Assassination is, historically at least, one of those things that tends not to be terribly effective as a political tool unless there's a sympathetic political apparatus already in place to capitalize on the moment, at which point it arguably stops being an assassination and starts being a coup.
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I didn't experience DARE as a kid. My older brother did, but by the time I hit the correct age, the school board had gotten into some sort of kerfuffle with DARE and axed the program. The replacement program that had been hastily rolled out was called NOVA, and it was created entirely by the city police department. From what I can gather, DARE seems like it was limited to ineffectual anti-drug stuff. NOVA was far more comprehensive in its whinging. Mostly, it consisted of a uniformed officer coming in once a week to lecture us for an hour or so about whatever moral panics were fashionable at the time.
Obviously, there was the classic "drugs will melt your brain and turn you into an evil criminal" lecture, but the NOVA officer would also explain how violent video games would brainwash you into becoming a thrill-killing spree sniper, how listening to popular music would hypnotize you into doing drugs and being a violent sex offender, and how the only thing preventing the total collapse of society was the police. I remember at least one tearful tirade about how the release of Halo 2 was a sign of the apocalypse.
Our particular officer also loved telling irrelevant stories about times when he threw his weight around as a cop and how cool it was to be able to beat up bad people and arrest them.
Antisemitism is an existential threat to all humanity, but I understand that it's somewhat gauche to talk about how easily it is able to be repurposed and redirected when it's actively making life miserable for Jews right now without any repurposing whatsoever. I think the reason why I want to talk about it through this lens anyway is because, depressingly, rising antisemitism being demonstrably awful for a specific minority group is evidently not doing much to spur anyone else into action, so maybe recognizing it as a matter of self-preservation will.
Now I'm not exactly a fan of "original sin" style arguments generally, and I'm doubly dubious when they're brought up in a historical context. There's no singular original flavor of discrimination and bigotry from which all others are descended. That said, antisemitism has a very long history, and Jews have existed as a highly visible minority population throughout Eurasia and the Mediterranean for long enough that a rather unique level of xenophobia has accumulated around them. This foundation of hatred has been repeatedly leveraged throughout history to mobilize people against their Jewish neighbors in service of various political projects. Everywhere Jews have been dispersed to has (to one degree or another) seen unscrupulous and power-hungry individuals draw from this deep well of historical hate to build petty fiefdoms on the backs and bodies of Jewish suffering.
Again, just to reiterate, the main thing that sucks about antisemitism is that it kills and oppresses Jews. That's a terrible, terrible thing. It should, ideally, be enough to get people to go out and do something when the Jews in their communities express fear or open up about experiencing antisemitism. It clearly isn't, so that brings us to the second worst thing antisemitism does: it acts as a strategic reserve of highly adaptable bigotry.
Charlottesville shocked a lot of people. Not everyone, mind you. There were plenty of folks who were plenty familiar with the hateful underbelly of America, but for a lot of the rest, it seemed like a whole mess of neo-nazis had apparently materialized out of thin air, and, despite the fact that basically everyone interviewed in conjunction with the event expressed overt and extreme anti-black and anti-LGBT bigotry, the chant the event would become known for was "jews will not replace us". Why is that?
I frequently say that antisemitism is the bedrock of conspiracy belief. The nebulous "they" in "they don't want you to know the truth" is always, always steeped in antisemitic trappings and imagery. Jew hatred in all its historical monstrosity acts as a blueprint for constructing new hate movements, and Antisemitic bigotry is capable of fueling a truly staggering array of unrelated bigotries. If you want to instantly paint a target on a particular group, all you need to do is gesture in the vague direction of "the Jews," and suddenly, there's an entire shadowy conspiracy that must be opposed at all costs.
A significant part of why there is such a strong opposition to trans rights in the US and why anti-trans rhetoric so frequently invokes fears of deception and the victimization of children is because it's been built on a skeleton of antisemitism. Antivax, opposition to public education, white supremacy, Qanon, and basically every other hate movement in recent memory have used existing antisemitism and the conspiracy beliefs built on it as a springboard to quickly build political coalitions.
Let's Watch Libertarian Propaganda for Children for Some Reason
Hey everybody, look, it’s the Tuttle Twins!
Yeah, there they are. Zooping around on their time machine.
