RaviKai

Dawg get out his scarf

I beleive I have but I think I used it as an excuse to just vent my general jhonen frustrations, I can probably be a bit more organized about it:

First off the official media themselves; theres an unreleased script & two official released comics that tackle the idea of Zim and Dib being "best friends"; they aren't and they're both repulsed by the idea because the fact they hate eachother is the point viewer is the message of all three. The unreleased episode I enjoy but the comics feel... more fandom directed, in the comics Zim and Dib like go down a list of evidence that they hate eachother (which is why It feels so fandom directed, its weird!) not to mention that's the point where it becomes reptitive. Did we need to do this three times? Is it THAT big of a deal?

He certainly seems to have taken issue with more positive interpretations of the twos relationship. I know he was directly asked about his opinions once, I dont recall if this clip is exactly connected, but I do know that he HAS talked about how "watching the show in a way that makes you go "aww" and inspires warm fuzzy feelings is the wrong way to watch the show"

During that same conversation he brought up a convention script reading and the fact people were "awwhh" ing it a lot, that was most likely about the about Mopiness Of Doom script reading; THE episode that usually gets people to like ZaDr or even ZaDf due to the fact it shows thay neither are satisfied in their life without the other... it's CUTE damn it!! (Also the voice actors actually had Dib and Zim puppets kiss and it was awesome)

I also really like to think the yaoi she was looking up was between the titular Vampire Piggy Hunter and whoever the main antagonist of the series is (I'm guessing it's like a combination of Dracula and Ganon).

Like, there’s Dib and Keef, and arguably Tak because he ruined her life and left her consumed with vengeance, and Skoodge, who follows him around like a puppy and does whatever he says.

But then there’s also that Fitzoo-Menga/Virooz guy who was apparently cyberstalking him for years, even before he started his mission on earth, and became so opinionated and possessive over a very specific ideal version of him he decided he wanted to literally become him.

"Has Dib...?"

"No."

"Oh. Good. Let's just keep this between the two of us, shall we?"

"Yeah. That would probably be best."

"Just so you know I don't miss you whatsoever and would totally hate it if you showed up to stop my latest nefarious scheme. Mm-hm, yep, I'm having a great time over here all by myself totally unhindered in my mission to eradicate all human life and it'd be extremely inconvenient if any overconfident Earth-scum suddenly recovered from their temporary insanity and got in my way."

*beep*

"If there isn't a pitifully insignificant human dirt-child with delusions of world-saving grandeur crawling around my vents or whatever within the next fifteen minutes, I'll, I'll... go conquer somewhere else! You NEED me, Dib. I'm the best thing that ever happened to you. I'm the perfect adversary your whole existence is begging for and without me you're nothing but another under-evolved defective clump of expendable genetic waste stranded on some worthless backwater planet. You need me and I don't need you—

*beep*

"why won't you look at me why don't you want me how awful do I have to be for you to start hating me again I can make myself worse zim can make himself so much worse for you just comebackcomebackcomebackcomebackcomebackcomebackcomebackCOMEBACKCOMEBACOMEBACK—

*beep*

"YOU CAN FORGET ABOUT ALL THOSE OTHER CALLS! I DON'T CARE. IN FACT, IF I'M EVER UNFORTUNATE TO SEE YOUR HIDEOUSLY DISPROPORTIONED HEAD AGAIN I'LL SAW OFF YOUR LIMBS AND TEAR OUT YOUR ORGANS AND KEEP THE REST OF YOU ALIVE TO FEEL EVERY MICRO-SECOND OF PAIN I'LL PUMP ACID IN YOUR VEINS I'LL KILL ANYONE YOU CARE ABOUT I WILL DISMANTLE YOUR ENTIRE LIFE PIECE BY PIECE THEN PUT IT BACK TOGETHER JUST TO START THE WHOLE THING OVER AGAIN—

*beep*

"Listen, was it the thing with the weasels? There doesn't have to be any more weasels. I'll exterminate this planet's entire weasel population just so nobody can do anything with weasels. Or maybe my evil plans have gotten too routine. What if I make a plan with ghosts? You like ghosts. You know you want to stop a plan with ghosts."

*beep*

"Cease with the games. Do you really think that abandoning Zim makes you special? Do you think there's something extraordinary about giving up and letting me win? This can't be how you want it to end. You're that desperate to get rid of me? Then come over here and get rid of me."

*beep*