Side blog for me to archive stuff about anti-transmasculinity About me: You donât need to know about me. You can refer to me by my username which is supposed to read as âhell of my choice.â It reflects the choice I had between staying as a woman (one kind of hell) or living as a trans man (another kind.) I use They/Them pronouns on the internet.
genuinely everyone needs to talk more about anti transmasculinity/transandrophobia in their daily life. however best works for whatever context you find yourself in. bring up the murders and violent assaults of trans men. bring up the transmasc suicide rate. bring up historical examples of trans men that don't fall into the "white passing heterosexual man who isn't outed until after his death" stereotype. bring up forced pregnancy as a detransition tactic. bring up transmascs in the US having some of the worst health outcomes of all trans groups. point out how transmasc erasure relies on inherently unrealistic and out of touch notions of how misogyny functions. point out how the ways we use to analyze trans experiences under patriarchy are based in cis frameworks. we need to make anti transmasculinity and transandrophobia a more public conversation. we need to openly and loudly contradict the popular narratives of how transmasculinity is seen and treated under patriarchy. we need to introduce people to transmasculine-centered feminism and transunitist theories of transphobia and provide a real grounded criticism of the erasure of anti-transmasculine violence.
anti-transmasculinity is not an accident, it's not something the patriarchy just stumbles into, the misogyny is not misdirected and it's not just a pre-transition phenomenon. and most importantly, the idea that the patriarchy just can't comprehend transmasculinity and doesn't know what to do with trans men is perhaps the most egregious and widespread example of how erasure works as a cover up for anti-transmasc patriarchal violence by suggesting that it literally does not and cannot happen, and if it does, it cannot be truly systemic or even really on purpose. when trans people and allies do this it is generally not purposeful, but when people continue to promote this narrative, they are genuinely participating in the patriarchy's cover up of the deaths and lost lives of thousands upon thousands of people. we have to challenge the cissexist consciousness people approach transmasculinity with. we all must speak up!!!!!!!!!!!!
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so do people know that multiple trans people across the US have reported that their pharmacists have arbitrarily denied them testosterone prescriptions, either because "you need authorization" or "company policy" or, in states where its legal, because they don't feel comfortable giving it to them.
i wouldn't be surprised if its also common for this to happen with estrogen, i found one news story on a trans woman experiencing this, but looking it up there seems to be a LOT of cases of this happening with testosterone. which makes me suspect people feel empowered to do this with T in particular because of its criminalized status. regardless, i do not see this brought up much! and i think we should discuss it more, at the very least to prepare people in case they experience this, so they know how to handle the situation.
examples below the cut for length:
Walgreens says pharmacist was uncomfortable with injection method
For Tristan Martin, a 34-year-old trans man living in North Austin, that fear became a reality last week when a Walgreens pharmacist refused to fill his testosterone prescription.
Martin says his pharmacistâs explanation for not filling his prescription was that she was uncomfortable with the doctorâs instruction that the medicine be administered subcutaneously, meaning as a shallow injection under the skin. But, as Martin explained to the pharmacist, heâs taken the same meds for four years, with the same method, and never heard such an objection. Plus, Martin said that the pharmacist was only being asked to provide the testosterone itself, not the equipment necessary to administer it. He later attempted to reach Walgreensâ pharmacy department and store manager to ask about the situation but wasnât able to reach anyone and never got any calls back.
A store employee told the Chronicle they could not address the dispute. Tristanâs wife, Hayden Martin, said she received an apology from a Walgreens regional healthcare supervisor, after the supervisor contacted her on May 23. âHe said there was absolutely wrongdoing and that itâs going to get figured out,â Hayden said. âHe said he was going to reach out to the higher-ups and heâs going to let me know by Friday what happens.â
Hayden Martin told us she was able to contact the pharmacist in question two days after the refusal to fill the prescription. âShe would not give a reason as to why she felt the doctor was wrong,â Hayden said. âAnd she said, âIâm not comfortable filling it for âher.â So automatically the assumption is that itâs just an issue of her not being comfortable with the fact that itâs testosterone for a trans man. So I, of course, asked her if this was the reason â because heâs a trans man â and she got very defensive and denied it. And then I tried asking for her name and her license number and she said, âWell, thatâs not important information.ââ
Walgreens Pharmacist Denies Gender Affirming Meds, But Other Options Exist
Recently, one of our readers, who wishes to go unnamed, sent us the following email:
On the 24th when I went to pick up my testosterone prescription at the Walgreens on Lomas & Carlisle, I was asked by the pharmacist why I took it, and when I told him it was gender affirming, he told me he wouldnât fill it going forward⌠I want other trans+ folks in our neighborhood to know that this is not a safe pharmacy (I donât regret reacting by sobbing loudly in the middle of a Walgreens, but I donât want anyone else to have to go through that), and I want all our cis neighbors to know that this is a thing that is happening.
