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me complaining about ableists is NOT a fucking invite for u to come onto MY blog and debate me. being anti endo isnt syscourse. dont reblog my shit just to spread misinformation about a disorder that u clearly don't know about.

But yeah sure, invade DNI’s like the asshole you are and ragebait others who actually have the disorder you all so “CRAVE” to have.

If I didn’t bloody fucking know better, I’d think you envy us cause we supposedly “live the dream” you all WISH to have.

nowhere in the DSM does it claim trauma to be a requirement for DID (I have read the full DSM), it is only one way that a system can form

also, did u read the wrong dsm-5???? because the one that i read stated that trauma is a requirement for a CDD.

u obviously dont know ur own fucking community LOL, endos absolutely are hurting disabled people??? they compare a MEDICAL DISORDER to being trans, they repeatedly spread misinformation (literally what ur doing rn by the way), tulpamancy absolutely IS a closed practice

Like here he looks vulnerable and emotional here to me.

Then these two he looks full of desire and possessiveness.

Whenever endos say "Read the DSM! It doesn't even mention trauma!" it always pisses me off because that's blatantly false. First of all, the introduction to the dissociative disorders section has a whole paragraph on the link between trauma and dissociative symptoms.

"Dissociative disorders are frequently found in the aftermath of a wide variety of psychologically traumatic experiences in children, adolescents, and adults. Throughout this chapter, 'traumatic experiences' refers to experiences that result in psychological sequelae, as opposed to the physical impact that can cause a traumatic brain injury. Therefore, in the DSM-5, the dissociative disorders are placed next to, but are not part of, the trauma- and stressor- related disorders, reflecting the close relationship between these diagnostic classes. Both acute stress disorder and posttraumatic stress disorder include dissociative symptoms, such as amnesia, flashbacks, numbing, and depersonalization/derealization."

Secondly, in the diagnostic criteria for DID, it states:

"B. Recurrent gaps in the recall of everyday events, important personal information, and/or traumatic events that are inconsistent with ordinary forgetting."

Lastly, in the Associated Features section, it even gives more specific examples of the trauma that could cause DID:

"Individuals with the disorder typically report multiple types of interpersonal maltreatment in childhood and adulthood. Other overwhelming early life events, such as multiple long, painful, early-life medical procedures, also may be reported."

And that's not even getting into the numerous examples in other diagnostic tools of questions pertaining to trauma or the fact that the DSM is a.) very America-centric and b.) limited due to not including diagnoses like C-PTSD and P-DID (unlike the ICD-11, which does).

Sigh.

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However the radqueer traumaendo minor who attempted actually explained why he’s labeled himself that way

https://www.tumblr.com/wha-t-doth-life/820229696937689088/we-label-ourselves-as-a-traumaendo-mixed-origins

I’m unsure if you’ve seen it

nah it actually didnt go through, so i didnt see it. thanks for sending it again.

but i mean...

this is "traumagenic".

any of these things by themselves would already be traumatic on their own, but all the stuff they mentioned, especially that it was between 7/8, means this is traumagenic. either this is someone fishing for validation on their trauma, or they are in actual denial. none of which make them anything else than misinformed.

you are not ""traumaendo"" fuck off with that misinformed bs. (any 'you's do not mean the anon who sent that btw)

we have some of these experiences as well (as well as lung problems from being premature). this is bs because the "lung problems" didnt cause your system. they surely are causing problems in general, theyre a form of stress and can certainly make one more vulnerable to future trauma if it involves breathing (something humans need to survive, obviously).