The Tuttle Twins is a streaming show from Angel Studios, the independent studio behind Sound of Freedom and various Christian and Christian-Adjacent movies. They’ve got some movie about Jesus out right now.
No, you can’t- The Buddy Christ thing isn’t- You don’t-
Anyway, although I first heard about this cartoon from a youtube channel called “Fundie Fridays” The Tuttle Twins isn’t a Christian propaganda cartoon, it’s a Libertarian propaganda cartoon.
One that teaches kids how to buy Bitcoin!
After watching just the episode about Bitcoin, I wanted to watch and talk about some more episodes. And I sketched out a bit of an intro explaining what Libertarianism is in the minds of the people who created this show, but then I had a second thought.
“Am I just describing a straw-man libertarianism? Am I just paraphrasing these ideas in a way that I find easy to refute? Have I become the very Tuttle Twins I was trying to defeat?"
And then I watched the very first episode and their description of what they believe is pretty much word for word how I was going to explain it.
And hey, they put that episode up on youtube, we can watch it together!
(You can also watch season 1 and 2 and most of 3 for free on their slightly wonky app or web site, but there are a few full episodes on youtube as well)
Or you could skip it and read my amazing summary below!
Anyway, after a brief cold open that sees the twins hurtling through dimensions, and a pretty cute gag we cut to our entrepreneurial twins selling lemonade. The science-minded Emily is using it fund a trip to science camp, and Ethan is using it to fund his purchase of an enormous gummy bear.
Until, that is, they are confronted by Karinne.
Likes: Fiat Currency, Communism, sweater vests. Dislikes: Freedom
I gotta be honest, I don’t totally get Karinne, she’s kind of a foil or frenemy for the main characters, and she comes off kind of preppy coded, sort of the snobbish rich kid used to getting what she wants, but y’all are libertarians, you shouldn’t be shaming her for the fact that her parents are Randian producers.
Honestly I am eternally fascinated by kids show characters whose job is to be constantly wrong, but after watching a few episodes I don’t really have a clear read on her. Sometimes she tags along on an adventure and acts as an ideological foil for the kids, but so far I've seen her argue for fiat currency, religious intolerance, the NSA, and using the power of the president for self-enrichment. So... Uh... Not the raging communist I was lead to expect, put it that way.
Also there is a running joke for the first season where people keep pronouncing her name “Karen” and I don’t know if the joke is she’s supposed to be kind of a Karen in the slang sense? But honestly when I picture the kind of mother who would show this show to her kids… People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, that’s all I’m saying.
Anyway, it turns out Karinne is the president of the “Cul-de-sac Kids Club” and last night she held a meeting to amend the laws of the kids club to allow the president to have as much lemonade as she wants, so she has some lackeys just cart away all of the lemonade, leaving our heroes without a way to earn money in the glorious American free market economy, what with the means of production having been confiscated and all.
The good news, though, is that Grandma is moving in! Along with her pet, and very specifically not tame raccoon Derek, who was banned from her previous dwelling by the HOA because, quote, “HOAs are full of communists”. Someone should put that on a shirt and sell plush toys of that raccoon.
I do enjoy the fact that her first impulse on hearing that Karinne is going to confiscate the lemonade is to slingshot a bar of soap at her head:
Don’t worry, she doesn’t actually assault a child.
Anyway, that night as the twins are lamenting the loss of they hear the noise of an acetylene welding torch coming from their grandmother’s room.
It turns out she made her mobility scooter into a gadget-laden time machine, so our show has a premise now. Huzzah!
After a series of actually pretty good gags, the kids end up in France, 1848 to meet with Frédéric Bastiat, who I was not previously aware of but who appears to be one of the founding figures of modern libertarian ideology.
Apparently American politics these days are all your fault you french son of a gun. Also wow they drew your hand wrong in this frame.
And he describes what I was going to describe about the libertarian moral foundations of this show.
“My book is about the idea that laws should protect our God-given rights or ‘Natural rights’. Having rights means there are some things you can do, and nobody is allowed to stop you!”
Specifically, rights to life, to liberty (Meaning the right to do what we want so long as it doesn’t take away another person’s rights) and to own property.
And to be clear, and this is explained later in the episode, these are very negative rights. The role of the government is not to ensure that you have any specific amount of property, liberty or life. Rather, you have to gather as much as you are able by your own lights, and the government’s sole role is to prevent other people from taking whatever property you have or abrogating your liberties or killing you.
