Geralt is such a good protag to me because he is an impossibly good monster hunter and swordsman, has 1/3 of the continent's population (male and female) in love with him, is very articulate and intelligent- and yet he is still a bit of a loser. Girldad to deeply concerning teenager. Is in a 30-year-long situationship. Falls out with his best friend like they're on the playground. Spends all the money he barely scrapes up on a new jacket. Immediately ruins said jacket. So it goes.
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Was that your mom I just met that was Sofia ok is Sofia your mother ?? My mother is dead. Let me put it this way. Are you hitting the same vagina you spent the first nine months of ur mortal life in?? Anatomically. Thereâs the womb, and thereâs the cervix- Stop the car. and thereâs the uterus, Are you jumping the cervix??? And thereâs-đ¤Žđ¤Žđ¤Žđ¤Žđ¤Žđ¤Žđ¤Žđ¤Žđ¤Ž STOP THE CAR â- MY SHOES!?! Itâs not one thing Louis (theowing up) đ¤Žđ¤Žđ¤Žđ¤Ž STOP THE GOD DAMN CAR. LOUIS!!!! Fuck fuck fuck my shoes. LOUIS!!!!!!!!! LOUISSSSSSS!!!!!!!! You donât eat where you shit, and you donât come inside the door you came out of what on GODS SAVAGE EARTH IS THERE TO TALK ABOUT ?? She was dying Louis I gave her the gift NO NO ITS BASIC ITS FUNDAMENTAL- NO ITS A COMPLICATED MULTIFACETED SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES NO NO THERES NO CIRCUMSTANCE THAT LEADS TO OH YEAH!! I COULD SEE HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEn!?!?! Youâre being very judgey. Come to Montreal???? See me sing??? Hey meet my friend with incestual benefits !?! This is all- all- time Armand level deceit. OH DO NOT WALK AWAY AND - AND - AND SAY HIS NAME DO NOT COMPARE ME TO HIM HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT THIS IS A CENTURIES LONG LIE YOU HUNG HER PORTRAIT OVER OUR COFFINS IN NEW ORLEANS ITS SICK ITS SICK - WE ARE UNNATURAL BEINGS AND THIS IS THE HALF HUMAN SOUL YOU CONVENIENTLY WHIP OUT WHENEVER YOU WANNA WIN AN ARGUMENT WHAT -ARGUMENT YOU GOT FOR FUCKING YOUR MOTHER ITS SICKNESS MAYBE THE SOURCE OF ALL YOUR SICKNESS BUT MY GOD - YOU!!! YOU!!! - SEEK A PROFESSIONAL - YOU CALL ME OUT OF NOWHERE TO SAY YOURE PAYING A GIRL TO PRETEND TO BE CLAUDIA AND PAYING A GIRL TO PRETEND TO BE MADELINE AND WHAT DO I SAY DO I SAY YOURE SICK LOUIS DO I SAY SICKNESS LOUIS NO I SPEND A MONTH AND A HALF TALKING YOU BACK FROM UNIMAGINABLE FRENZY IN THE MIDDLE OF MY OWN FRACTURING đ°đ¨đ¨đ°đ°đđđ¨đ°đ¨đđđ¨đ°I OFFER YOU ROOM UNDER MY ROOF OkâŚ.. I OFFER YOU THE POSSIBILITY OF RECKONING WITH YOUR CRIPPLING GUILT OkâŚ.. I OFFER đđđđđ°đ°đ°đ°đ°đđđđđđđđđ°đ°đ°đ°đ° I OFF đđđđđđ°đ°đ°đ°đ°đ¨đ¨đ¨đđđđđđOkâŚ..Itâs okâŚ. đđđđđđđđđđ°đ°đ°đđđđđ¤Žđ¤Ž
lestat: *awful french(?) accent* fam they are low-key trying to cancel me for serving too much cunt all because i'm too camp and too whimsical and now the woke mobe is coming for me but they'll have to take the L because I HAVE THE BLOOD OF AKASHA IN ME iykyk i'm just living rent-free in your minds because i'm looking snatched periodt
*five minutes musical video with the worst song you have ever heard*
gabriella: *count dracula accent* uuuuh lestat fuck me !! fuck mamma again and again and again !! i want sex i want to be FUCKED i want to suck a cock i love cock i only think of cock and murder uuuuuh lestat let's kill all humanity
daniel: did you stutter as a child? did you stutter as a child? did you stutter as a child? did you stutter as a child? oh and also: *seven different slurs*
louis: oh i'm sorry i'm a selfish bastard i'm a bad person i should be humbled *random slurs are said his way*
armand: *opens his eyes two seconds before the episode ends*
