So I'm not trying to start anything with anyone I just want to preface this ask with that. But I heard from a friend that apparently the pan flag creator supports all kink at pride. But I'm trying to look for receipts on this and I"m not finding much of anything. What do you think of this situation? I'm a little lost tbh
so every year now around june thereâs âdiscourseâ about whether or not there is a place for kink at pride. itâs been a hot topic this month, and jasper, like everyone else, weighed in. they arenât against kink at pride. people took issue with that.
and for the sake of not going back and forth with anyone about this topic, iâm going to say some stuff and that will be it, because iâve talked it to death on twitter, i have no interest in doing that on here too. (please note that this is not a rant directed at you, genderfluidlucifer)
so itâs important to know what is actually being referred to when people say kink belongs at pride. weâre (yes, i agree that kink belongs at pride) talking about communities who have always been a part of pride, that have played important roles in queer history.
we are not talking about people fucking in the middle of pride, or sexually harassing or assaulting people, or walking around naked shoving their genitals or the sex toys theyâre currently using in peopleâs faces.
those are the bad faith takes people are assuming weâre supporting. people are genuinely arguing against those things, as if anyone is actually advocating for them. and the exact same thing happened in previous years.
not only does that show how quick people are to assume queer people are sexual predators, but it also shows how little they know about kink and pride history.
the quote retweets iâve seen jasper get because of this topic range from ridiculous bad faith assumptions to more calls for a new pan flag to personal insults to accusations of pedophilia.
thatâs not an appropriate response to an acknowledgement of prideâs history and a lack of desire to kick people out who have been there and have done important work for the community.
and something that is very forgotten in this âdiscourseâ is that there isnât one singular pride event. there are many, all over the place, and theyâre all different. some are family friendly, some are focused around kids/teens, some are alcohol free, some are kink inclusive or focused, some allow nudity/near nudity, some are 18+, some have alcohol, etc. etc. etc.
every pride event is not for everyone. people need to be doing the research to find out what a pride event is like and what it includes to make an informed decision about whether or not theyâd be okay to go to it. and if it isnât, they can then find one they can attend.
instead of thinking every pride event ever should cater to your specific triggers or squicks or ideas of whatâs âacceptable in publicâ or whatever else, and then getting angry and self righteous and queerphobic when they donât.
itâs also worth noting that a lot of the arguments people are using are hypocritical, such as the claims about not wanting kids to see near nudity or anything sexually suggestive, but having no criticism of beaches or musical festivals or any general pda from non-queer people. itâs interesting how the claims of being sexually perverted are saved only for queer people.
and a lot of the arguments are just recycled homophobia. arguments like, âthink of the childrenâ and âi support you, i just donât want to see itâ and âkeep it in the bedroom, i donât need to know about your sex lifeâ sound a little familiar, donât they?
anyways i think thatâs all. basically, people are attacking and harassing and trying to âcancelâ jasper again over fucking nothing.
thereâs more said and discussed on this topic in the threads and tweets iâve shared on twitter, if anyone is interested. and this article is always handy: https://www.them.us/story/kink-bdsm-leather-pride


