We reached out to the Walgreens location, and the person who answered (and who we will keep anonymous) confirmed that there is a pharmacist on staff who refuses to fill prescriptions for gender affirming medication due to their beliefs. However, they clarified that other pharmacists at the location would fill a gender affirming prescription if they were on duty, or the prescription could be filled at other Walgreens locations. Unfortunately, they were not able to provide further information as to the pharmacistâs name or when their shifts might be.
A year after KC investigation, another trans customer turned away from Costco pharmacy
The cityâs Civil Rights and Equal Opportunity Department launched an investigation in October 2022 after a Star report about five transgender and nonbinary people who said they were denied their prescribed testosterone at the pharmacy. Costco denied the allegations. [...]
Dave, whose name has been changed in this story to protect his identity as a transgender man, was grocery shopping at the Linwood Boulevard Costco on Monday when he decided to pick up some syringes.
Dave has used insulin syringes for years to take his prescribed testosterone â their thin needles make his regular injections less painful.
These small syringes donât require a prescription, making them easy to obtain â and Costco offers a bulk pack of 100 at a nice discount compared to other pharmacies.
At first, the transaction was painless: Dave asked for a pack of syringes and an employee asked him his preferred size and gauge. But when he mentioned that he uses them to inject testosterone, the tone of the conversation shifted abruptly.
âThey got weird about it,â Dave said. âThe pharmacist, I guess, overheard and she came out and sheâs like, this wonât work for testosterone.â
Dave explained that he has used these syringes for his testosterone injections for years â and has even bought the same syringes at that Costco pharmacy before for the same purpose.
Insulin syringes are regularly used to inject low doses of testosterone. But despite being an over-the-counter product, the pharmacist insisted that Dave needed a prescription before she would sell them to him.
âSheâs like, well, we wonât sell it to you unless you have your doctor call it in,â Dave recalled. He stepped aside to call his doctorâs office, but they were closed for Mondayâs holiday. âI didnât feel like arguing (with the pharmacist). So I just left.â
An assistant general manager at the Linwood Costco said Wednesday that he was not aware of the incident and couldnât comment on it.
A pharmacy employee said that she and her coworkers are not authorized to speak to the media. A request for comment from Costcoâs corporate office was not immediately answered.
Dave called the Missouri Pharmacy Board Tuesday and was told that syringes only require a prescription if they bear the label âfor Rx only,â which his syringes didnât.
Beyond that, he said he was told that the state gives pharmacists discretion over what they choose to dispense, as long as they donât violate federal anti-discrimination laws.
On a Saturday night two years ago, Stann Fransisco was driving back home to New Mexico after visiting their parents ...
