I remember years ago when I tried to construct a semi-coherent Greek mythology timeline that took into account all the myths and genealogies and nearly drove myself half-insane. Good times.
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I remember years ago when I tried to construct a semi-coherent Greek mythology timeline that took into account all the myths and genealogies and nearly drove myself half-insane. Good times.

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There is something so special about how women are at the heart of the Odyssey. It is Athena who goes to plead to Zeus and takes advantage of Poseidon's absence to finally free Odysseus from Calypso's Ogygia. When Odysseus struggles at sea under Poseidon's wrath it is Ino/Leucothea who grants him her veil and helps him reach Phaeacia. At Phaeacia it is Nausikaa who helps Odysseus in his time of need, granting him the knowledge and attire to go plead his case in dignity, and Arete who blessses his journey back to Ithaca. Without Eurykleia's loyalty Odysseus' scheme would have fallen apart and his household wouldn't have stood with the strength that it did. Above all, without Penelope's undying fidelity and perseverance, her wisdom and scheming - without Penelope's love, Odysseus wouldn't have had a kingdom to reclaim when he returned.
STOP the "grimdark muddy and grey medievalism film about a white dude doing some bullshit" industrial complex. WHERE is the Questing Beast WHERE are the cool women WHERE are the people of color WHERE is the fun and whimsy and fantastical
and I said this elsewhere and immediately had people jumping in to be like "here's why I don't WANT color in my medievalisms" I DON'T CAREEEEEEEE. it's ahistorical and I'm sick of it!!
Right after Nolan another Odyssey will come out as a TV series but it won't sound promising again for the very issue it happened with Troy in 2004 and now with Nolans Odyssey
Speaking about the project, Gajdusek said the goal is to strip away the fantasy surrounding Homer’s epic and reveal the human story beneath.
Why?? Why these people try to keep making the same mistake? Why keep removing the gods? They were the ones that the epics happened in the first place! They were the ones moving the plot! Why strip the mythical deities from a story that will fail to work without them for the sake of realism?
Do you think you can't tell a fantasy story that isn't fundamentally human at its core?? Might I direct you to the works of Sir Terry Pratchette, or J.R.R Tolkien, who managed to tell stories filled with fantasy that never lost their reflections in what it meandms to be human? Might I direct you to Homer himself, who also fucking did that?
Right??? What's with Hollywood nowadays being scared to tell stories exactly as they were written???
Homer wrote what ancient Greeks before him orally have said about the epics that were passed on through generations. The myths are linked to Hellenic paganism = religion, so a myth tied to a religion cant separate the beings they worshipped because religion helps you shape your world around you based on what a society believes.
So removing the gods who in the story, their actions caused the epics to exist in the first place ultimately removes more than 50% of the plot. The stories even after 3000 years are famous without changing anything so why directors believe their vision is better than older tales is beyond me
But we’ve become so used to the way Hollywood has showed us this dark, violent, muddy world that it’s become a Catch-22: to engage with the colours and the beautiful material culture [...] of the real medieval world will make regular moviegoers believe it’s unrealistic. We’re so used to the fantasy that it’s the reality that risks being “unbelievable”.
Danièle Cybulskie in her review of The Death of Robin Hood on Medievalists.net

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King Menelaus and Queen Helen of Sparta
Healing from what the war broke 💔
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I am a stranger in this life, haunted by yesterday's desires (Mordred)
before and afters below the cut (16+hrs)
Bury My Heart (Galehaut Laid to Rest)
"HERE LIES GALEHAUT THE SON OF THE GIANTESS, THE LORD OF THE DISTANT ISLES, WHO DIED FOR THE LOVE OF LANCELOT" "And Lancelot himself lay his companion to rest inside the tomb. After he had laid Galehaut down, he kissed him three times on the mouth in such agony that his heart nearly leapt out of his chest. " - Lancelot Part IV (Lancelot-Grail /Vulgate Cycle)
I haven't completed a traditional drawing in pencil in years after switching almost completely to digital. There was a few times I almost gave up in the sketch phase, so I'm proud of myself for seeing it through.
Its been genuinely healing to work on this and pour my heart for these two.
If I ever have the time I'd really like to make a short comic of the events that transpire between Lancelot finding Galehaut's original grave and bringing him home so that they may eventually rest together. (Note: I did add a blue wash on the background since I wanted to leave the original drawing in pencil with no paint or marker. I'll be sharing the original drawing with no digital edits, some color tests (since I still plan to do a colored version), and a deep dive on the many references/inspirations behind this piece on Patreon later this month.)
this is the stupidest goddamn thing i've had to lay my eyes on today.
Why even make The Odyssey if you don't want to include the things that make it The Odyssey, good God.

