I was going to let this go without comment, but it’s just so appalling, I can’t.
“I was catcalled, sexually objectified and treated like a piece of meat by men the entire week. And it was absolutely awesome.”
Completely gross. Maybe you liked it because you aren’t treated that way all the time, in every aspect of your life? Maybe you liked it because you don’t know the fear and abuse that women love through 24/7? Our abuse is your fetish. Fuck you.
“That eye-fuck, by the way, is an age-old mating signal.”
Defending objectification of women. It’s just natural, everybody.
“I’m a feminist because I don’t like men telling me how to think or behave or experience the world and I don’t like women doing it, either.”
Surprise, a male-socialized person doesn’t like listening to women. Shocking, I know. You’re not a feminist when you defend the very thing that causes the rape/murder/exploitation of women all over the world. Sorry, not sorry.
“But is catcalling always harassment?”
Yeah, catcalling is harassment. It’s the idea that because you had the audacity to go outside, your physical appearance is free to be commented on by strange men. It’s the idea that women MUST hear what men think about them, because men’s opinion of your physical appearance is the most important thing ever.
“It’s part of a culture that infantilises women and teaches them to be constantly afraid.”
Uhm, no. Being afraid of men is just common sense if you’re a woman. Do you realize what men do to us?? Have you looked at the numbers? Fuck you for acting as though our fear is an overreaction. Yet another male-socialized tool to silence women. Good job.
“I wasn’t brought up that way and I don’t feel frightened when some spunky dude comes and talks to me.”
No shit. You mean you didn’t spend your entire life being harassed and sexualized, so now you have a better view of men than we do? I wonder how that happens.
“I hate this idea that all men are rapists-in-waiting and that all women are victims-in-waiting. It’s patronising and doesn’t help anyone.”
Patronizing to male-socialized people, basic survival for female-socialized people.
“Many women are sexual and like to look and feel and be seen as sexual. I’m one of those women.”
Women like to be sexual in the right context, and in a safe environment. Not all day long, when we are just trying to live our lives!!
“Nichi Hodgson, author of Bound to You, Men’s Health sex columnist and director of the Ethical Porn Partnership,”
Lmao. Lmao. Lmao. “Ethical porn”. This dude is bound to have good ideas. Lets see what he has to say.
“there’s a certain kind of middle-class woman that finds catcalls particularly galling: “There’s a sense of being sullied if an uncouth or lower-class kind of man – a white van man, for example – heckles. But if it’s a Roger Sterling type who can just about pull it off with a certain retro-sexist panache, the offence isn’t experienced the same.””
‘Women are such classist fucks! If you don’t like my objectification of you, it’s obviously because you think you’re better than me!!’ Never heard that one before. Only.. we have. From that catcallers when we ignore them.
Then you use your friend’s opinions about catcalling, like that proves something. You actually tell why women sometimes like it here:
“The Guardian’s Ellie Mae O'Hagan says it doesn’t surprise her that some women like catcalls: “One of the ways patriarchy sustains itself is by convincing women that their worth is determined by the approval of men along a strict set of terms. Getting wolf-whistled at or whatever is a small confirmation that a woman is meeting the terms patriarchy demands of her.””
Bam. You played yourself. But then…
“Couldn’t you say that about pretty much anything, though? Like, if a woman tells another woman “Great dress!” is she letting her know that she’s meeting the expectations of capitalism and the fashion industry and beauty culture? Or is she just telling her she likes her dress? Or is it a bit of both?”
A woman complimenting a dress is the exact same thing as catcalling. Lmao. Only it doesn’t come with a side of intimidation and sexualization.
“Ideology bores the shit out of me”
You mean the the thing that the entire idea of feminism is based on? Attempting to figure out why such horrible things happen to women on a daily basis is sooo boring! I just want to talk about shoes and fucking men.
“Ellie does have a point about catcalls being an expression of power. There’s a power imbalance, for example, between those who feel entitled to express their sexuality in public (straight men) versus those who don’t (like gay men, older people and lesbian women). Ellie goes further and cites studiesthat suggest sexual violence is “to an extent rooted in ideologies of male sexual entitlement””
“though I struggle to see any real connection between rape and the guy who wolf-whistled at me this morning.”
I struggle to see the connection between men who feel they’re entitled to women’s bodies and men who feel entitled to women’s bodies. Ideology is just so booooring. Who has time to think when I’m busy doing girl stuff?
“As Nichi puts it: “I think it’s a misnomer to draw a continuum between street heckling and the paltry rape conviction rate. Street hecklers don’t go on to become rapists any more than readers of lads mags do.””
Nichi is the ethical porn guy from earlier. Of course he sees no connection between porn and rape, even though there are extensive research and sources that prove otherwise. I wonder why he has never heard of them? Maybe because he benefits from porn, and as a man benefits from rape culture?
"I haven’t spoken to anyone yet who likes being told “I’d like to fuck you up the arse” as you drive past them in the street. So stop it with that, you assholes. I just wish we could make a distinction between harassment like this and harmless fun.“
Men don’t catcall because they think it’s what we want to hear, you fuck. Harassment will never be harmless fun! Fuck you, you fucking mudhole.
“Because whether you like it or not there’s a big difference between “Hello gorgeous” and – as Laura Bates was, abhorrently, told – “I’d hold a knife to that”.”
There’s a difference but the ideology is the same. You are an object. It’s never okay to treat women as an object. Get this through your fucking head.
“I also don’t want to feel pathetic for enjoying it.”
You already explained why women enjoy it ((which is an entirely different reason from why YOU enjoy it, it’s a fetish to you)). No one is saying women are awful for enjoying it, but at lest acknowledge why it’s bad, and for fucks sake don’t defend it. That’s not feminism and it never will be!
“I’ll leave you with the words of 86-year-old Jinx Allen Craig, the woman in catcalling’s greatest portrait, An American Girl in Italy: “It’s not a symbol of harassment. It’s a symbol of a woman having an absolutely wonderful time!””
Shut the fuck up. You’re a tool. You’re not a feminist. You’re a male-socialized person defending what men are socialized to defend.
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