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[PT] Why minors can indeed have ASPD [END PT]

Written by, and yours truly, a minor professionally dxed with ASPD.

It's an very popular misconception that minors cannot have ASPD (Antisocial Personality Disorder) and instead must have CD (Conduct Disorder) because the diagnosis criteria states an individual must be 18 or older. But here is why that is wrong;

'Adult diagnosis' isn't really a thing as mental disorders can't just appear in adulthood. The causes of ASPD include genetics and childhood trauma and symptoms of ASPD can start at as young as 2-5 years old and in order to be diagnosed you must've showed symptoms before the age of 15.

Conduct Disorder is not an minor equivalent to ASPD, they're two different disorders. Adults can have CD just as well as minors can have ASPD. Conduct Disorder refers to unlawful conduct/behavior and CD itself doesn't typically affect the entire personality since it's not a personality disorder while ASPD does and is more severe than CD.

Although few, there have been multiple cases of minors being diagnosed with ASPD because their symptoms were too severe to be CD, and the symptoms weren't the result of puberty or from another disorder. One of, and maybe the only, reason why minors aren't typically diagnosed is because differentiating antisocial behavior and just normal teenage behavior can be difficult.

Of course still most minors won't be professionally diagnosed, a lot of them are self-diagnosed and there is no problem with that either as long as they've done their research and they know it's not CD nor puberty or another disorder. "What if they're wrong?" "What if it is CD?" It's okay to be wrong about self-diagnosis, they're no professional and you probably aren't either.

He has BPD and struggles with accepting when he's wrong about something.

But he like always tells me when hes still in defense mode.

He's always like.

Give me a moment. And then I give him a moment.

Guys it's not hard to Respect pw/pd

Yes, and I shouldn't have to say this, this goes for all pd

Cat pic!

Therapist- Why do you lie?

Me- *shrugs* I don't know

Therapist- Let me ask, how long have you been lying?

Me- I don't know

Therapist- Do you know lying is bad?

Me- That's what they say

Therapist- Do you have any reason to lie?

Me- I don't know. Maybe

Therapist- Why maybe?

Me- I get in trouble when I lie but I also get in trouble when I tell the truth so why does it matter?

Therapist- Has anyone told you to lie?

Me- No

Therapist- Why not we start telling small truths from now on?

Me- Because the truth is always wrong. They wanna hear what they wanna hear

Pathological lying is one of the conditions therapists look for when diagnosing CD/ASPD while it does not give direct symptoms of the disorder, it's one of the listed criteria. While many view lying as "bad" and "intentional" it's not always such. Lying can be done as a defense mechanism, lying can be the result of one's environmental growth, etc....

Pathological lying is also considered a compulsive disorder in which the person whether intentionally or unintentionally, will lie in order to either get what they want or to protect themselves from punishment

When it comes to anger, I can become angry over something major or minor, what I have done in the past or what another has done today and this anger can last for a few minutes or weeks on end

When it comes to boredom, it can be your usual boredom when it feels there is nothing to do or it can be an intense boredom where you are with a group, all hanging out and you find yourself bored to death. This also can last either for a few minutes or weeks on end

Both are primary emotions and scenarios that plague my life on a daily basis. I'm either equated to- not being fun or a buzz killer, or equated to being a raging abuser however when another, not with ASPD or even any of the other Cluster Bs, they are met with sympathies, support, encouragement, and resources to help as I with a disorder in which I feel this anger and boredom chronically, I am left dealing with it alone and the only escape I feel and know is turning to what destroys lives- substances, gambling, brawls(mutual combat is legal where I reside), etc....