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most annoying thing about the new tideland server wank going on rn is everyone latching onto it being about “gurathin discourse” when really it’s about server mods bullying, censuring, and randomly striking and banning multiple specific server members they don’t like, who ask for help in the “wrong” way. for years. haha
6 years of me chilling in this fandom and 4 of them watching NT mods get progressively high on their own power. nuts
You would think so but it was just as bad when that server was small, had around 200 members. It really only depends on people who moderate the server.
most annoying thing about the new tideland server wank going on rn is everyone latching onto it being about “gurathin discourse” when really it’s about server mods bullying, censuring, and randomly striking and banning multiple specific server members they don’t like, who ask for help in the “wrong” way. for years. haha
6 years of me chilling in this fandom and 4 of them watching NT mods get progressively high on their own power. nuts
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The Murderbot Diaries are a power fantasy about being aromantic and still developing extremely important dedicated emotionally intimate partnerships where you are a top priority in a person's life, equal to their other family or romantic attachments despite your own emotional difficulties. And having guns in your arms
Good rule of thumb is the more people of different backgrounds you know, the harder it becomes to dehumanize them, so its a really good thing to meet people from different backgrounds, and anyone telling you that people from x culture or y country you really shouldnt interact with probably dont have your best interest in mind
Since the mods dearest of certain pro-Gurathin server, decided to call out requesters of MB/M channels over a couple of years, I think I'm allowed to speak out as one of the people who requested that channel when the server was 3-4 months old and had around 200 people.
At the time me and people I interacted most with were being constantly moved around by four of the original mods. Either to threads or to new channels made so we wouldn't talk as much in general nsfw channel, I suppose. One of them: secunit-shagshack thread, if I remember correctly, was actually requested by me. The mods made it basically on the same day. But when I noticed that all mods at the time were big mensahbot fans and there was a lot of discussion around that ship also coming from server members - I was in favor of making a dedicated channel for that ship - the same way there was a MBG or ARTMB channels.
I didn't know at the time that mod's pet ship had to be talked about everywhere, that asking to make a dedicated space for it was a crime. And I admit, I did not share that ship. And that I was unpleasantly surprised to see it in gen nsfw channel - don't go away yet! - at the time that server had a special "no humans" shipping role. Except that preference didn't apply everywhere - it only applied to sfw shipping channels as it later became clear. So my unpleasant surprise was mostly because I thought I would NOT see any MB/human shipping (including MBG or any other MB/human ship) because of the role I choose while entering the server. But just that one lukewarm expression of surprise (I said something like "one fear" - I don't remember the exact words but it was the furthest thing from some imaginary "wider campaign") was enough to paint a fat black target on my back.
From that moment on, mod's buddies would harass me, the mods would harass me and some of my then friends who agreed with me. Just after 3 months on the server I had leave for few months due to all the stress and heartache it caused me. I was asked by one of the mods to explain my personal trauma in detail - something that is intrusive and wholly unacceptable. Afterwards the same one of them told me that a better space for me would be the other non-shippy server (the one all the other mods and future mods painted as the worst place on earth - which is something they still do to this day) would be a great fit for me. Me, who mostly interacts with the fandom via shipping. It was all packaged in nice words, but the intent was clear. Go away to a place we think sucks. Leave this server. But of course, I didn't do anything to warrant kicking me out and people were already feeling like the server was imploding.
This is the full recounting of my involvement with mensahbot channel creation topic. I did nothing else regarding the ship or the shippers of that pair. I had not asked for any new channels or threads since then and limited my interactions as much as possible.
There's so much more to the whole story, but my mood is already sour enough and it's Sunday as I write this, and I don't know if they haven't deleted everything that showed them in a bad light anyway. Not that I could see any of that - in the end I was kicked or banned (I still don't know which, no matter how much I asked) without heads up or any reason given after 3 months of me not being active at all. I had no chance to archive my noodling and comments under my art. Mods explained to me that if I wanted to publicly discuss this issue I would forfeit my right to the privacy. It might have been the privacy of our interactions, but the only privacy they're trying to protect is their own.
