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Kinda related to this, I will also note that Gooseworx is also someone who has not shown any sign of regret for her past actions, specifically the racist things she said. In fact, she barely addressed them. She made a really weak lackluster apology ("I'm sorry for everything I've said on streams," didn't even address a lot of the other stuff) after waiting a few days, sitting back, and doing nothing while Black fans in her community were being harassed for being "uppity." The only time she actually made a statement was a stupid joke statement about how racists should shoot themselves, again, after the controversy had moved into real life because of Plainrock.

Max Gilardy was not just "edgy", he was someone who drew racist carichatures involving racial slurs and then harass black people that would take offence with that. He had so many nword moments, even in recent memory (the now deleted gold digger tweet. It was an unfinished rhyme. You get the rest) that it is hard to even remember them all. He has only stopped actively engaging with right wing accounts, drawing tasteless political cartoons and posting an image of a fleshlight titled "ideal woman" within what, the last 2 years? Way after he has supposedly "regretted his past and apologised". Or when he made a blatantly racist depiction of Shigeru Miyamoto for his video about joycon drift complete with a slit eyes and a violently racist accent.

And are you serious? "He's racist" "Well I only heard that he's a zionist" Yeah that's what I said.

Remember when he made a blatantly racist depiction of Shigeru Miyamoto for his video about joycon drift complete with a slit eyes and a violently racist accent? That was in *2021*, years after his supposed change for the better

Or the fact that his Apu video is to this day used to shut up both racialised Voice Actors speaking out against racism in the industry (like ProZD, who to this day receives harassment for that very reason) as well as many minorities speaking out against racist stereotypes in popular media (primarily those from India)

And yet despite all that all he really had to do to clean his image was literally redesign his sona to be more goofy and make a cartoon show where he has fun with his ghost buddy.

"And are you serious? 'He's racist' 'Well I only heard that he's a zionist' Yeah that's what I said." If you meant to say he was a Zionist, which I already knew, that's what you would've said. Zionists are racists, but all racists aren't Zionists. Because I know most people would've said Zionist if they wanted to refer to him as a Zionist, my assumption was that you were referring to other instances of racism, not his Zionism. Still, my bad.

I also, explicitly, did not say that Gooseworx is not getting enough pushback. That's a brand new sentence. I said she, as in Gooseworx, has not done enough to rectify her wrongdoings. My focus is strictly on Gooseworx and the actions she took; not once did I talk about other people's reactions to her at all outside of the hate blog being bad. The actions she takes (or doesn't take) and how people react to them are different concepts, the latter being something that I do not intend to predict. So I ask you to decouple those concepts, and to engage with what I'm actually saying, not make up brand new sentences that I never even hinted at. These concepts are not inextricably linked. I could've been writing this, totally in agreement with you that Gooseworx has seen too much pushback and that people need to give her room to make up for what she did.

And that's because I wanted to be that person when I first heard about this. I actually wanted to be forgiving, and I'm partly writing this out of disappointment in Gooseworx that she couldn't even do that bare minimum. I still remember waiting for her to say something, anything, when people were attacking Black fans in the community for their beliefs. So, until I say "she needs more pushback," you have no grounds to say I believe Gooseworx is not getting enough pushback.

But, I do, and I'm confused as to why you think her lackluster responses to her own racism should not receive pushback. And that's why I want to ask what your primary concern is. Is it for Gooseworx to be held accountable by an upset public in a reasonable manner? Is it for people to have consistent standards? Or is it to not criticize Gooseworx at all because she's just a wittle baby? Because I wanted to think it was the 2nd option, but your response to my criticisms of Gooseworx being "a claim that actually the trans woman isnt getting enough pushback for her past actions," while constantly avoiding addressing Goose's own actions and inaction is making me lean towards the 3rd option. Why don't you want to talk about what Gooseworx actually did?

I'm still right to criticize you for assuming how I feel about her actions. It's bad form in discussions like this. But you're right that I think the level of pushback she has received is not enough given how little accountability she is willing to take. I want to see people talking about this until she and all the other people you have mentioned, like OneyPlays, Game Grumps, Max, and maybe Dropout (though I don't know what they did) are actually apologetic and actually do something to fix it. Pushback is not the same thing as harassment, hate fandoms, and "snark communities," and me criticizing Gooseworx for what she did does not mean that I want to funnel attention towards unproductive hate sinks that, frankly, aren't even good at their job and make wildly misleading, bullshit claims. Nor will I let other people off the hook.

Yes, by this point, I'd say I have contempt for her. Should I, a Black person, not have contempt for someone who can't even do the bare minimum in owning up for her actions, when I have literally outlined how bare the bare minimum is? She couldn't even do that? Seriously? In this world, respect is earned.

What about my tags? My tags are mirroring the tags that the original poster was using, tags that the original poster has been using since before I even started.

2. Sorry. I don't really believe you're black since a lot of people just say that on the internet to keep a discourse going since they believe that gives them more credibility.

Just say you don't respect black people at all. Calling out racism should not warrant this level of sweeping.

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