The fundamental difference between Zenos and The Warrior of Light as Written--something that exists regardless of any particular WoL's disposition or motivations, all things subject to personal headcanon--is that the TWoLaW engages deeply with the world around them, and Zenos does not. The fundamental quality of Azem the Traveler, and the quality that is suggested to have been inherited by TWoLaW (and by Ardbert), is that they are deeply engaged with the world, and with its people.
Is it true that TWoLaW is disposed toward violence, sure, absolutely, for reasons of video game mechanics if nothing else. But I fundamentally disagree that violence is the core of TWoLaW regardless of how we roleplay them. At the core of TWoLaW is their engagement with the world. Yes, as a result of that, TWoLaW is willing to go kill people and things because they were asked to. You know what else they're willing to do because someone asked them to? Talk to people. Fetch things for them. Gather resources. Make things. Deliver gifts. Facilitate trade. Learn skills. Build community. Cross the seas to help a new friend. Explore. Uncover ancient mysteries. GO TO SPACE! And if you see Zenos as a foil for the player rather than the character, all this still very much applies.
You can roleplay the most curmudgeonly, antisocial, misanthropic WoL possible, you can even reject all side content and stick solely to MSQ, and you will still find yourself inhabiting a character who, as written, is fundamentally engaged with the world. They don't have to be happy. They don't have to be nice. They don't have to do any of what they're doing out of altruism. They're still making the choice to connect with other people, to invest themselves in the struggles and passions of others, to have a personal stake in shaping the world around them, because that is what the character is written to do.
Zenos's tragic flaw is his inability--and yes, perhaps, on some level, unwillingness--to connect with the world and the people around him. He finds no meaningful engagement with the world except to enact violence upon it. He has no personal investment in the Garlean Empire except as it allows him to enact violence, and by this disengagement he basically singlehandedly allows the entire empire to collapse because he doesn't care about it, only about fulfilling his own desires. The funny thing about Zenos as a foil for the protagonist is that he would make a terrible RPG protagonist. The archetypal RPG protagonist is so defined by their willingness to say yes to menial tasks that are only meaningful to some minor NPC that most modern RPGs end up lampshading that fact in some way, and it's endlessly memed upon. I struggle to imagine Zenos making it through the Company of Heroes fetch quests in ARR without getting bored and stabbing someone.
So all-encompassing is this worldview for him that even upon calling the WoL his only friend, he can find no meaningful engagement with them beyond "let us enact violence upon one another." Even the one person in the world he finds interesting enough to engage with, he is seemingly incapable of understanding on any other level. (And if you play a WoL with a desire to connect with Zenos on any other level, I think there's potential for a really interesting tragedy there! Because he either won't or can't.)
And we don't ever really get to challenge him on how narrow and stifling and miserable his engagement with the world truly is. Maybe there's a flicker of it at the very end, an acknowledgement that his life was fundamentally unfulfilling. Perhaps Zenos even sees, on some level, what the WoL has that he does not; maybe unconsciously in pursuing them, he seeks to figure out what that thing is. But then he dies, in his chosen manner, after getting the same one thing he's been pursuing as long as we've known him. That's what's sad about Zenos on a narrative level. Not that he dies, but that he dies unchanged and unchallenged.
And this is why I just can never quite get behind the idea that the core of the WoL is the same as the core of Zenos--no matter how many people the Warrior of Light has killed. I just don't believe that. When I look at TWoLaW, I see a character deeply engaged with the world. When I look at Zenos I see a character who never truly connects with anyone or anything outside himself.
There was a WoLQotD over on Bluesky and the responses to it have provoked some thoughts I've been marinating on for a couple of days, which I considered making their own post but I think they're too relevant to this post, so an addendum!
Thing is, if someone in Zenos' position wanted to make a strong case for the Warrior of Light being like him, it would be pretty natural to bring up some of the shit the Warrior of Light does in ARR expressively in service of suppressing marginalized peoples around Eorzea and upholding existing power structures. Because in their service to the city-states and in their opposition to the surrounding societies (many of them displaced by settlers!) the Warrior of Light definitely has done some thing that are pretty difficult to morally defend. And not just the Warrior of Light, the Scions generally--I have written before about how the Archons arriving in Eorzea and presenting their very incomplete understanding of primal summonings to Eorzea's leaders probably did a lot to further degrade societal relations and stoke xenophobic sentiment. The Scions and the Warrior of Light have served questionable and outright immoral interests, without question. That certainly would be a valid comparison and a history worth confronting. And forcing us to confront it expressly within the context of Stormblood's anti-colonial anti-imperialist story would be a very pointed way of challenging this image of the Warrior of Light as a hero who's always been on the side of good.