And if they meant privacy in the wider meaning of the word, then the current mods have my name and address and could try to use that data against me.
The first drama pretty much almost killed the server. One mod left after finally blowing up at needling of one of the mod's buddies to remove me. The mods learned their lesson and now know how to hide the harassment behind closed doors. They would even adopt new mods and set them against people with whom they had a silly beef OVER SHIPPING. It could be unserious if they haven't hurt so many people. It evolved into something way more dire and actually dangerous to all people on their server who might catch their negative attention. Because of their harassment life was and still is in danger. It was that traumatic.
To summarize, dear Mods Dearest, DO NOT ever mention me, not even in the most vague of ways especially if you're about to LIE to people.
And a link to a post by Indigo who got fucked over by Mods Dearest as well (especially one of them). As someone who got their work plagiarized in the past, my heart goes to them. It really should be easy to be at least a decent person and credit people where its due.
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Since the mods dearest of certain pro-Gurathin server, decided to call out requesters of MB/M channels over a couple of years, I think I'm allowed to speak out as one of the people who requested that channel when the server was 3-4 months old and had around 200 people.
At the time me and people I interacted most with were being constantly moved around by four of the original mods. Either to threads or to new channels made so we wouldn't talk as much in general nsfw channel, I suppose. One of them: secunit-shagshack thread, if I remember correctly, was actually requested by me. The mods made it basically on the same day. But when I noticed that all mods at the time were big mensahbot fans and there was a lot of discussion around that ship also coming from server members - I was in favor of making a dedicated channel for that ship - the same way there was a MBG or ARTMB channels.
I didn't know at the time that mod's pet ship had to be talked about everywhere, that asking to make a dedicated space for it was a crime. And I admit, I did not share that ship. And that I was unpleasantly surprised to see it in gen nsfw channel - don't go away yet! - at the time that server had a special "no humans" shipping role. Except that preference didn't apply everywhere - it only applied to sfw shipping channels as it later became clear. So my unpleasant surprise was mostly because I thought I would NOT see any MB/human shipping (including MBG or any other MB/human ship) because of the role I choose while entering the server. But just that one lukewarm expression of surprise (I said something like "one fear" - I don't remember the exact words but it was the furthest thing from some imaginary "wider campaign") was enough to paint a fat black target on my back.
From that moment on, mod's buddies would harass me, the mods would harass me and some of my then friends who agreed with me. Just after 3 months on the server I had leave for few months due to all the stress and heartache it caused me. I was asked by one of the mods to explain my personal trauma in detail - something that is intrusive and wholly unacceptable. Afterwards the same one of them told me that a better space for me would be the other non-shippy server (the one all the other mods and future mods painted as the worst place on earth - which is something they still do to this day) would be a great fit for me. Me, who mostly interacts with the fandom via shipping. It was all packaged in nice words, but the intent was clear. Go away to a place we think sucks. Leave this server. But of course, I didn't do anything to warrant kicking me out and people were already feeling like the server was imploding.
This is the full recounting of my involvement with mensahbot channel creation topic. I did nothing else regarding the ship or the shippers of that pair. I had not asked for any new channels or threads since then and limited my interactions as much as possible.
There's so much more to the whole story, but my mood is already sour enough and it's Sunday as I write this, and I don't know if they haven't deleted everything that showed them in a bad light anyway. Not that I could see any of that - in the end I was kicked or banned (I still don't know which, no matter how much I asked) without heads up or any reason given after 3 months of me not being active at all. I had no chance to archive my noodling and comments under my art. Mods explained to me that if I wanted to publicly discuss this issue I would forfeit my right to the privacy. It might have been the privacy of our interactions, but the only privacy they're trying to protect is their own.
And if they meant privacy in the wider meaning of the word, then the current mods have my name and address and could try to use that data against me.