Does that mean that taxation for the public good is the same as theft?
You betcha, which is what we learn in the next part of the show. A part which is largely so boring that I can't be bothered to screencap it.
The time machine runs out of “Knowledge Juice” and strands them in an Old West Town. Knowledge Juice is the fuel for the time machine, it’s a green goo that goes down when they travel through time, and up when they explain that they’ve learned something. And it’s a plot device that I think they eventually get rid of just because it gets kind of redundant.
Actually I’ll just sort of go over the formula of the show.
The kids have some more or less relatable real world problem;
Grandma takes them back in time to meet a historical figure who tells them about some libertarian principle;
On the way back the time machine runs out of knowledge juice in some fantastical situation;
The kids solve the situation using their new libertarian knowledge;
They refill the knowledge juice reserves by explaining what they learned;
They then go back home and use what they learned to solve their ordinary kid problem.
Just from a story structure perspective the part where they refill the knowledge juice is extremely redundant; It would be more elegant to just have them explain the lesson to the other kids when they solve their problem at the end of the episode. I think eventually they figured that out.
Arguably, if you really wanted to condense things you’d have the kids go on a historical adventure with the historical figure, then come back to the present and explain what they learned and apply it to their current situation, but the reason they have sections 3 and 4 is because those are usually where the crazy cartoon stuff comes in, they end up in some alternate fantasy dimension or shrunk down and fighting a worm war, or something fun like that.
Except for this pilot episode, where parts 3-5 just take place in a generic old west town. Not really starting with a bang honestly.
Basically, the Sheriff fights off two cattle rustling bandits, who then return in the guise of tax men, taking cows away from an innocent rancher to use for business subsidies and charity, which isn’t fair because the law is supposed to protect her property, and anyway the rancher gives cows to charity sometimes already.
Since taxation is theft, the kids lobby to get the laws changed, and after an amusing title card that says,
The whole town has voted to repeal the taxes and they capture the rustlers, huzzah!
Anyway, the Tuttle Twins go back home, and call an emergency meeting of the Cul-de-sac kids club to hold a vote to repeal the law that allows the President to have as much lemonade as she wants. Of course, the vote goes their way…
Which is when Karinne reveals her trump card, which is that the club by-laws allow the President a unilateral veto over any proposed amendments to the club rules.
Furthermore, she points out that the Kids Club is not a government organization, but a private one which is simply a contractual relationship that the twins entered freely. And since the government’s job is to enforce contracts and protect private property, the twins will be arrested if they try to violate the contract by taking any of Karinne’s honestly earned lemonade.
Yeah kids, that’s right. Have grandma teleport you back to talk to Murray Rothbard, he’ll explain it to you.
Okay okay I made all that up. I'll stop arguing politics with a children's cartoon.
They successfully overturn the rule but give everybody in the club a glass of lemonade on the house anyway to show there’s no hard feelings.
So, this episode is not that out there. Something I can’t get across in summary is that there are a lot of classic cartoon gags, and a lot of them land. I’ve watched a few episodes of this show now and smiled at a lot of gags and laughed out loud once or twice. As much as I don’t agree with a lot of the ideology behind it it’s not something that was tossed out there.
The animation quality of any given shot varies quite a lot, but there is some attention to the animation, visual gags and comedy timing as well as some funny writing. This isn’t a half-assed scam or complete amateur nonsense, this is clearly made by people who are trying to make something genuinely good outside of its propaganda purpose.
That said, I obviously have some issues with the show.
Honestly going in I thought my biggest problem with this show would be ideological disagreement. And don’t get me wrong, there’s some stuff in this show that I strongly disagree with, but there are quite a few episodes with perfectly fine messages. There’s an episode where they get into a prank war at science camp and eventually it starts wrecking the science projects so Ghandi teaches them about de-escalation. Rosa Parks talks about civil disobedience and how sometimes you should disobey unjust laws, but you should always be aware of the consequences beforehand and think carefully about how and when you should do it. There’s an episode where they talk about respecting different religious traditions and how the government shouldn’t mandate or prevent any religion.
I agree with all of that, even if some of that is something that kids won’t really get to put into practice much.
My big problem is that even though there are gags in the historical parts, this show suffers a problem that a lot of educational shows do, which is that it feels like it stops dead to lecture you about something and you have to just sit through that until the fun bits start up again. The historical figures tend to be heavily simplified in a way that some people might object to, but I think the bigger issue is that this simplification makes their stories less compelling.