gabriella butchered and made into a cartoonish, two dimensional villain with no depth or complexity whatsoever. louis being humiliated time and time again, forced to apologise to his abusers and referred to as a dozen different racial slurs. armand acting out of character, carrying out plot points that actively contradict his s2 characterisation. daniel having no role whatsoever other than being insufferable and stupid and insulting at least one minority per episode. claudia revealed to be suffering in hell, used as a mouthpiece for the writers to spew their hatred for louis, her presence needed to bring louis and lestat together back again. the band members taking loads of screen times but having paper thin characterisation and being absolutely unforgettable. lestat himself, the titular character, reduced to a shallow version of himself, where he actually didnât do anything but was forced to by someone else. his (beautiful, heartbreaking, so interesting!) backstory resolved in quick two minutes long scenes with no emotional depth.
not one character given the depth and exploration they needed. how can you fuck it up so badly? who is this season even for?
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Armand's arc stopped making sense the moment he took that letter out of his pocket, but you were too busy blasting Big Boss to see.
Taking into consideration both book and show Armand's character traits, he boils down to love and self-preservation. And none of what's happening in the finale fits into that.
It should have been Daniel in the torture chamber, that is. He should have been angry at Daniel. He should have been plotting against him. He should have looked at him and thought, it's you I want next.
Armand tried saying sorry. Didn't work. He tried confessing. Didn't work. Tried painting himself a hero who had spent 52 years saving Daniel from his bad life decisions. Daniel laughed at him and told him he would never love him. Armand then lured him in with a good gossip, a way to come back at Lestat (don't even start me on Daniel's arc this season. It's non-existent. Daniel is as good as dead) and some cool vampiric powers. And it should have been Daniel still refusing to love him.
Back in the torture chamber, boy.
The idea I've conceived the moment my back collided with the concrete wall should have been him renting a flat and reshaping it into a copy of their place on Divisadero. The psychological torture should have been directed at Daniel and it should have been Daniel, a matured, wise version of him looking at Armand and dissecting him as skilfully as he dissected Louis in s1-2. It should have been Daniel NOT BEING AFRAID OF ARMAND anymore and seeing the monster in him and saying, I get it, you're a scared kid whose life has just been destroyed, and you think it is me who has destroyed it, but no, it started when you were 12 and never really went uphill. Instead of "I saw good in you for a while" it should have been "I see the evil in you and I get you, and I forgive you, now please untie me."
with few exceptions we have only seen black characters graphically get brutalized. they had closeups of louisâs body and face after lestat tried to murder him showing the extent of what was done, we saw just how burned and disfigured he was after her suicide attempt, claudiaâs death is one of the most graphic iâve seen on any tv show, we got closeups of their ankles slashed and shots of louis being kicked in the head and claudia being shoved into a box of live rats by the coven members. the majority of louisâs scenes in episode 7 were of his decapitated head on a pike, forced to look at his body as it flailed, begging to die, forced to apologize in something so close to a saw trap that it was bordering on copyright infringement while being painted as cruel and deserving of the abuse and then branded by armand.
we didnât see any shots of lestatâs head in the bowling bag. we saw him burn, but it was portrayed as comical. we did not see bruce as he died, we did not see lestat get torn up by the wolves, we did not watch nicki die. in the majority of the scenes where a white character is injured, the action is cut away, out of frame, out of focus, mostly implied.