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I started doing drawings of characters from Homer's Odyssey last night in my sketchbook, these being the first three I've done.
I'm going to start drawing and posting art of Guinevere and Lancelot and Galehaut, including NSFW art, for every instance I see of:
-People not being normal about Guinevere in a bad way
-Lancelot's bisexuality being erased
-Lancelot's bisexuality being brought up but Galehaut always being left out
Here's some I did earlier (below the cut cus NSFW)
I saw a post like this recently so I'm making a classics version
Spin the wheel. This Greek mythological figure is trying to kill you
Spin the wheel again. This Greek mythological figure is trying to protect you
Are you surviving?
100% no, my corpse is desecrated
100% no, but I am given a proper burial
Yes, but with major injuries
Yes, but with minor injuries
100% yes, not a scratch on me
Other (explain in tags)
"Oh, I've loved mythology since I was a kid! I know all there is to know about mytho--"
(Starts actually reading and researching source texts)
"I know nothing about mythology."
As you all well know, I am very much into Arthuriana, and I am writing an Arthurian retelling.
I am also a godless socialist anarchist who believes Britain shouldn't have a monarchy.
How could I possibly therefore be into a body of literature which tells the legend of a Good King™? And why on earth would I bother writing a retelling of said legend, if I hate the monarchy so much?
Except...Arthur might be a Good King, but he is never a perfect one, not in the original Welsh literature, not in any medieval literature that I know of. He is never an Unambiguously Good King™. And even if he were, that doesn't necessarily mean that the institution of the monarchy is itself good.
And that's the key word here: Institution.
For instance, when we say All Cops Are Bastards, we're not just talking about individual cops. We're talking about the institution of policing and what it represents: a carceral system, state-sanctioned violence, and in the case of my country, the iron thumb of white supremacy and class hierarchy pressing itself down on ethnic minorities and the working classes, and those are the examples from off the top of my head. Your cousin Pete may be a Good Cop, but he's still acting in the service of a rotten institution that perpetuates violence on behalf of the state.
So when I say the monarchy is bad, I'm not just talking about individual monarchs, good or bad, but about an institution that asserts that an individual has the right to rule over you by virtue of what family they're born in, "by their blood", or by virtue of Because-God-said-so.
And in the context of Arthuriana, there's another thing to consider:
Arthur may be a Good King, Camelot may be a Great Kingdom, but it is one that was founded on violence, and I'm not talking about Arthur's wars with the Saxons: I am talking about Uther Pendragon's rape of Igraine that was brought about so that Arthur could be born, so that this Great Kingdom could come about.
Do the ends justify the means? Is a Kingdom, no matter how good, that was founded on such violence, that saw one woman and her family as expendable in order for it to exist, worth saving?
I believe Arthuriana has plenty of space to explore such ideas. I think there is room for an interpretation that is questioning of the systems of violence that the characters knowingly or unknowingly perpetuate, including the institution of the monarchy.
And no, I don't believe such an interpretation will lead to a work that's inherently cynical or nihilistic. If anything, I think it adds to the tragedy, and I think questions such as these can make for a good story.

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Hi there!
I noticed in the tags of a reblog you mentioned "there is no such thing as a feminist retelling." Could you say more on that? I'm relatively new to Arthuriana and have heard that term used to refer to Mists of Avalon - which has put it in the queue behind my current reading, frankly. I'm curious if it's a failure of language or something else.
Hello!
Feminism is the belief in gender equality and a movement with a goal toward women's rights. In my opinion, a piece of fictional media cannot be feminist in and of itself; it's not alive and cannot act on its own. Media can communicate feminist ideals, it can be a tool of a feminist to illustrate her advocacy for women through storytelling, but I think over time people have come to mistake media consumption for activism and labeling books (or any other media or merchandise) feminist only exacerbates that issue. So long as reading a feminist fairytale is considered feminist action, the movement grinds to a halt and ends at consumerism. The term has now become a marketing label used by fiction authors/publishers to make money. We've been sold the false idea that reading "feminist" fantasy is akin to aiding the political movement. It isn't.
I also believe that people should be striving to write feminist works automatically. One can write a story which upholds the author's feminist theory without a woman at the forefront, even. If there are plentiful women with narrative impact and importance and the subtext humanizes and respects them, even if they live in a patriarchal society and the pov character is not a woman, that can still be a story which aligns with feminist values. For example, I just read The Story of Silence by Alex Myers, in which the point of view characters are an unnamed bard (a cis perisex man), Cador (Earl of Cornwall, another cis perisex man) and his child Silence (born female but raised male and identifies as such for most of the book) and Myers went out of his way to respectfully depict women that the original Medieval poem demonized. I would consider this to be feminist-aligned, particularly bc the story itself ruminates on gender inequality! Nowadays, especially since Marion Zimmer Bradley's The Mists of Avalon, marketing teams simply label any Arthurian retellings starring a woman "feminist" when half the time they're still misogynistic (or racist, or transphobic, which is incongruous with intersectional feminism and voids any supposedly feminist intentions)!
And on that note... I encourage you to research Marion Zimmer Bradley's history before you decide whether or not you want to read her work. Zimmer Bradley was lauded as revolutionary in the Arthurian genre and a feminist in her time, but since her passing, her daughter, Moira Greyland, has written her own book, The Last Closet of Avalon, which details her life long sexual abuse at the hands of both her mother, Marion Zimmer Bradley, and father, convicted pedophile Walter Breen. Hindsight is 20/20, and looking back at The Mists of Avalon, there are undoubtedly some disturbing aspects which hint at the warped mindset held by and acted upon by Zimmer Bradley and led to the violence against her children.
For me personally, I don't feel comfortable recommending the book (or 2001 TV show), even for the morbidly curious, now knowing that it transcribes the abuse suffered by Moira Greyland and her siblings. It feels exploitative and voyeuristic. The irony that the works of Zimmer Bradley are called "feminist" and still referenced as such to this day, without any caveats, is nothing short of horrific.
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