âCriminalization has made it easy for pharmacists to deny my [testosterone] prescription, which has happened to me many times,â Artemis McGettigan, a trans student in Dearborn, Michigan, told Filter. â[Pharmacists] have told me in the past that âItâs corporate policy, theyâre not allowed to fill that type of prescription ⌠but I knew that was false because other CVS locations, for example, were able to fill it.â A CVS media representative told Filter that its policies âdo not prohibit our pharmacies from filling testosterone prescriptions.â
CVS Pharmacist refused to fill my T
I have been on T for coming up on 3 years. Iâve never had any problems with any pharmacy Iâve gone to. I recently had to switch pharmacies and for over two weeks this pharmacist at CVS has given me the run around. âI need to talk with your doctor about why you need itâ (which Iâve never had happen before). And then the next day would say âI need prior authâ. Itâs been so long without my T that my period came back today and I am freaking out. So I sent a very frantic message to my doctors office. They called me about an hour later telling me the pharmacist sounded fishy and said âIâm not comfortable filling this prescription.â Ok? Your job isnât to judge my prescription your job is to give me the medication my doctor decided I needed. The doctors office was nice enough to transfer everything to a different CVS close by and even apologized for not getting the pharmacists name. We did call to get his name. My partner is very nice and called corporate to file a complaint and the corporate pharmacist on the phone said that they do have grounds to deny a prescription only if there is not enough info or itâs fake. So they reported it as discrimination. Unfortunately I canât take legal action or I would. Sorry this is more of a rant than anything. This should be illegal and nobody should work in healthcare if theyâre going to gate-keep health. I truly hope this man gets fired. Iâm trying to file a report to the state board of pharmacists because he can have his license revoked for discrimination. Thanks for listening.
My pharmacy tried to deny me my testosterone
So I called in my prescription on the 2nd and they told me that it would be ready on the 5th. Itâs the 8th today so I called and asked if it was ready yet and the pharmacist told me I needed prior authorization and that my insurance wouldnât cover it. Thing is, my insurance has covered it for the past two months, which is when I first started T. The pharmacist told me to call my doctor and get the authorization so I did and my doctor said that thereâs no issues on her end, no authorization needed, and that my insurance still covers my prescription so sheâs not sure why he would say that. I end up calling them back and end up speaking to the lady who took my original prescription and she was like âOh my god. I donât know why he said that to you. Iâm seeing a refill request but nothing that requires an authorization. Iâm gonna send this in today and it should be ready by Fridayâ. I think itâs hilarious too that when I told him my name, he was like âoh youâre (my grandparentâs names) granddaughter!â
CVS for years refused to sell me the needles I need for my T injections (prescription was not required, but they lied and said one was), would say they were out of stock (not when I see the box right there), loudly asked why I need my T when other patient convos were done quietly or not at all, deliberately gave me insulin needles (I need much larger) or sometimes only 1 needle for a multi-dose prescription. (Even for 1 dose, you should have at least 2 needles -- one to draw with and one to inject.) They also "dropped" my vial a few times.
Any one of these could be ignorance/accidents, but these each happened multiple times from 3 locations.
If your clinic does its own dispensing, I highly recommend switching to that for your prescription. If you are worried about needles, get your provider to include the needle info on the scrip. And if you *really* have issues with the needles, buy them in bulk online.
I'm so so so so so beyond done being nice but i know that if I'm not nice, it'll be weaponized against me ten fold compared to the people who have abused me into such a state of being. they can do all of this shit to us, but if we give even a tiny fraction of that energy back to them, oh well that's too far. I'm so fucking tired of being victimized by people who were supposed to be comrades under the same fight for justice.
I think people need to understand that everyone has to unlearn misogynistic behaviors and thinking patterns. Cis women and trans women and cis men and trans men and anyone who doesnât fall under those categories are all completely capable of being misogynistic and actively hurtful to women. Trans men are included in this, obviously, but when you only call for trans men to unlearn this mindset, you are no longer being progressive and fair. You are singling out a minority.
it pisses me off to see cis women saying 'trans women are misogynistic because they were raised as men' and trans women replying 'no we aren't because no we weren't!' and i'm sitting there staring at the camera like it's the office. because like women are ALL raised to be just as misogynistic as men. it's a notable goddamn feature of the patriarchy.
like if you are marginalized it is in your own self-interest to interrogate and deconstruct the cultural narratives that position you as subnormal. this is what starts a lot of queer people on wanting to reform the world into something more compassionate and egalitarian.
but it's not the marginalization that makes you any more or less ethical than anyone else. it's the work. you gotta do the actual work.
I feel like part of the problem is a really popular misunderstanding of bigotry.
Misogyny is not just prejudice experienced by a woman. It is not simply something that happens TO a woman. It has nothing to do with the woman. Itâs about the misogynist.
Bigotry is not determined or defined by the target of that bigotry. The bigotry is stored in the bigot.
Misogynists will be misogynistic towards any person they associate with femininity, including cisgender men.
