, many of which might end up discarded anyway
The idea that sysmedicalism is not hostile because it says everyone who is plural is that way due to childhood abuse and all endos are just wrong about their own internal experience is. Something.
That something might be paternalistic but you know it's something!
Reminder that what tradition has called "imaginary friends" is a psychological phenomenon experienced by more than 60% of children, with about a third to two-thirds of those "imaginary friends" demonstrating autonomy distinct from that of the host child.
I have a best friend who I came out as a system to about 2 years ago and I can tell she just straight up thinks I’m lying.
Ontop of that, a lot of my headmates have very complicated relationships with her, our protector has a strained relationship with her because she dosent believe us and she frequently can’t tell when he’s fronting even though by now it should be very obvious or even when he tell her he is. our youngest headmate is mad that she’s no longer a child and feels as though her best friend is gone, the one she remembers. No other headmate bothers to interact with her and gets embarrassed at the idea.
She’s my best friend, she’s been my best friend quite literally since birth and she will continue till we die, we are sisters. But I can’t drop this one thing that’s been nagging me for 2 years now.
She will be nice and polite, I can talk pretty freely about my system hood stuff but I know in my heart that she thinks I’m total bullshit.
She’s a extremely sceptical person that I understand but this is such a major part of myslef that it feels like a kick in the gut to not be believed, it takes a lot for me to tell someone about our system hood, and the only person I can be completely unmasked with is my girlfriend. I just want my best friend to know who we really are.
I hate the endogenics are radqueers arguments because they just show such a misunderstanding of what each community is as well as why radqueers are problematic in the first place.
Endogenics are not claiming to have a disorder due to their plurality(except in cases where they have trauma they typically fully remember to back up actually needing treatment). It is focused on non-disordered experiences of feeling like you are more than one regardless of autonomy of parts. This includes things like parts work, code switching/masking, delusions and a natural lack of stagnancy of identity that comes with other identities or disorders. If it makes you feel like you are more than one and benifits you to identify as such its plural(a term coined explicitly to be pro-endo). It is regularly a theraputic coping mechanism for adverse experiences as the majority of endogenics have significant trauma(many significant childhood trauma) alongside multiple disorders(regularly developmental and/or trauma based) that they report and makes day to day life naturally more difficult for them.
And willogenics specifically? Are actually the least like other created plurality types as it developed as a practice in the plural community instead of the singlet one. It is more often used to create headmates in already existing systems over creating plurality from scratch. Its also commonly used for traumagenic parts such as with elaborating fragments or aiding in difficult traumagenic splits. Yes one can be both traumagenic and willogenic at the same time without it contradicting one another. When you go "I wish x could exist to help me cope with this trauma"(whether consciously or subconsciously) and an alter that is x forms to deal with said trauma that falls under willomancy per the community definition(doesn't not mean you have to see or identify yourself as such with how common an experience this is just that some with that experience will identify it as willogenic as it benefits them to do so and fits the definition).
Now radqueers... We need to acknowledge that there is a distinct difference between radqueer experiences and radqueer community. Because the community 100% is harmful and breeds potentially dangerous situations but the experiences themselves are regularly normal trauma responses that have been demonized outside of the community. I don't touch the radqueer community but of the few transDID folks I've met all of them are OSDD-1 systems who have atypical dysphoria and feel less valid due to the community treating DID as the more valid disorder. TransTrauma? Is commonly those who don't feel like their trauma is enough(usually again because it has been invalidated) to justify the trauma response they experience. Demonizing radqueer experiences when they are in that community due to having their normal experiences demonized only exacerbates the problem. Using their experiences to demonize others who have a completely different experience exacerbates the problem.
Endogenics are those claiming to have a non-disordered experience, and not wanting a disorder, of feeling like they are more than one for reasons other than their trauma. TransAbled folks feel like they should have a disorder due to atypical dysphoria which they may or may not attempt to transition into having to alleviate dysphoria(no transitioning into having a disorder you don't is not ok but experiencing atypical dysphoria should be more accepted with how common it is in trauma survivors). They aren't the same thing.
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being plural is so funny because i’ll be watching from a backseat in my own mind as someone else wearing my face talks and interacts with people i’ve known all my life, which would normally be horrifying but they’re my brain homies so it’s chill
below the cut is a comic of an interaction between Citrine (🍊🧡), our host, and Yarrow (💛🌼), our system manager, who tends to be more logical rather than comforting at times. (plus featuring a few other headmates)
if anything is hard to read, please let us know, and we'll work on changing the colors, font, or anything else to make it easier to see.
we've really been in the feels today due to a lot of trauma bullshit.
doesnt help that we've been exhausted due to work and have been getting no sleep due to night terrors, but also today has been really hard because its one of our past abusers birthdays.
just been hitting extra hard for some reason when we thought we we're kinda over it, but that really is how trauma works, isn't it? it just comes in waves.
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