The first drama pretty much almost killed the server. One mod left after finally blowing up at needling of one of the mod's buddies to remove me. The mods learned their lesson and now know how to hide the harassment behind closed doors. They would even adopt new mods and set them against people with whom they had a silly beef OVER SHIPPING. It could be unserious if they haven't hurt so many people. It evolved into something way more dire and actually dangerous to all people on their server who might catch their negative attention. Because of their harassment life was and still is in danger. It was that traumatic.
To summarize, dear Mods Dearest, DO NOT ever mention me, not even in the most vague of ways especially if you're about to LIE to people.
haaaaze <333 when I first came to murderbot fandom I didn't really think we were going to be friends (for two people with such similar tastes we have very different tastes 😂) but in the end I'm very glad to have had the chance to get to know you. you are one of the most resilient people I know, and I wish you didn't have to be, but I'm grateful for the community that you've built in defiance of your own unpleasant experiences. you're a good friend, a great mod, and I'm proud to have put together the mutual rapport event with you
Fabuuuuu <3 <3 <3 Thank you for this sweet message!! I'm trying! I don't want to be resilient, I just want to be left alone and to be able to enjoy my favourite blorbos with so many other amazing people. But it is what it is.
I think we have some similar tastes and some different which is very normal and natural and actually fun because when your tastes differ that opens you to new ideas you might actually like too! Like uncle Gurathin who is very into *beep*, *beep* and *beep* :D
I'm so happy I have met you and that we got to make an event together <3 You're so well organized and Mutual Rapport wouldn't be as fun of an event without you! You are an amazing friend and I cherish you greatly and your support means so much, you have no idea :,)
I have a medical condition where no matter how many people are in a room I will find the one person who likes me the absolute least and become desperate for their approval
I spoke to the doctor about this and she prescribed 100mg of "stop giving a fuck about people who hate you", hiding it in a spoonful of peanut butter labeled "the people who care about you deserve more of your time"
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My personal experience with the moderators of New Tideland, specifically, Gamebird
I would like to thank Haze for their bravery in coming forward with their experience with the moderators of New Tideland. In support of Haze, I would like to share my experience with being plagiarized by Gamebird, who is one of the most prominent moderators of the server and the owner of a large Murderbot community here on tumblr.
I don't want this to come across as an attack on anyone who is just casually a member of NT and enjoys its community. I am sure there is a lot to love in that community for many people. However, I think this occurs in spite of, not because of, its leadership.
I would like to emphasize that all of the events I am going to describe happened after Gamebird became a moderator of NT in September 2024. I don't want anyone to harass Gamebird or the other NT mods about this, or anything like that. If she was just another member of the fandom, I would complain to my friends and we would block each other and that would be it. But she continually places herself in positions of authority and has, at least in her interactions with me, abused it. So I think her behavior, and the behavior of the other moderators of NT in dismissing it, is relevant in evaluating if you think NT's leadership can be trusted to nurture a safe environment for everyone, or only for themselves and their friends.
For context: I do not regularly participate in the Murderbot fandom on Tumblr, but I have been a regular on The Murderbot Diaries 2.0 discord server under my chosen name, Prism, since December 2020. You may also be familiar with my fanfiction under the pen name "mensah" (formerly "lick") on AO3. I joined NT shortly after it was founded in 2022, but never posted more than a handful of messages there.
Although I was not an active member on NT, I would occasionally search my name and the names of some of my fics there, as I do on other servers including 2.0. I would do this because I would sometimes find conversations where people had discussed my fics, and I always liked reading those conversations. While doing this in late December 2024, I found a message Gamebird had sent in NT which included a word document in which she had collected various timelines of the series.
When I saw this, I remembered that a few days previously, I had seen Gamebird promoting a reference she published on AO3 attempting to construct a timeline of The Murderbot Diaries books. When I looked at it, I discovered that the A/N credited me as Prism, among a handful of other individuals. I was initially miffed because while Prism is my chosen name, it cannot be used to locate me on AO3 or Tumblr, so it was not an appropriate way to credit whatever contribution I had made to the work.