the extent of what we saw of the brutality of black characters now feels almost fetishistic. at the end of episode 105, lestat is floating in the air looking dreamy and louis is beaten to a pulp on the ground; episode 207, lestat is put together in a suit with his hair done and louis and claudia have been severely beaten. like, after this season, the rest of the show just looks weird.
imagine being a non white british actor who gets cast in an adaptation of a foundational piece of vampire IP except its rewritten to actually delve into racism and homophobia and xenophobia etc and your show is a huge success and critically acclaimed in large part due to YOUR fantastic performances but then when s3 rolls around the shows white creators decide to completely rewrite most of your characters in a way which will make their now white lead look better and it is so bad and so racist even said white coworker is uncomfortable with it but now you need to do a press tour talking about how great the season is to everyone. congratulations now you've imagined what jacob anderson delainey hayes and assad zaman feel
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If this is what we were supposed to take away from a character like Louis why would anyone love/like him? It begs the question what are Louisâ redeeming qualities? Why do these men continue to stay with him and obsess over him?
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Iâve been trying to wrap my head around this. Ultimately, I think this is all a response.
I still think Season 1 was fine. I think they knew the story they wanted to tell and approached it with open minds and excitement to adapt it. But then AMC gave them the green light to expand Louisâ arc across two seasons. Surprising but okay! And so, at least in my opinion, they did create S1 out of genuine creativity and love for the material.
But then it released and seeing how popular Loustat was, seeing people actually really like, some even love Jacobâs Louis, it made them approach S2 differently. Nobody behind the scenes was expecting for Loucob to be as loved as he is, whether people like him for himself or like him as an extension of Loustat. Even Jacob seemed to be surprised, having initially viewed his arc as a stepping stone before theyâd dive into Lestat later. His shock & confusion in interviews after S2 but before they started shooting S3 was clear. He was surprised to still be brought on for in-depth interviews at all.
I wouldnât call it lightning in a bottle. That would mean intent. Itâs more like they were drinking beers in the backyard just shooting the shit before lightning freaked everybody out by zapping past the lid. While of course they didnât plan to tell a lackluster story, I think the richness of Louisâ character was a complete accident. I think they all thought it could be perceived as good, not as fucking great.
And this is why Season 2 started us down the path of being controversial among the fanbase. And by âcontroversialâ I genuinely mean âdebatedâ, because people have very different opinions of it. The S2 reunion scene is heavily debated (primarily in Louis spaces) with half saying they hated it and the other half enjoying it. You have half the fanbase happy with Lestatâs apology during the trial, and half saying Santiago was right and that Lestat was too hard on himself.
Season 1 was clearer on how things were to be interpreted. While thereâs definitely argument for how fans/crowds/mobs take ideas and run with them regardless of intent, nothing in Season 1 garnered as many different interpretations as the content in Season 2. I think this is because this is when the team behind the show started, seemingly, disagreeing with each other.
This is how you get âwait what was Louisâ apology to Lestat in the finale about? Was that Louis coming to terms with himself, or was that the show engaging in victim blaming?â And everyone has different POVs on it. Itâs clear now, that the ambiguity behind the scene, behind quite a few scenes in S2, is because the writers themselves couldnât agree on what they wanted them to mean.
But with all the people theyâve let go for Season 3, and the new ones they hired on, itâs obvious which side remained on-staff and the kinds of likeminded people they got to take the othersâ place.
So now, in Season 3, there is no debate. There is no âhm I can see this interpretation but I can also see this interpretationâŚ.â Thereâs no ambiguity. This side of the team, the side that viewed Louisâ apology in S2 as Louis apologizing for âabusingâ Lestat, that seemed to view Louisâ charred, crumbling body apologizing to Armand as deserved punishment instead of horrific abuse, are the ones that have stayed and taken over the show.
And we KNOW debates started happening in the Season 2 writerâs room given the recent interview where Rolin briefly mentioned it, such as whether Louis asked Armand to erase his memories or if he never did. Certain things in Season 2 are controversial among fans, because the writers themselves started disagreeing on characterizations and important story beats.
So with this portion of the team let go vs the ones that were called back + those newly hired to replace the former, this is how we got Season 3. A season that is not as ambiguous as Season 2 where the writers were fist fighting when they put pen to paper. We are back to the single vision of Season 1.