But equally interesting, I think, is the fact that Zenos doesn't actually make that argument, that the character as written wouldn't make that argument.
If any character would do that, it'd be Gaius Baelsar, who is actually a True Believer in the civilizing and stabilizing power of the Empire, who actively tries to recruit the Warrior of Light to serve the Empire because he sees their interests as aligned, and who seems disappointed and even somewhat surprised that the Warrior of Light turns him down without engaging with his argument. Gaius is a deeply political character, whose violence is explicitly in service of an ideal--and because of this, Gaius is able to be persuaded, and to redirect his violent skillset when he sees his ideals as aligned elsewhere. I would argue that Gaius was in fact right about his interests being aligned with the Warrior of Light in specific ways, that Gaius is in fact rather like the Warrior of Light, for all the reasons listed above: highly skilled at violence, highly engaged with the world and what he sees as its ills, willing to employ that violence as a solution, and willing to redirect it when he sees a flaw in his previous thinking.
Zenos on the other hand doesn't care enough about either the empire he ostensibly serves or the actual things the Warrior of Light has done for any of those entirely obvious parallels to matter to him. The argument he presents to the Warrior of Light regarding their similarities has nothing to do with violence in service of structural power. Instead it is this:
Man should fight for the joy of it. To live, to eat, to breed─lesser beasts snap and howl at one another for this. Only man has the wisdom and the clarity to embrace violence for its own sake. For we who are born into this merciless, meaningless world, have but one candle of life to burn. I know you understand this. You and I are one and the same.
His claim in Stormblood is explicitly that he and the Warrior of Light employ violence not simply in service of empire but for its own sake. Which is a far more assailable argument, given everything else we know about the Warrior of Light! Of course for some characters this will resonate. I think it's hard to argue that the Warrior of Light as written doesn't find some enjoyment in combat! But I think it's worth considering that even the oft-cited Dark Knight questline ultimately concludes that it was all about love, really. That the violence, no matter how naturally it came to the Dark Knight, was never purely for its own sake, but in service of love... which makes it particularly ironic that Dark Knight seems to be the go-to storyline for defending Zenos's claims as true on their face. (Besides which, what other job stories say about the WoL aren't any less true that Dark Knight, but even Dark Knight I think doesn't quite say what people will sometimes suggest it does.)
The recent question "Was Zenos right about your WoL?" had me thinking, "Well, right about what exactly?" and drove me back to MSQ dialogue to look at the things Zenos actually says. I stand behind what I said about their fundamental difference being engagement with the world. And on further reflection I think that Zenos, in the end, does give a kind of acknowledgment of this. When we face him for the final time in Ultima Thule, Zenos has somewhat modified his argument. It still has nothing to do with violence in service of empire; he still doesn't care about that. What he does say is, "You value life. You do not burn yours save for reasons you deem worthy." In that, I think Zenos does strike on something about the Warrior of Light that he wasn't willing to see before, if only to acknowledge that he doesn't understand it.
I want to elaborate on what I said above on the real tragedy of Zenos being that by the time he meets the Warrior of Light, someone he wants to connect with, he has basically become incapable of doing so, and perhaps unwilling to do so. Regardless of how the Warrior of Light responds to Zenos' invitation of friendship in Stormblood, whether they accept or deny him, the outcome is ultimately the same. In fact, he actually seems more satisfied if he is rejected, thereby affirming the necessity of their conflict. Should the Warrior of Light accept him, Zenos almost rebukes them for it. He mocks them, even. "Do our deeds weigh so little that you would cast all aside? Come. 'Twas plain from the first how this would end."
This is a pretty crucial piece of characterization, I think! If the Warrior of Light accepts Zenos' offer of friendship, he subsequently rejects that acceptance. He mocks the very idea of their coming together in true companionship! Because he can't conceive of any connection between them besides violence. I think it is actually so meaningful that the Warrior of Light can't accept Zenos' offer of friendship in any way that matters. Even at the very end, in their final conflict in Endwalker, as Zenos ostensibly gets everything he wanted, he dies seemingly with a sense of dissatisfaction, still lamenting his detachment from those around him and the utterly fleeting nature of any satisfaction he did find.
And in this I see affirmed a truth about Zenos that I also saw in "The Hunt Begins." I don't believe that Zenos' lack of connection with others is an immutable condition he cannot change. Because his actions toward the Warrior of Light speak of a desire for connection, as well as a self-sabotaging rejection of it.