You’re not so much living through a recreation of the exciting things the historical figures did so much as listening to them talk about what they did. It’s a real “tell, don’t show” approach that makes about a third of every episode really kind of dull unless it’s one of the episodes where what they’re telling you is batshit crazy.
So if you’re going to watch it for camp value, I really don’t recommend starting with the first episode or trying to watch it in order, I’d just scan the episode summaries and watch one that sounds crazy to you. There are at least two that try to sell Bitcoin to children. There’s a few genuinely bananas episodes and ideas to gawk at if you’re into that kind of thing like I am, but there’s a lot of fairly bland episodes.
And talking about how viewers will view the show…
I have had to accept in my heart that I have no idea who this show is made for.
It has a lot of parallels to American Christian pop culture programs, but like, okay, so right-wing American Christians have built this entire parallel media ecosystem because they’re paranoid that Hollywood secularists are going to corrupt their kids with secularism and paganism. I knew a guy once who said when he was a kid his parents made him stop watching Tiny Tunes because they saw one of the characters meditating, but that’s okay, he could still watch McGee and Me.
Now, I don’t agree with that kind of strict parental thought control, it is at least internally consistent. A lot of parts of the Bible are about devout Godly people being corrupted by worldly concerns or religious apostasy, going at least back to the worship of the Golden Calf in Exodus. And the right wing Christians who are worried about media corruption think any deviation from their theology is a threat to a person’s immortal soul.
So the impulse to shield your child from any media that even slightly questions or contradicts your own views isn’t good, but at least it’s theologically consistent and in keeping with the Bible.
Meanwhile, if you find yourself saying, “As a staunch libertarian and tireless advocate for personal freedom, I believe in strictly controlling what my children are allowed to watch or think.” Like…
You know come on and think for a second about what you’ve just said.
The kind of paranoia about controlling your children’s worldview that would make someone want to watch this really doesn’t seem to me to be in keeping with, well, uh, the actual values espoused in the show.
So I kind of don’t know how to feel about it. Personally, I would never expose a child to this on purpose unless they were old enough to ask some very critical questions about what they were hearing.
On the other hand, when I imagine the kind of person who is going to show this to their kids… I kind of almost wonder if most of the other stuff those kids are seeing is a lot worse. I can kind of imagine a very earnest child taking this stuff seriously enough to start questioning some controlling parent or religious authority.
So I really just don’t know. If anybody has any insight into the culture of the people who watch this kind of thing, I’d be really curious.
Ah, Angel Studios. Where to begin? Wikipedia says 2014 was the public launch of VidAngel, which was these (mormon) guys' initial business venture. Basically, you could buy a DVD copy of a movie or TV show that had a series of customizable censorship filters (profanity, nudity, violence, etc.) applied to it for $20, and then you could either keep it or sell it back within 24 hours for $19. Naturally, they got sued into bankruptcy in 2016 by a coalition of major studios (they claimed fair use, because since you had to enable at least one filter on any of "their" content, it counted as transformative.) They mostly operated as a local alternative to Netflix in Utah during this initial run. Their public perception among fellow Mormons was mostly positive, as most saw them as performing an invaluable service by enabling faithful latter-day saints to watch popular media without needing to hear any cussing. A few saw them as con-artists who were running a massive piracy operation and tempting otherwise righteous church members into engaging with worldly media by offering "clean" versions that were still haunted by the conspicuous absence of the removed elements.
During and after the lawsuit, VidAngel started diversifying their offerings. Dry Bar, their live standup show, offered a profanity and innuendo-free alternative to popular comedians. They offered their filter technology as a standalone subscription service that could be applied to other streaming platforms (though, hilariously, not the ones belonging to the studios suing them), and they split Angel Studios into its own label so that they wouldn't lose any of their original content (basically just the Dry Bar stuff at this point) to the looming bankruptcy. They then started building a library of predominantly faith-based films and local vanity projects and eventually branched out into true original content. And now we're roughly caught up to the present.
