since you said you know some of the protesters, do you have any idea what they were thinking or trying to do? not that I have any particular investment, just gawking at events in the metaphorical village.
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I mean honestly the news articles basically have the whole story at this point. They were protesting CFAR. They even had flyers!
“CFAR does not do remotely what they claim to do on their website: they do not appreciably develop novel rationality/mental tech,” the flyer claimed. “CFAR’s founding premise (that people were blocked in having the tools to think) was falsified long ago.”
I’m not sure what else to add, here. I guess it’s relevant that Ziz has been crusading against CFAR for a while now. I think this is the post she’s been mostly trying to spread:
https://sinceriously.fyi/net-negative/
The worst accusations are that Anna Salamon gave some bad advice, and also that CFAR botched an employment contract and got into a pay dispute at some point? I’m trying to be somewhat vague because many of my sources say a lot of the specifics of the accusations are wrong, so I don’t want to spread them, but they should be in the link if you really want to know.
yeah I guess I’m just kinda stuck wondering, what were they thinking? who was the target of the protest? who thought that was a good slogan to put on a flyer? why guy fawkes masks? were they really blocking the road?
anyway if I had to guess they probably are getting in relatively more trouble because the cops don’t want to to look like fools for having brought out swat and bomb squad and locked everybody down for hours over this.
On the one hand, I think a lot of CFAR is bunk, and a bunch of CFAR stuff feels like it works, but like PUA, it doesn’t work for the reasons it claims it does.
But this protest seems just bizarre. If the masks and their 4chan connotation are any indication, it’s meant to be bizarre, to make CFAR look bizarre by association.
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I feel like you’re thinking about this too hard.
Nova managed to get a copy of the pamphlet:
https://archive.nova.noblejury.com/ziz/ziz-pamphlet-transcript.pdf
At least to me, it reads kinda timecubey. I don’t mean that in a bad way; I think it’s plausible that there’s a real point even if I have trouble following it, but I also think that their bizarreness and inscrutableness is just who they are, rather than a calculated attempt to bring down CFAR by association.
Well, the bizarreness is one sentence above the cut, and there are many paragraphs of uncharitable psychologising below. Kind of weird you took issue with that part TBH.
Doubly so because I am rambling incoherently this month and skipping the “edit sober” part in favour of “re-read when sober and remove the most obvious types plus three paragraphs in the middle“.
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