Crystal Groves System

i think we should bring this back (with some amendments ofc) if we ever needed an "internet etiquette" for the younger generations, now is the moment to remind them. purity culture kills fandom

as well as the three laws of fandom:

The first time he cheated death, Sisyphus had just angered Zeus by revealing the location of the Asopid Aegina whom Zeus abducted. Which is super valid, fuck Zeus.

Sisyphus knew that Zeus would send the god of death Thanatos after him, so he prepared a trap and trapped Thanatos in the chains meant for him.

After that, nothing on Earth was able to die so long as Thanatos was in chains. Which meant no animals could be sacrificed to the gods. This angered the gods, who made Sisyphus' life so miserable with pain and illness that he would beg for death. And so he released Thanatos.

But then came the second time Sisyphus cheated death. As he was dying, he asked his wife to dump his naked corpse in the middle of the public square. Denied a proper burial, his soul ended up on the far side of the river Styx, unable to cross.

He complained to Hades and Persephone about how his wife disrespected him, and begged them to let him return briefly to the world of the living to scold her and make her bury him properly. They agreed, and Sisyphus returned to life. He then embraced his wife, and refused to return to the Underworld.

It's only when he finally died of old age that he was sent to Tartarus and punished with the boulder.

I don't remember where I've seen it, but I like the interpretation that Sisyphus doesn't have to push the boulder. He can choose to stay in Tartarus and rest. But he was promised that if he managed to push the boulder to the top of the mountain, he'll ascend to Elysium.

And Sisyphus, in his stubbornness and cleverness, refuses to give up on a challenge.

What is Concordia?

Concordia is a planned plural-focused app being developed through The Concordia Project.

The goal of Concordia is to provide tools that help plural systems organise and manage system information, similar to apps like Simply Plural. This may include things like system member profiles, front tracking, journals, switching notifications and internal messaging – as well as providing accessible information resources and communities.

But with Simply Plural shutting down, I want to give my honest opinion and speculation. Forgive me if I seem a bit unhinged, but I need to get this out, as I'm incredibly upset that something that has been helping with my disability is basically being stripped away.

While I can use Ampersand (as it has an Android app, but sadly not iOS), this does not have the feature I used Simply Plural for. I used Simply Plural to alert my partner systems and my friends of who was front and for mood tracking. With Ampersand, I can't do that. And no alternatives have this feature, aside from potentially Octocon.

While I am a traumagenic system, I happen to "system-hop", between my side system and main system. That was banned on Octocon as even topics of discussion. There were people who were banned for simply existing as endogenic systems on this app. This proves that the dev team and/or owner were seeking out profiles with things they personally disagreed with and banned them for no reason, which is something you have to agree to in order to use the app.

I do not trust a dev team and owner that treats their userbase in such a way, and since I am a programmed DID system, meaning my system is almost entirely traumagenic in origin, it is not a safe space for me due to how my system operates, as well as the fact that I am pro-endogenic and do not discriminate other system origins in any way. I do not want to be on an app where simply expressing my support for those who are of different origins can get me banned.

On another point, I'm very skeptical of how Amaryllis has decided to handle this situation. I took the time to archive (link) the blog post. I will be using They/Them for Amaryllis, as I'm not sure of their pronouns, and the second someone tells me their preferred, I will edit this post to reflect their proper pronouns.

Anyways, my points.

Simply Plural brought about Simply Plus (link) in November of 2025. This was four months ago. I also had this archived (link).

Now, as someone who uses Simply Plural rather consistently, I didn't even know of this. If it were the finances, well, I'm sure they could have pushed Simply Plus a bit better? Why set up a premium subscription and then sunset the app less than half a year later? This... Really doesn't sit well with me.

I also want to point out that The Plural Association (link) was helping support them, as were other people donating to them, as referenced in their Simply Plus (link) post, which I archived (link).

I also want to point out that... On their patreon (link), they have 136 paid members and you can see their tiers here (link), as well as my archive (link). Since Archives don't let you move around, I also want to point out that their highest price is $31.

I want to point out that, if my math is correct, on the lowest tier, if 136 people are paying $3.50 a month to support Simply Plural, that's about $476 a month. That's the lowest possible income from their patreon alone.

And that's not pointing out their Simply Plus (link) and archive (link), which has a similar pay system.

Then, the claims of being a single person running the app in the "Simply Plural is being Discontinued" post.

But this is... Blatantly untrue? In their release of 1.8 (link), they said you could reach out to their team on Discord. I also archived (link) this.

Why would you make such a claim? When you completely contradict yourself.

And of course, I can't speak for this, but apparently, the Simply Plural Discord has basically shut down any discussion or cries for help. When Octocon has drawn criticism for being disingenuous about their "change of heart" to be "neutral" to non-trauma systems, messages were deleted and users were told "don't bring that here." when it is a very reasonable concern.

The sudden push to move to Octocon from the Discontinued post feels very off, considering the above factors.

I also want to point out... They say its not fees that are the problem, but rather their won personal time... But they have a dev team with them, do they not?

Why not just hand it over to another person in your team?

Not only that, but the "We'll keep it up longer if you give us money, but it'll come down eventually" is extremely fishy.

I'm not buying this "I'm a single person (who has a dev team) and I'm getting burnt out". Especially with the seeming hesitation to make the code open source for people to make their own Simply Plural apps.

This is incredibly frustrating because for many people, Simply Plural is not just an app. It is an Aid. A disability aid. An accessibility aid. Taking away Simply Plural with absolutely no alternatives that meet the same needs is akin to taking away my cane and not giving me a viable replacement in case my knee decides to partially dislocate in public again.

Every user SHOULD be angry and upset about this, especially with the seeming refusal to allow others to make a new app and instead ushering them to an app that has a turbulent history within the system community itself, that has made itself known to be unsafe for users that disagree with it's creator.

one after another thing.