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anybody else in the club feeling this one
Honestly I wish people with neurological disorders and mental illness talking to themselves was more normalized so hereâs to people with autism who narrate things! people with adhd who talk out loud to remember stuff! people with touretteâs and tic disorders with verbal tics! people with psychosis who talk to their voices! people with DID who talk to their alters!
If you talk to yourself for any reason you are wonderful and not bad or weird. And if you see someone talking to yourself and think itâs weird? Maybe mind your own business!
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This.
This is why people who stay in my life are neurodiverse like me!

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every day i am percievedâ˘ď¸
There is a reason for this though!
The original tweet summarizes it pretty well. Fanfic tends to be popular among certain types of neurodivergent people (aka people most likely to read excessively as a child, and have burnout as an adult) for the same reasons that we tend to hyperfixateâneurochemical signaling (I hope Iâm using that phrase correctly). What I mean is, for people who are really dependent on changes in dopamine/serotonin/neurotransmitter levels, who have low levels or wonky neural reward systems (perhaps the most common types of neurodivergence)âŚpeople like us rely on dependable external sources of those neurochemicals. In order to function, we spend a lot of our free time trying to level out our brain chemistry using things that can reliably bring us a steady stream of joyful moments (rewards) without costing too much of the mental effort that is already in short supply.Â
significantly:Â the investment of reading has to be balanced with a steady âreturn on investmentââand this return has to start fairly quickly. because again, we donât have a lot of attention/energy to invest on tiring things. we have perpetual âlow batteriesâ in that regard.
that doesnât mean these stories are âsimple,â or that they lack complexity or valueâonly that the reward has to come in short regular intervals, and it has to have a low âupfront cost.â which is why fanfic stories are so perfectly formulated for neurodivergent readersâthey are often beautifully written, but skip a lot of the upfront costs (of introducing new characters, of world-building, of getting the audience emotionally connected to the story elements).
the nature of fanfiction is that the reader has a pre-existing relationship with this world and these characters. thatâcombined with the shorter average length of ficsâmeans that fan fics very quickly start ârewardingâ the reader in a way that traditional fiction struggles to. thatâs not a bad thing! and maybe itâs something more traditionally published writers should be paying attention to.
Fanfic, as a genre, has been uniquely helpful and accessible to many neurodivergent readers who would otherwise struggle to immerse themselves in stories. Iâm glad so many of you have found a way to love and enjoy reading again! The important thing is that you are spending time inside stories you loveâthe way those stories are published or presented to the world is just one detail.
*holds your hand* no, weâre ALL bitches
But what I wonder is, why didnât this affect us as children? Why were we able to read so easily then? Is it because we had more energy when we didnât have to be in charge of our own care tasks?
me: you know how sometimes instead of a song you just get a spoken phrase stuck in your head and it repeats over and over
other people: no
me years later: oh i have echolalia
adhd just makes your really bad at capitalism, unfortunately
like bro i am just floating in a bubble detached from the flow of time and you want me to work 8 hour shifts?
I am built to sit up from sundown to sunup with minimal food and less light watching for intruders or little animals that I can kill. That requires very little of what would actually be called work and a whole lot of just zoning out because my eyes and ears are naturally attuned to picking up and focusing on changes to the environment. I am not built for the 9 to 5 office world, Janet. Unless your job requires me to persistence hunt Mark for sport.
(Source: me)
My old man once said to me, "your thoughts are so random and unconnected. We were just talking about the carnival- how did you get started on wasps?"
So, I told him, "they're not unconnected- we were talking about going to the carnival, and the carnival is on the same fairgrounds they used to use for the rodeo, and one time at the rodeo my brother spilled sprite on himself and a bee went up his shirt and stung him, and bees die when they sting, but wasps don't, and I was wondering why, so I asked you."
And he said, "that makes no sense," and for the life of me I can't understand how anyone thinks of anything if not by this exact process

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my adhd as a kid: oh my god you will devour books at the expense of all else. yes you will get yelled at for reading books in class and during recess instead of playing with ur peers
my adhd as an adult: no you cannot read books anymore lmao haha. the most you can do is comic books cuz there are pictures đ¤Şđ¤Şđ¤Ş iâm hilarious
me, in the grocery store looking for ADHD med friendly breakfast juices squinting at cartons: any of you fuckers here got antiscurvy added in there??