When a misogynist cis man tears another man down for liking something he thinks is girly, he is still being misogynistic.
A cis male coach telling his cis male student he runs like a girl is being misogynistic.
A cis woman punishing her son for wanting a âgirlâ toy or policing her boyfriendâs hygiene habits and interests for anything she considers emasculating, is being misogynistic!
When a woman gets in a car accident and is injured more severely because the safety testing on that car was only done using crash test dummies and models based on men, sheâs experiencing misogyny.
When the medication she takes for her injuries doesnât work right or has unexpected side effects because it was only tested on men, sheâs experiencing misogyny.
When the tools she uses at work that are the wrong shape for her hands, and the jumpsuit thatâs part of her uniform which she has to take off completely to use the bathroom, and all the spaces she moves through and everything within them are designed with the assumption that an average male body is the only body that mattersâ she is experiencing misogyny.
Misogyny is the belief that women are inherently inferior, and the systems and institutions built around that belief. It can be experienced by anyone, and anyone is capable of having misogynistic beliefs and doing misogynistic things.
Bigotry is not about the target. Itâs about the bigot, and what the bigot believes, and the way those bigoted beliefs have shaped our world.
I donât care what race gender or sexuality you are, you were raised with racist, sexist, homophobic beliefs. Because itâs literally impossible not to be.
And the harder you try to cling to the idea that misogyny is something that happens TO women, rather than something coming FROM misogynists, the more blind youâll be to your own misogynistic beliefs, and all the ways everything in our society is a product of or directly reinforces those beliefs.
I have gotten into the habit of when interacting with a patient, interrogating myself about what traits I am assigning them, and how its affecting my care. It doesn't matter that I'm a woman, the world has taught me to believe a woman is over emotional and exaggerates her pain. On the flip side, a lifetime of jokes about "manflu" make cause me to underestimate a man's experience of illness. Its not about either gender, its about me and my own expectations. I have caught myself on occasions dismissing what my patients are telling me as "not that bad" and it is always linked to some trait they have. Men are whiny about illness, women exaggerate pain (to be believed), old people are confused, people whose first language isn't English are too hard to understand, whatever. I know full well that all of these things are wrong, but kneejerk responses are built from assumptions, and the assumptions we have most commonly been exposed to are the easiest thing to base those responses on.
I dont think I have ever let it affect my care. I hope I never have, and its my responsibility to keep interrogating my judgements and decisions towards my patients to make sure I never do.
I dont think I'm sexist or racist or ageist or homophobic or any other-ist, but the potential to be exists within me, so its my responsibility to keep checking myself, to interrogate my thoughts. The thoughts come from me. Having those thoughts doesn't make me a bigot, not recognising those thoughts as incorrect and working to dismantle them, or acting on them would do.
I'm in a bitter mood so I'm not afraid to name and shame
I don't think I need to go into the reasons why this is complete and utter bullshit but need I remind everyone that trans men do indeed face discrimination. We are not magically protected just because we are men.
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someone trying to delete the entire wikipedia article on transmasculine discrimination, which documents notable hate crimes, purely just because she didnt like the use of the word transandrophobia is such an apt metaphor for. all of this
Completely degendering bathrooms is a good idea in all places but esp esp esp in schools. Cieling-to-floor stalls and open air sinks not blocked by outer doors would genuinely fix so many fucking problems even before we start considering the fact that it functionally eliminates the entire reason for having to seperate and identify people by gender in the first place they ever have to be forced to do so socially.
I suppose being cis would be nice and all, but it doesnât quite have the same âI will sieze Destiny by the throat and force it into the shape of my choosingâ kind of verve
Ik sometimes I reblog or post some evidence here of people being heinous but that's generally cuz I truly feel like it needs to be documented. Lots of times I see people going "nobody is saying that" when I've seen plenty of people say it with my own two eyes. It's more for my own vindication & grounding against second guessing my own experiences than anything lol
"Queer space" as in "this space is created with the needs of queer people in mind and you should expect to encounter queerness here", not "you have to be queer enough to be allowed in"
"Queer space" as in "this space centers queerness", not "queers only"
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Call me crazy but I do think that trying to apply a cisgender based framework of gendered oppression onto intercommunity trans dynamics â in any capacity â will always have one major, glaringly obvious point of failure, which is:
NONE of us are fucking cisgender and the gendered privileges afforded by cisgender society are never genuinely or fully afforded to ANY of us.
