this is so simple I can’t believe I’ve never thought of it before but has anyone ever tried to show a relationship between involuntary treatment and outcomes at the population level by comparing different states? Like if involuntary treatment (inpatient and outpatient) worked you would expect to see less suicides, less overall mortality and better quality of of life for people with smi in states with more aggressive involuntary treatment laws. There are so many factors it’d hard to prove a causal relationship but not even an attempt at looking for correlation?

I think my dad used to have munchausens by proxy with his printer because it broke constantly and he would always call my oldest brother to come fix it cause otherwise he never came over. Then they would get in a half hour screaming fight over politics and my brother would leave.