For those of you just tuning in: drinking or eating anything even mildly acidic an hour before or after you take your ADHD meds can pretty much negate their effects. Vitamin C, aka Abscorbic Acid, aka ânatural preservativesâ is an acid that can do just that.
Which is why I start my day with a glass of chocolate milk like my third grade self wished I could lol.
I talked to my actual medical doctor about this. she had never heard of it, so she looked at a few medical journals, then said âoh! yeah, thatâs wrong.â
people taking recreational stimulants would use vitamin c to get the drugs out of their system before taking a drug test. They would have to consume huge amounts of it (like, multiple vitamin c SUPPLEMENTS, not just a couple glasses of oj) to have a chance of passing, and even that didnât always work.
point is, my doctor assured me that having a glass of orange juice for breakfast should have negligible, if any, affects on your adhd medicine. I recommend asking your own doctors abt it at ur next appointment.
legitimate fucking lifehack: discord server literally just for yourself to keep track of stuff over devices. links. reminders and checklists. all neatly divided into categories. search function and dates. why didnt i do this earlier oh my god.
op here. everybody adding passive aggressive comments like âjust use [other thing]â or âwow u dont know [other thing] exists get well soon â¤ď¸â owes me 5 dollars
everybody else especially adhd folks are very welcome and i hope u see something beautiful today
ive been doing this lately and it works pretty well!
these r the channels i use
basically organisation has my schedule and any random stuff thats happening or i gotta do
media is where i drop a youtube video, episode of a show, or fic im reading with the time of where i am in the video that i need to close so i can focus
plus it doubles as a catalog of stuff to do when Iâm bored!
then document is links to things i need open to do work or any slideshow links i get for school
and formulas are the formulas i always search for those classes like a wavelength formula or molar mass or smth!
my personal curse is the knowledge that I function best with rigid structure and strict routine but am almost totally incapable of independently establishing or maintaining that structure and routine
Donât forget this special feature: at the same time hating when people tell you what to do
I saw a video talking about why schools shouldn't grade or assign homework the other day (interesting video! I support a lot of what the speaker was saying!) But at one point word searches were described as obvious busywork - what's the point in teaching kids to read diagonal words, after all?
Diagnosing dyslexia. Diagnosing dyslexia. Diagnosing dyslexia.
After going through IB classes in high school, after finishing my BA while working full time, after failing algebra with the same teacher two years in a row, there is no kind of homework that has ever made me cry so hard as word searches did in the 3rd grade.
If you've got a kid who has been working on a word search for an hour and is crying and telling you "the words aren't there," if you've got a kid who never knows what the pictures are in connect-the-dots because they can't connect the dots in the correct order, if you've got a kid who can't read analog clock faces after months of being taught how to read time, if you've got a kid who retranscribes all their music class handouts as letters because they can't wrap their head around reading music, I'm begging you to get your kid tested for dyslexia/dyscalculia.
And I'm begging you to get them tested before they learn how to mask so hard that it's difficult to get an official diagnosis because if they need disability accommodations in college they're going to need a diagnosis but they're going to be so good at masking their disorder that it's going to be difficult to prove that they need accommodations. And 'well if you can get by well enough that as an adult you can pass a test designed to diagnose children you must not need help' is bullshit because those tests don't make you do algebra or learn a new character set.
Kid *sitting at the table with a book of sheet music for recorders open, carefully counting lines on the staff and then writing down a letter next to a line of letters in a spiral notebook, checking off the note, then carefully counting down the lines of the staff again*
Adult: Why are you making this so much harder on yourself? Just read the music.
Kid *stares into the camera like The Office the memorizes the fingering for a three minute piece of music so they can pretend to read along with the class*
LEARN TO RECOGNIZE THE SYMPTOMS OF LEARNING DISABILITIES, JERK. YOU'RE A COLLEGE PROFESSOR FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
Kid *counting a scheme of dots they've made up on a series of numbers to add the numbers*
Adult: Don't count, just add.