So, first of all, why does Tuttle Twins exist? Well, the simple answer is that Bluey fucking exploded into a multi-billion dollar intellectual property, and now everyone and their dog (heh) is trying to make the next one. The more complicated answer is that it's because Tuttle Twins already existed. The Tuttle Twins book series is written by a local (also mormon) guy from Lehi, and every book is an attempt to introduce kids to foundational and contemporary libertarian and conservative texts. A child-friendly version of 12 Rules for Life is there, alongside Leviathan and Atlas Shrugged. I haven't read them, but I'm really hoping that Karl Marx gets to be their time-traveling nemesis, and they have to go back in time to prevent him from unionizing the ancient Egyptians so that the pyramids still get built or something.
Anyway, a preexisting book series for anxious parents who want to combat "woke indoctrination" or whatever is perfect for adapting into an animated series. Utah also has a surprisingly robust animation industry
Damn it, I hit post on accident before I could finish. Ah well. Continued, I guess:
Utah's past animation projects have involved a number of former Disney animators, and even big names like Don Bluth have ties to the local scene (fun fact: one of the theater professors at UVU has a Land Before Time character named after him). The combination of BYU having a surprisingly prestigious animation program and the state's weak labor laws means that it's historically been relatively cheap (for the US at least) to produce animation projects.
One side effect of the current culture war stuff is that children's media is being examined (or at the very least "examined") really closely, and one of the right-wing takeaways has been that maybe all of the 'be nice and share' messaging you see in Sesame Street inevitably leads to communism later in life, and therefore children's media should be focusing on promoting values that aren't as easily "co-opted" by the left.
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Is it a ‘religion a good and vital part of the Human Condition but on gods the actions people take with theism as a cause can be heedlessly horrifying’ kinda deal for the antitheism
Ehhhh I take issue with the idea that religion is somehow inherent to the human experience. Plenty of folks are born atheist and die atheist after a lovely and fulfilling life.
Like, I don't think religion is good or bad, it's just one of the many possible gears in human culture. Sure it's often used to justify oppressive power structures, but so is like, the printing press. Painting religion as a unique evil seems just as reductive as painting it as a unique good.
It's the Belief that troubles me. At a certain point it just feels like lying to people. At a certain point you just have to accept that no, the earth is not 6000 years old. But that doesn't mean you gotta stop going to church yk? Hanging out with your neighbors to sing old songs can be fun. Nothing wrong with that.
I feel like there are ways in which spirituality is generally given a pass on a societal level that makes it uniquely dangerous in a number of ways, but whether that is due to its innate characteristics or its interactions with external factors is up for debate. I don't think that mocking and insulting people for holding non-evidentiary beliefs is necessarily productive or anything, but I do think that establishing a universal baseline for socially acceptable blasphemy is vitally important for any number of reasons.
If you're going to argue that Trump is purely the result of economic factors, you need to explain why similar or worse levels of poverty, starvation, etc didn't lead to Trump before, or why better economic conditions and investments in manufacturing etc 2021-24 resulted in Trump again.
You can, of course, insist that 24 was the nadir of poverty and that people were worse off than ever, or you can look at actual data and realize that's wrong
Before you bring in a handful of anecdotes about people being poor, consider: did poverty suddenly appear from nowhere in 2015? Were there, in fact, poor people before then?
If so, what is the difference between then and now?
Maybe, just maybe, the whole reason propaganda matters at all is that people act on more than just the pure level of material goods they can access. Maybe there's something going on with what they believe, and why they believe it.
There's this little rhetorical two-step I've seen where anything that demonstrably influences someone's decision-making is automatically awarded "material conditions" status. Someone acting according to an erroneous understanding of the world in a way that directly, demonstrably worsens their material conditions is merely an unwitting pawn being used to consciously advance someone else's material interests, even when they are adamant that their reasoning comes from a place of sincere belief.
It's not that I'm nostalgic for the days when conspiracy belief was "harmless" or anything; anyone who has actually examined the space without rose-colored glasses could tell you that it has pretty much always been drowning in bigotry, reactionary politics, and aggrieved entitlement. I do, however, think that conspiracy beliefs have become noticeably more politically unified in recent years and that the active danger they present to those outside of the internal predatory cult and grifter ecosystem is significantly higher than it has ever been within living memory.
there's only so much smarmy gesturing at the ingroup-outgroup dynamics of the outgroup you can take before you notice that this itself is also ingroup signalling about an outgroup.
The fact that after the United States the countries with most mormons are Mexico, Brazil, Philippines, Peru and Chile makes me want to scream. Kill all missionaries now.