Except this vision wasnât born from heartfelt creativity and love for the material. Itâs out of agreed upon resentment and shared biases. You even have the production designers of all crew members throwing in âI always liked Lestat moreâ unprompted when their job has NOTHING to do with character preference. Season 3 is the way it is, because these are the people who originally wanted Louisâ arc to only be compiled into a single season, and were irritated when fans kept wanting more. Whether they wanted more of Loucob or simply wanted more of Loustat as a duo.
And Rolinâs âwe wrote from the gutâ or âthe idâ and all of his sayings that they wrote instinctively lays it out that this whole mess is emotional retaliation. The writing behind Season 3 is a temper tantrum.
Not just as retaliation to Louis, but to everyone. Assadâs Armand shot through the ROOF and instantly became one of the most popular characters in S2. Iâd even argue is Thee second most popular after Lestat (Iâd say Daniel is the second most popular among casual viewers whereas among non-casual viewers, itâs Armand.) With DM shooting to the stars as the most popular ship among non-casual viewers. (And DM does beat out Loustat in terms of popularity when looking at the dedicated fanbase.)
But once again, this seems to have pissed That Sideâ˘ď¸ of the creative team off after Season 2âs release. With none of them expecting Assadâs Armand to be as beloved or for DM to be as highly desired as they are. And you can see this frustration in all of Armand & DMâs âdevelopmentâ in Season 3.
Why Armand had less than 15 minutes total of screentime across episodes 1-6 before reducing into a maniacal villain in 3x07. Why DMâs eagerly anticipated relationship happened completely off screen, and both characters butchered so it would be intentionally unsatisfying once revealed. (And the excuse that theyâre a minor / secondary relationship so they were never going to be as focused on doesnât make sense when looking at Claudeleine. Who was still emotionally moving and well paced even in the midst of the Loumand-Dreamstat-Loustat triangle.)
The âmetaâ that they kept talking about in pre-S3 interviews isnât that the writers just kept the fanbase in mind while making it, itâs that the entirety of Season 3 is a response to the fans themselves. Itâs less about the actual characters that were written in Seasons 1 & 2, and comes off more as one long Twitter thread titled âMy IWTV Hot Takesâ
Because you also canât say any of this was for Lestat. Itâs very reminiscent to Season 2, when Lestat point blank says âI hurt Louis because I wanted to hurt himâ and a portion of the fanbase shoved a pacifier in his mouth to shut him up and for years afterwards kept saying âNo he didnât mean it.â Even Samstat was reduced from a character into a figurehead.
Loucob became a punching bag, Claudlainey and Assadâs Armand were weaponized against Loucob while simultaneously reduced to punching bags too, and the writers put Samstat on the same idealized pedestal that the characters Magnus, Marius, and Gabriella are supposed to be condemned for, treating him as a concept rather than a person.
Sorry, my response turned into something else lol. But âWhy would the writers write Louis this way? Why would anyone like him?â My personal opinion after really trying to understand what on earth has happened, is that no, they likely were not writing like this since S1. The season just doesnât make sense from that POV. Everything weâre seeing right now is reactionary.
Season 1 was a story created out of actual interest, Season 2 was when the boat started to rock, and Season 3 isnât a season at all. Itâs a cokerant thread on Twitter. Itâs a callout post on Tumblr. A 72-part TikTok story. Itâs little more than the writersâ tantrum because fans werenât playing with their dolls the way they wanted us to.
Any TVL cast member being interviewed: yeah so when I first read the script I wanted to murder Rolin with my bare hands :) haha yeah he butchered my character so badly that I threw my laptop across the room :) aha and then I yelled at him for two hours which only resulted in minor tweaks to the script :) yeah I was so shocked and confused :) and he comes up with scenes that donât make any sense in-universe. :) and I worry for the future of this tv show :) but itâs alright as long as you think about how [5 min in depth analysis of details that the cast member has come up themselves to justify the season despite these justifications not being evident in the actual show at all] aha :)
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