It means that trying to assign any kind of "male privilege" to ANY category of trans people will never truly be fruitful, because the concept of "male privilege" was created by cisgender women to discuss cisgender men under cisgender gender dynamics without the experiences of transgender people in mind.
I think we can all agree that transgender women, transgender men, and nonbinary people are NOT cisgender men.
Even when we are discussing trans people who are externally perceived as / assumed to be cisgender men within society because they are stealth, closeted, or non-cis passing â those trans people are experiencing something conditional that can be stripped from them the moment anyone in a position to harm them finds out they are trans.
I think we can all agree that being misgendered and/or having to hide a part of yourself so you do not get hate crimed and/or lose employment or benefits or housing, etc. is NOT an exercising of privilege.
Even when we are discussing misogyny, an important and longstanding part of feminist discussion on misogyny is the fact that everyone is capable of being misogynistic. Misogyny is not stored in the assigned sex or gender identity. We all live in a patriarchal society, NO ONE is immune from internalizing misogynistic, patriarchal worldviews and acting upon them.
I think we can all agree that there is no transgender person who is incapable of being misogynistic, because there is no person in general who is incapable of being misogynistic.
To act as though privilege and bigotry are stored in a sex assignment or gender identity is to be gender/sex essentialist.
To try to apply that essentialism through a feminist lense IS radical feminist and there IS better feminism than that out there.
The ultimate goal of the anti-eugenics movement has to be to build a society, to build the legal and political and economic and cultural and material conditions, in which eugenics is no longer a rational choice.
I often compare disability/class/age-based eugenics to sex-selective abortion. Banning sex-selective abortion does not solve the problem; it just violates people's bodily autonomy, builds parental resentment of their children, and compounds the misogyny that leads to the demand for sex-selective abortion in the first place.
People practice sex-selective abortion because having a child AMAB is more beneficial to the parents' social and economic standing than having a child AFAB. The solution to that problem has to be changing those social and economic conditions so that a child's gender or AGAB has no bearing on their parents' social and economic standing -- so that sex-selective abortion is no longer a rational choice in response to the parents' circumstances.
And the only way to prevent disability-selective abortion is to make disabled people so socially and economically equal to abled people that disability-selective abortion no longer looks like a rational choice.
The only way to prevent economic/class eugenics is economic equality. The only way to prevent age/status-based eugenics is social equality.
This is the main impetus that drove me to socialism. I used to be more of a center-left social democrat; I figured "Complete economic equality would be nice, but it's a pipe dream; the important thing is that everyone. It doesn't really matter if the CEO is richer than everyone else, as long as no one is hungry or homeless. Besides, it's kind of 'fair' in a way for people with more specialized/demanding jobs to be compensated more."
But the thing is, as long as inequality exists, parents will want their children to rise to the top of the hierarchy. As long as inequality exists, parents will want to prevent their children from falling lower in the hierarchy. As long as inequality exists, parents will do anything to coerce and pressure and abuse and modify their children to give them a "competitive edge."
And as long as inequality exists, and certain physical/cognitive traits correlate with "success," choosing children with those "successful" traits will be a rational choice.
Americans in disability liberation discussions tend to blame our country's ableism on our lack of social safety nets and universal healthcare... but countries with robust social safety nets are just as ableist as we are, sometimes more so. The abortion rate for fetuses with Down Syndrome is higher in Iceland than in the U.S., even though an Icelandic child with Down Syndrome would have access to healthcare. Iceland, while deeply flawed, has a decent enough social safety net that someone born with Down Syndrome would probably not starve or be homeless. But they would be at the bottom of the social hierarchy. There is still a social hierarchy. Eugenics is still a rational choice. Changing that behavior requires changing the social hierarchy that values so-called "general intelligence" and devalues disabled people.