Upon closer investigation, however, I discovered that the section of the timeline covering books 1-4 was largely directly copy-pasted from a timeline published here on tumblr by another fan, and a timeline that I had posted on 2.0 in 2023 (1, 2). The extent of the copy-pasting can be seen in these images:
I confronted Gamebird in the comments at the time, and she expressed that she was glad that she had "found me". In light of the message that I had originally seen on NT, I realized that she had essentially been copy-pasting various fandom resources into a private document on her computer with only minimal notes about the sources. It appeared that when she decided to collate the sources into a single timeline on AO3 she made no effort to trace the original source or contact the creators before publishing on AO3.
I ended up demanding co-author status on the work, since I had literally written a part of it. I did not receive an apology from her for her behavior until over a month later, when I disclosed to the 2.0 server mod who had mediated the conflict that she had not apologized to me.
Ever since this happened, whenever she promoted or talked about this timeline, she talks about the timeline as if it was a collaborative effort rather than plagiarized work she was forced to give co-credit for. When I called her out for doing this in the past on tumblr, she asked me to keep things private.
Towards the end of 2025, Gamebird started being kind of weird about the fact that I have different usernames while talking about me on NT, including using me as an example of an individual on 2.0 who "change[s] their name[] often" (1, 2). This pissed me off because I interpreted it as an attempt to justify her failure to appropriately credit me. It was also not true: I have not changed my tumblr URL since 2018. I have never used any display name on 2.0 other than Prism, or my nickname, Pris. I changed my AO3 username exactly once since joining the fandom, in May 2025. Also, even outside of our personal history, I thought it was just an inappropriate way for her to talk about another member of the fandom.
When I opened a ticket to try to talk to the other NT moderators about my concerns regarding her ongoing behavior around this conflict, I was completely dismissed. I was told that in the future I should "self-regulate" and settle personal grievances outside of the server, which is very funny in light of NT's recent policy change, in which they have started disciplining fans for behavior in interpersonal disputes occurring outside of the server.
My entire dispute with Gamebird could have been avoided if she had simply respected other members of the fandom enough to reach out to me privately about my timeline before publishing it on AO3. If she had, I probably would've told her that it was okay, or possibly asked to lightly edit the writing because what I had posted on 2.0 was a rough personal reference, and I probably would not have requested co-author status. Instead, she barreled forward without even trying to figure out who I was, tried to cover it up, and has continuously promoted the timeline despite me being very clear that I wanted to forget its existence.
I would like to reiterate that every single one of these events happened while Gamebird was an NT moderator. After I finally left NT this morning, I discovered that they quickly banned me. As you can imagine, it fucking sucks to get plagiarized by a moderator of the largest Discord server in the fandom, and then have her hold a grudge against you because you refused to roll over and let her do what she wanted.
Since the mods dearest of certain pro-Gurathin server, decided to call out requesters of MB/M channels over a couple of years, I think I'm allowed to speak out as one of the people who requested that channel when the server was 3-4 months old and had around 200 people.
At the time me and people I interacted most with were being constantly moved around by four of the original mods. Either to threads or to new channels made so we wouldn't talk as much in general nsfw channel, I suppose. One of them: secunit-shagshack thread, if I remember correctly, was actually requested by me. The mods made it basically on the same day. But when I noticed that all mods at the time were big mensahbot fans and there was a lot of discussion around that ship also coming from server members - I was in favor of making a dedicated channel for that ship - the same way there was a MBG or ARTMB channels.
I didn't know at the time that mod's pet ship had to be talked about everywhere, that asking to make a dedicated space for it was a crime. And I admit, I did not share that ship. And that I was unpleasantly surprised to see it in gen nsfw channel - don't go away yet! - at the time that server had a special "no humans" shipping role. Except that preference didn't apply everywhere - it only applied to sfw shipping channels as it later became clear. So my unpleasant surprise was mostly because I thought I would NOT see any MB/human shipping (including MBG or any other MB/human ship) because of the role I choose while entering the server. But just that one lukewarm expression of surprise (I said something like "one fear" - I don't remember the exact words but it was the furthest thing from some imaginary "wider campaign") was enough to paint a fat black target on my back.