Kid *head rotates 360 degrees like in the exorcist*
Like. That's the thing. Nobody is helping you and they're telling you you're lazy and making excuse and to just work harder so you make up these little systems and mnemonics and you flex your right arm because that's the pledge of allegiance arm and you've memorized that so now you can tell left from right pretty quickly and you can count the dots on the numbers without moving your lips and you've memorized enough words that you can mostly read at a college level so you don't get told to "just sound it out" or "just look it up in the dictionary" all the time and you've got this just MASSIVE infrastructure going on under the surface to just get by and then you're thrown a monkey wrench like memorizing the quadratic equation or learning the IPA and it feels like you're climbing a mountain but everyone else is just walking along in the park and then one day you read the symptoms of dyscalculia and maybe have a little cry and you go to the disability office on campus and they show you a test and it's this tiny little hill that would have looked huge to you fifteen years ago but you've been climbing mountains for fifteen years and you realize that you have to keep climbing mountains only you could have had some ropes or some crampons but nope, you're just clinging to the rock by you're fingertips and looking at the rope you COULD have had if anyone had asked you "does this seem like a walk in the park or like a slog up a hill?" And believed your answer when you were ten.
I can read time *now.* if you give me a second and understand that I'll get it wrong the first time, at least, I cam tell you what the clock says NOW because I've had 30 years of getting made fun of over it and it's expected and people treat you like an idiot if you can't read a clock. So I can pass your test with the clocks NOW but there's a whole bunch of infrastructure that I need to make that happen and apparently most people don't need that? So can I have some help?
"Why would you need help? You can read time perfectly well."
And your brain is a Rube Goldberg machine full of marbles and dominoes and apparently other people can just add the numbers without setting up a chute and a counterweight but nobody told you that so you keep feeding ever more complicated inputs into your contraption and eventually it collapses and people are just like "if you could do geometry by hand algebra should be easy, you just aren't trying" and that's about when you decide that failure is an acceptable outcome, actually, and your parents are disappointed in your wasted potential forever after.
The End.
wait, other people do the dots on the numbers thing?? thatâs a Thing???
Uuuuuh, I thought those symptoms were of ADHD. What's the difference between dyslexia and ADHD? Or was it like, an era thing; kids in the '60s were dyslexic, kids in the '90s were ADHD because they developed drugs to make a 40 kid classroom manageable without hiring more staff in the '90s and effectively let teachers prescribe it?
There's significant overlap between people who have ADHD and people with dyslexia (I've got both) but ADHD has much broader symptoms than dyslexia (which is typically described as processing issues related to written language) because ADHD is an executive function disorder that comes with memory and motivation issues alongside a whole host of things like time blindness (non-ADHD people who have dyslexia are much more able to sense time even if they can't read it) and over/under stimulation.
And in spite of the narrative of "teachers drugged all the kids in the 90s" ADHD is significantly underdiagnosed, largely because the symptoms for the diagnostic criteria were the typical symptoms reported in hyperactive-type boys (boys with inattentive type ADHD were less likely to get diagnosed as children and girls with hyperactive symptoms are often criticized for being disruptive as chatterboxes instead of through physicality - boys with hyperactive type adhd are just most likely to present the kinds of symptoms that get them a diagnosis as well as detention, girls with both types and boys with inattentive type are more likely to be seen as minor discipline issues with inconsistent grades)
Also ADHD meds are speed. Kids who don't have ADHD tend to be taken off of them really quickly if they're misdiagnosed because neurotypical kids are *absolutely not* more manageable on adderal than off it but ADHD kids are more able to focus and emotionally self regulate.
if you've got a kid who retranscribes all their music class handouts as letters because they can't wrap their head around reading music, I'm begging you to get your kid tested for dyslexia/dyscalculia.
WAIT H OLD UP you mean to tell me this is a thing?>?????? are you freaking kidding me. 5 years of piano, 10 years of choir, and nobody thought that me being completely unable to read music was a thing that maybe should be looked at iâm
People REALLY donât talk about it.
It doesnât appear to be very well studied and people donât seem to take it seriously because theyâre like âwell of course kids think itâs hard to learn music, itâs like learning a new alphabetâ but apparently there are just a bunch of kids quietly writing âAAACDBE AAABBCC AAADCBEâ in their notebooks and singing the letters to the tune in their heads and playing along to that because they get told to just try harder (and then they do by literally retranscribing the music when no one is watching).