"we have so much that proves our trauma is real" - if youre soooo sure, you wouldnt still be buying into endo bs and also trauma is the wound, not the event. you know if you have trauma, youre traumagenic, this rly isnt that hard.

what these people dont grasp is that your experiences are very real. if it hurt, it was traumatic. you dont even need "the worst thing ever" to have happened to have developed a CDD... but what one shouldnt do is label something as "less than trauma" when it had very real consequences to your health, and also somehow these people always factor every possible thing that has ever happened to them into what caused their system... but thats not how that works. the trauma needed to develop a cdd has to be repetitive and long-lasting, BETWEEN THE AGES OF 6-9, IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THE HURT IS, TRAUMA IS SUBJECTIVE AS AN EXPERIENCE, but that doesnt mean i should label myself "roomgenic" because i was in my room a lot as a kid. we were neglected, that caused additional hurt to us and added to the reasons why we developed like we did, that doesnt mean the room itself caused it. do you get where im coming from here???

bullying can be traumatic, harassment can be traumatic, grooming can be traumatic, psychotic experiences can be traumatic and incredibly stressful, STRESS ALONE CAN BE VERY TRAUMATIC ESPECIALLY IN A LONG TIMESPAN AND IF ITS HAPPENING CONSTANTLY. THAT DOESNT MAKE ONE ""TRAUMAENDO"" WTF.

this just confirms that this is a horribly misinformed, pro rq minor who should not only remove themselves from the "endo" communities they are in, so they can get a grasp, but also leave the rq community. there is so much wrong with what i screenshot here.

this person obviously seems very used to traumatic pain while denying their trauma entirely, and wants to stay in the hurt, thus the rq identification, a group that will only hurt them more, something very common for people with trauma in general but that doesnt make their opinion justified or less misinformed.

NONETHELESS!!

this does not justify telling someone to kill themselves!! Let me make that very clear!!

I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS PERSON BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN WE SHOULD ALL GO AND TELL THEM TO KILL THEMSELVES!

NOT ONLY IS THAT HARASSMENT, BUT ALSO THAT WILL ONLY LEAD TO EVERYONE POINTING AND GOING "SEE? I TOLD YOU ALL THOSE ANTIS ARE HORRIBLE PEOPLE" AS WELL!

i never put you or your trauma down???

if you read it correctly, i state multiple times that what you experienced was traumatic and that you do very well fit the "traumagenic" label, including that denial, belittling and wanting to cause yourself more pain because you dont think your trauma was enough, are all signs that you were traumatised. i also stated that your experiences, as posted about in the screenshot above, can all very well be traumatic on their own (even more so if all these things have happened to you at the same time or in a row, which is me acknowledging that one of these wouldve been enough to consider yourself "traumagenic" but all of these definitely more so make you traumagenic). multiple times. when you say i "belittled your trauma" was projection. i stated that trauma was entirely subjective. that doesnt mean that i believe your trauma is nothing, that means that everybody has different experiences and tolerances when it comes to trauma and that there is no such thing as trauma olympics. it obviously caused you great pain, it was traumatic. period.

what i mean when i say you shouldnt identify as "traumaendo" is because thats straight up misinformation. thats not how developing a cdd works, thats not me belittling anything, those are facts. if you are already aware of your trauma, you dont have to put yourself down. i know acknowledging trauma can be hard and that the things that have happened to you were traumatic in and of itself goes without question. but using the label as you do, is misinformation and is only going to hurt yourself more in the long run because it prevents you from healing from something that you wont acknowledge. you are fully allowed to ease yourself into acknowledging your trauma, a big step for most people with trauma, but you dont have to spread misinformation.

what you are describing, and apparently fully aware of, is traumagenic in nature, and i have validated that plenty of times. denying yourself the pain you were caused, will only go against recovery and further the pain thats already there, which was my point when i said "this person obviously seems very used to traumatic pain while denying their trauma entirely, and wants to stay in the hurt," which is not only acknowledging your trauma again, but also that this is a very common thing for people who have been traumatised to do. thats not "belittling", thats what traumatised people do when theyre used to being inside the environment that gave them the trauma.

these are facts. nowhere did i ever say "yeah i definitely think theyre fully endo lol this is all sooo fake", on the contrary. multiple times i state that everything you have listed there, can also be traumatic on its own. if you feel that belittles anything then thats you projecting because i said "bullying can be traumatic" and you seem to be considering that as something thats "not traumatic enough". thats not a me problem though.