every time I see more of the âao3 is evilâ crap circulating I think, âwell, tumblr is evil too and I donât see you stop using itâ
You know, the more I think about this, the more I think the real complaint isnât that AO3 hosts âevilâ content, itâs that it doesnât allow harassment/dogpiling of âevilâ creators as easily as Tumblr. Abuse wonât remove or even re-tag a work except in a handful of very specific cases, but they will suspend or ban users for harassment, including filing repeated unfounded Abuse reports. Authors also have at least some ability to screen/block comments on works, and thereâs no direct messaging system outside of commenting on works through which to pursue harassment. You can follow a creator but you canât block them (much less encourage others to do the same). Tumblr, by contrast, generally ignores any abuse report that doesnât involve the DMCA, and aggressive anons can and have driven bloggers off the site entirely. The fact that the same tactics are used by social justice bloggers and neo-Nazis (for instance) doesnât matter â theyâre the affordances of the site, by accident or design, and an entire fannish generation have gotten very used to performing their fannish (and moral) identity in this fashion. (I thinks itâs relevant that AO3 was designed by fandomâs LJ generation and in some respect mirrors the affordances of LJ circa 2010. Tumblr is a very different site and that, moreso than age differences, seems to be at the root of this â though of course age intersect with site experience in a non-trivial way.)
ding ding ding ding.
Ao3 requires you to police your own consumption of content. Ao3 wonât let you destroy someoneâs online presence simply because you donât like it.  Ao3 wonât let you impose your own morality on other without cause. If you have issues with this, and the fact that Ao3 requires you to have responsibility and agency, then you seriously need to sit down and have a damned good long hard look at yourself.
The question I usually fail to see being answered when people bitch about the content on AO3 is - so who gets to decide?
You? Me? A committee of my friends? Of yours? Of those who have the most kudos? Of those who have no interest in fandom, but want to protect other people from dangerous content, whatever it may be? Who gets that power, and how long will they have it?
Who are you comfortable with giving the power of regulating all the content? What happens in grey areas? What happens when something you like isnât liked by the Decider? Is there an appeal? Who gets to make the arguments for and against something?
The world is complex and there are no easy answers.
The impossibility of creating a censorship board that curates based on content is a great reason why those things donât exist, and shouldnât.
Certain people are screaming that AO3 is bad because itâs not a âsafe space.â The real problem they have, though, is that AO3 was created to be a safe space - for writers. And it does a pretty good job of that. It was designed to be a place where writers are safe from arbitrary content rule changes, random and unwarned deletions, and abuse-report abuse (which is common on ff.net). The Four Big Warnings + CNTW system is beautiful in its fairness and simplicity.
Antis canât take control of it. And because control-freakdom is at the heart of their âmovement,â this drives them into frenzies. Good. It motivated me to dig a little deeper into my pocket to donate on the last drive. For all the pleasure AO3 has given me over the years, thatâs money well spent.
The real problem they have, though, is that AO3 was created to be a safe space - for writers.Â
Preach it loud and hard!
Iâm a member of the LJ generation, and when I first came to Tumblr (grudgingly and out of desperation, I might add, since it tragically seems to be the only place to really connect with other fandom peeps) I was horrified at how people here had established this sort of fucked up bully culture, where nobody is responsible for monitoring their own consumption, and rather they expect everyone else to custom tailor content to the whims and desires of the Shrieking Banshee Masses. And woe be to the person who doesnât bend and break! âIâm going to bully you while accusing you and your Big Mean Poopie Content of being the actual bully, so I can hopefully distract you and others from realizing Iâm being a royal intrusive asshat who failed Astronomy 101 b/c I clearly believe the world revolves around me.â
The irony here is that this in itself is an abuse tactic - victim blaming with a side of gaslighting. Pot, meet kettle.
And itâs the exact same mentality that drives right-wing lunatics to kick up a fuss about the existence of icky cootie gay people in media because we need to âprotect family valuesâ, or who take to screeching at Starbucks because their particular religious symbolism isnât portrayed on the winter holiday cups and OMG WAR ON CHRISTMAS, STARBUCKS STOP OPPRESSING ME BY NOT CATERING TO MY PERSONAL TASTE.
The mentality is one and the same - âCater to ME ME ME or FACE MY DIVINE WRATH even if it means taking away other peopleâs freedom!â while hiding behind a flimsy-ass shield of faux righteous anger. Â
And when these bozos find an environment or situation where theyâre unable or not allowed to bully people into silence and submission, they stomp their feet and pitch a tantrum and claim that theyâre the ones being oppressed. Identical shit, different pile, and itâs the exact same infantile, schoolyard rubbish no matter which side itâs coming from.
This was a really interesting read. The last poster in particular but all of it.



