The same is true of other kinds of eugenics -- as long as raising children is a net financial loss for families, avoiding having children "you can't afford" will remain a rational choice. As long as having children means a decrease in the birthing parent's educational or professional opportunities, people will avoid giving birth to children they "can't afford."
And of course, complete social and economic equality is still a pipe dream. Some people will always be more popular than others. Some talents and abilities will be more valued than others. But the goal has to be complete equality, or else eugenics will continue to be a rational choice.
The sickening thing about the fact that transfeminists keep claiming that any acknowledgement of transandrophobia or even just any acknowledgement that trans men are oppressed/not the same as cis men/do not have male privilege/etc makes someone a (T)MRA is that they don't believe that. They don't actually believe transmascs who talk about their own oppression or who want to protect trans men from discriminatory laws are actual men's rights activists. They know that trans men aren't following that belief system and they know trans men aren't welcome in MRA spaces and they know the argument transmascs are making has nothing to do with MRAs.
I'm not gonna give them the benefit of pretending to be stupid, they are fully aware transandrophobia, and the fight to destroy it, has nothing to do with MRAs or the incel movement. They know the goals are different, they know trans men face legitimate discrimination. They fucking know these things aren't the same, it's not a genuine belief they hold because they are stupid but they aren't THAT fucking stupid. They know.
They are comparing them maliciously and we need to, genuinely, stop entertaining this distraction. We need to stop writing up big posts pointing out the differences between these movements because they know they aren't the same. We need to stop clarifying the differences because they genuinely don't need to be taught, they know, they just want to catch you up in semantics instead of talking about the actual point. Same as the people who claim trans activism is the same as pedophilia defending or Mysogny.
Those groups don't genuinely believe that, they just like to stop you up and distract you so you don't call them out for whatever they are doing to hurt you with said accusation or stop you from talking about it because you're too busy proving trans rights activism that centers trans men, or trans men's issues in general, are not the same as men's rights activism. They know they aren't the same, they know they don't have the same views, they are just trying to make you stumble to make you look stupid or score some Internet points. It's catchy and easy to throw out a bullshit accusation but it's hard to disprove it without writing an essay about the differences. That's why they do it, it's how bigots attempt to debate or how conspiracy theorists make shit up, they expect you to take the burden of proving them wrong when they need to prove why they say that on sound reasoning. They don't have to prove their beliefs to other people who already hate the group, they aren't even putting in the effort to source their accusations, so don't put in the full effort to disprove them. Just look at them and say " I'm not going to entertain baseless accusations when we both know you don't genuinely believe that.".
It's one thing to inform a genuinely uninformed person but don't be naive, transfeminists know the people fighting against transandrophobia aren't the same nor even comparable to men's rights activists, they just compare them to hurt transmascs and to justify, to themselves, why they should ignore transmascs proving them wrong. You need to either start calling them out for being disingenuous when they say it or ignore them. Stop giving them attention on shit they know isn't true but hurts you anyway.
Please please please think of trans people of color when youâre going to make a generalized statement. When youâre making posts about passing tips, medical treatments for transitioning, even light hearted stereotypes include people of color in your sentiments.
As a black trans person it is so fucking isolating to see stuff Iâm supposed to relate to only to find that they werenât talking about me or people like me.
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Something I donât see talked about much is how predatorjacketing is a very common experience for trans men and mascs, especially from within our own community.
Our proximity to manhood and/or maleness is seen as a de facto link to predatory behavior, and in fact, is seen as somehow affirming to be called as such because man = predator. We are constantly told we must be held to account for the actions of (overwhelmingly and primarily) cis men, because otherwise weâre saying weâre not really men (ignoring that many of us arenât, but thatâs an exorsexist tangent for another day) because thatâs what masculinity is. If we donât identify with and apologize for it, weâre accused of not really being trans. It quickly becomes clear that a lot of these supposedly âwokeâ and âgender liberationistâ people still subscribe to the idea that men will always be the predator and women the prey, so in their eyes when a trans man says he is a victim he is basically calling himself a woman, and when a trans woman is accused of assault people are basically calling her a man. This outdated view of gender dynamics being transposed onto trans people isnât altogether surprising, but itâs incredibly frustrating how often itâs used to categorize people with the insistence that itâs just the way things are.
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