Yeah, there are more mormons in Latin America in sheer numbers, but Oceania has bigger percentage per population. Tonga, Kiribati, both Samoas, Marshall Islands and Tahiti all have a big percentage of mormon population. Kill all missionaries now.
The mormons we have in Mexico are mostly not from missionaries, they are other branches of mormonism who fled the US for different reasons. The first wave came here because they rejected Brigham Young as the successor of Joseph Smith, and the second wave came later because they refused to abandon polygamy
That said I'm just saying this from memory and could be wrong, maybe there were more migrations, or they happened for different reasons, I'm not gonna look it up
Of the various mormon settlements in Northern Mexico, none trace back to the initial Brighamite/Rigdonite schism, and all originate during the Deseret period as part of the Settlement missions that colonized the Wasatch corridor and southwest. Several of these communities were established following Young's death as a way to avoid the federal crackdown on polygamy and continue the practice of celestial marriage in secret under the direction of church leadership, similar to the BC settlements and Hilldale. Following the practice's official discontinuation, las colonias underwent the sort of gradual split between fundamentalist factions and those who followed the mainstream church that other traditionalist areas also experienced.
The mormon population of Latin America is almost entirely recent converts and their children (grandchildren, in some cases). The church's presence in the region is primarily the result of the mid-century expansion of the church's missionary program. The rate of flow for converts into the church at present is a matter of speculation, but the mormon subculture within Mexico is overwhelmingly recent, its older historical roots notwithstanding, and is spread more or less proportionally throughout the region's population centers.
I have significantly less direct experience and expertise regarding Oceanian mormon subcultures and their history, but I should mention that Polynesian mormonism, while still part of the mainstream LDS church, would be most productively thought of as its own faith tradition at this point, despite the overlap. Polynesia's relationship with Mormonism is extremely complex, and is also extremely compelling if you find things like syncretism and folk religion interesting.
And now the caveats. Statistics are always going to be a bit dicey when it comes to Mormonism, but international stats generally rely on self-reporting, so they tend to be a lot more trustworthy. That said, the difference between "self-IDs as mormon" and "actively participates and tithes" is significant, and I'd say that roughly half of all mormons on record fall into the latter category. Chile's mormon population, in specific, is, as of about a decade and a half ago, operating at a roughly 20% activity rate. I'm not positive what the impact of accounting for this would be, but I strongly suspect that it wouldn't actually change much in terms of mormon population rankings, because at this point half or more of official mormon missionary work originates within those same countries. Even if the US were to completely cut off diplomatic relations and travel with those countries, mormon subcultures would likely maintain their presence and continue to spread. The only real example I can think of of a mormon subculture undergoing a near-total demographic collapse was in Albania, largely in response to a nationalist revival of Albanian Christianity. One could also look at Utah's current demographic shift, where mormons (active and inactive) now constitute only 60% of the total population, driven primarily by increased urbanization, immigration, and widespread disaffection among generational mormons.
I don't think that "kill all missionaries now" is being seriously proposed as a course of action here,
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Maybe it's just my yankhood speaking, but I genuinely can't stand royalty. Monarchy is, to me, one of the worst ideas we've ever come up with as a species. I genuinely try to see and understand other people's perspectives, even when doing so is deeply uncomfortable, because I believe that it's necessary for any real communication to occur. But I have never been able to empathize with or even understand the monarchist on any meaningful level.
Even the deeply flattering mythologies that kings have commissioned and passed down to us show how dysfunctional the whole concept is. Why on earth would anyone with a presumably functional brain ever endorse such a system? I would particularly like to ask anyone who supports it why their response should matter to me in the slightest, seeing as they are actively arguing that their own perspective should be disregarded.
The lesson from today is 'always live your life in such a way that if a close confidant needs someone in full golden age pirate garb within 30 minutes you are available to answer the call'
God dammnit, but I'm annoyed enough to finalize my mormon racism masterpost. Someone please hold me accountable if it's not up within the next couple of days.
It's consistently weird to me that people credit Joseph Smith for things that are entirely Brigham Young's fault. Pedantry, I know, but you should know enough about cults by now to pin at least something on the second generation.
It's consistently weird to me that people credit Joseph Smith for things that are entirely Brigham Young's fault. Pedantry, I know, but you should know enough about cults by now to pin at least something on the second generation.
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