Also hey, while weâre here: If you were a kid or if you are an adult with âstupid handsâ and it takes hours and hours and hours of practice to learn how to fret one chord, like, more hours than it takes normal people, like youâve stopped playing guitar several times because you canât teach your stupid hands to play the guitar (or to make the signs, or to hold the crochet hook right, or to chop the onion) and youâre clumsy (though you might have fantastic reflexes sometimes - like you catch a random ball flying at your head out of nowhere and then trip over your own feet) look up âdyspraxia.â
(all of which is also strongly related to dysgraphia, which is difficulty writing)
I think part of the reason this and the "counting instead of adding" thing goes underdiagnosed is that the symptom presentation looks identical to how beginners without a disorder actually act.
People just learning to add learn by counting. People just learning music learn by going through the notes and writing down the letters above.
These behaviours don't look like a disorder at a glance, they look like someone stubbornly sticking to the beginner stage.
So okay my Honors Advanced Algebra II class.
I took the same math class from Mr. Nichols two years in a row. Zero period my sophomore year, Second period my junior year. If I wanted the IB diploma I had to take calculus before I graduated and I really wanted the IB diploma, so I had to pass Honors Advanced Algebra II.
The first year I got a C+ my first semester and a D+ (69.5%, câmon, you could have rounded up to a C-) my second semester.
The second year I came in to do homework before school started (my sister was in Band and Mr. Nichols got to school at 6:22 am* so I could sit in his class for 40 minutes all by myself and get help with my homework), I came into his classroom at lunch (to get help with some of the stuff that Iâd messed up on the homework anyway), and I made sure to do all the extra credit and make up every test I missed.
First Semester: B+ Second Semester: D+ (at exactly 69.5% again)
I ended up taking Mr. Nichols Basic Algebra I class in summer school to get the math credits I needed to graduate (112%!)
Mr. Nichols was super nice about this all, by the way, he really really wanted me to pass his class and he tried really really hard to help me but he was a dude who had graduated high school at 16, completed his BA in math by 20, and had an emergency credential by 21 - I think he was 23 when I was in his class the first time - that was not a teacher who was equipped with a strong background in pedagogy and a firm understanding of learning disabilities in students who were just a few years younger than he was.
I guess my point is that thereâs âstubbornly sticking atâ and thereâs âcompletely blocked byâ points in learning a skill and at some point the people who are teaching this stuff at least should be able to tell the difference.
âStudent who is uninterested in moving beyond the basics of this skillâ and âstudent who is spending three and a half hours on this skill each day and is not making progressâ are very separate things and I know music teachers and math teachers and reading teachers probably arenât seeing each kid that much and arenât able to give that much focused attention to each kid but this is on the parents too.
If your kid is working at a skill they are interested in and spending time on and they canât move forward thatâs the time to ask some questions instead of to tell your kid they canât carry a tune in a bucket.
*additional side note: if youâve got ADHD and are well known as a night owl look up âdelayed sleep phase disorderâ and do NOT use bendaryl as a sleep aid in the long term and also maybe generally can we talk about how having kids start school at 7am is fucked up and is absolutely devastating to kids with sleep disorders and thereâs no good way around it except homeschooling?
Oh they absolutely should be able to tell the difference, but for a variety of reasons lots of people just won't or aren't able to. So you end up with genuinely well intentioned people being just fucking awful about these disorders, with little interest in the critical thinking or self examination required to change.
...... Actually you know what Iâm coming at this at least partially backwards.
We should probably let KIDS know what symptoms of learning disabilities are and have them fill out a rubric once a year or something.
âThis is difficult for everyone else too, Iâm just especially bad at it and a failureâ is a lot easier to believe if youâre never presented with contrary evidence.Â
(which, I mean, of course you have to set aside the whole culture of ableism and let kids know itâs safe to ask for help and make it ACTUALLY safe to ask for help and prevent situations where bullying can happen and destigmatize different learning styles, but if you do all of THAT, then teaching kids to look for their symptoms is probably a method of attacking this issue)

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other peoples laughter is sweet as nectar and ambrosia... call that acceptance sensitive euphoria
wait a minute.
Cant invent shit w ADHD đ
*feels both âI am so bored & understimulated I want to do EVERYTHING!â and âI am so exhausted & overwhelmed I canât do ANYTHINGâ at the same time*