From that moment on, mod's buddies would harass me, the mods would harass me and some of my then friends who agreed with me. Just after 3 months on the server I had leave for few months due to all the stress and heartache it caused me. I was asked by one of the mods to explain my personal trauma in detail - something that is intrusive and wholly unacceptable. Afterwards the same one of them told me that a better space for me would be the other non-shippy server (the one all the other mods and future mods painted as the worst place on earth - which is something they still do to this day) would be a great fit for me. Me, who mostly interacts with the fandom via shipping. It was all packaged in nice words, but the intent was clear. Go away to a place we think sucks. Leave this server. But of course, I didn't do anything to warrant kicking me out and people were already feeling like the server was imploding.
This is the full recounting of my involvement with mensahbot channel creation topic. I did nothing else regarding the ship or the shippers of that pair. I had not asked for any new channels or threads since then and limited my interactions as much as possible.
There's so much more to the whole story, but my mood is already sour enough and it's Sunday as I write this, and I don't know if they haven't deleted everything that showed them in a bad light anyway. Not that I could see any of that - in the end I was kicked or banned (I still don't know which, no matter how much I asked) without heads up or any reason given after 3 months of me not being active at all. I had no chance to archive my noodling and comments under my art. Mods explained to me that if I wanted to publicly discuss this issue I would forfeit my right to the privacy. It might have been the privacy of our interactions, but the only privacy they're trying to protect is their own.
And if they meant privacy in the wider meaning of the word, then the current mods have my name and address and could try to use that data against me.
The first drama pretty much almost killed the server. One mod left after finally blowing up at needling of one of the mod's buddies to remove me. The mods learned their lesson and now know how to hide the harassment behind closed doors. They would even adopt new mods and set them against people with whom they had a silly beef OVER SHIPPING. It could be unserious if they haven't hurt so many people. It evolved into something way more dire and actually dangerous to all people on their server who might catch their negative attention. Because of their harassment life was and still is in danger. It was that traumatic.
To summarize, dear Mods Dearest, DO NOT ever mention me, not even in the most vague of ways especially if you're about to LIE to people.
in 2023 Haze asked for a Mensahbot shipping channel in New Tideland to help server members curate their experience
mods didn't want to do this and repeatedly harassed Haze for the next two years because of this simple request
at one point while attempting to get an answer for why they had been issued a formal strike, Haze was informed by New Tideland's head mod that if they wanted to discuss their situation wrt New Tideland server with anyone else openly, they would "forfeit their right to privacy"
mods never explained what exactly they meant by this but it would be fair for anyone who is a member of NT who's ever had a ticket or private discussion with mods to be concerned about this, and especially so if mods have any identifying information about them
mods eventually kicked Haze from the server with no explanation given and repeatedly refused to discuss the reason for Haze's removal from the server with Haze or anyone else, despite multiple requests for clarity on the issue from multiple people
yesterday mods posted an update to an ongoing discussion about racism, misogyny, and other prevalent biases in the server, insinuating that the reason they feel so concerned about these discussions, and questions of opening new channels for popular ships, is because of their history with Haze, whose character they further assassinated with outright lies
they also implied that the reason Haze was eventually kicked was because they had requested a Mensahbot shipping channel, which mods characterized as "part of a wider campaign to limit the pairing's exposure in the server" – all because they simply asked for the tools to appropriately curate their own fandom experience
Anyway the key takeaway here should really be the part where the mods threatened my friend's privacy in a petty effort to keep them quiet about the prolonged harassment they had faced by the mod team and many of the mods' friends. It's not a good look for a team of mods currently entrusted with the well-being of a community of over 1600 fans.
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