"The Hunt Begins" is, in my opinion, bad, in the way a lot of attempts to write Genius Kids are bad; it is a fundamentally contradictory narrative about a boy who is at once completely bored with life but also a voracious reader with basically unlimited access to books, utterly detached from his lessons but also constantly delivering brilliant insights to his instructors. Because of its inherent contradictions I mostly have to take an adversarial reading of it to get anything useful out of it, which means my conclusions are almost certainly not authorial intent, but I'm prepared to argue that they make more sense and harmonize better with the character we actually meet in the game. In writing about this story I have asked the question: Is Zenos' brilliance actually the source of his isolation, or does he just believe all other people are beneath him?
And now I'd like to add: is Zenos' inability to connect with other people an inherent trait, or is it the product of a child raised with no familial affection, surrounded by people he was explicitly taught to see as things: servants and subjects?
The latter interpretation certainly has a lot more to say about empire, doesn't it?
Even if it forces us to confront the possibility that Zenos' detachment is not innate, but learned, and therefore could be unlearned. Even if, combined with his seeming rejection of the Warrior of Light's acceptance, it could lead us to conclude that in an adult man this detachment is on some level a choice he is making and continues to make until the day he dies (for real this time).
In fact, in all these I think I'm willing to amend one of my previous conclusions about Zenos, that he ultimately gets what he wants in the final battle in Endwalker. I don't think he actually does, because there was never any way for us to give him what he actually lacks: a connection beyond violence, beyond conflict. Offered this, he would ultimately reject it, just as he did in Ala Mhigo. He desires a satisfaction he will never find, because he has ultimately denied it to himself.
Is Zenos right about the Warrior of Light? Of course the devil is in the details, and those details will differ for every character, and I'm certainly not here to contradict anyone's conclusions for their own OC. But even in the broad sense, when it comes to the Warrior of Light as Written, I think the answer is: no, and yes. There is a spark of understanding there that remains ultimately incomplete, because it never could be complete, because Zenos himself, who he is and has chosen to be, will not allow for a complete understanding of a person as adept with violence as he is yet deeply engaged with the world outside themselves in ways that go beyond violence.
The Warrior of Light doesn't need to prove Zenos right or wrong. His worldview is ultimately self-sabotaging and self-defeating. As the product of the Empire's indifference to life, Zenos's own indifference ultimately destroys both the empire and himself.
Anya is live and ready to show you everything. Watch her strip, dance, and perform exclusive shows just for you. Interact in real-time and make your fantasies come true.
✓ Live Streaming✓ Interactive Chat✓ Private Shows✓ HD Quality✓ Free Actions
Free to watch • No registration required • HD streaming
Your dialogue is stiff because everyone is being too honest
Great dialogue can come from radical emotional honesty. But in most real conversations, people
dodge questions
answer indirectly
lie (badly)
change the subject
crack jokes to avoid serious answers
lie (convincingly)
say half of what they mean
tell the truth but get so anxious/angry/defensive others now think they're lying
If your dialogue feels unnatural, it might be because everyone is saying exactly what they think, or articulating their thoughts too well. Try letting characters hide things instead.
Anya is live and ready to show you everything. Watch her strip, dance, and perform exclusive shows just for you. Interact in real-time and make your fantasies come true.
✓ Live Streaming✓ Interactive Chat✓ Private Shows✓ HD Quality✓ Free Actions
Free to watch • No registration required • HD streaming
Grandma and Grandpa had a shotgun wedding when Grandma was 19. Grandpa went off to Vietnam which left her, a severely mentally young mother, alone. Never heard a complaint about her side piece Jeff. He seemed to make her happy and for that I salute him.
there is this really specific thing that very Online women of a certain age (mostly older millennials and younger gen x in my experience) who are married to a man will do where they will refer to their husbands as "Mr. (Part of My Username)"
so like if the username is something like "dancingwithbears" they'll refer to their husband as "Mr. Bears"
In every way this is set up to be a joke like any other short video, it even uses the trope of main character in a wig to represent their mom, but it isn't funny at all. It's just sweet and nice
Anya is live and ready to show you everything. Watch her strip, dance, and perform exclusive shows just for you. Interact in real-time and make your fantasies come true.
✓ Live Streaming✓ Interactive Chat✓ Private Shows✓ HD Quality✓ Free Actions
Free to watch • No registration required • HD streaming
to be clear you SHOULD buy that cast iron pan and you SHOULD buy that knife set and you SHOULD buy that fancy rice cooker and you SHOULD buy that novelty mug. high quality kitchenware is always worth it you’re literally gonna be using that almost every day
I haven’t even seen this movie but I need you to see this Letterboxd review of The Housemaid - the discord server I’m in and I have been losing our minds over it
Anya is live and ready to show you everything. Watch her strip, dance, and perform exclusive shows just for you. Interact in real-time and make your fantasies come true.
✓ Live Streaming✓ Interactive Chat✓ Private Shows✓ HD Quality✓ Free Actions
Free to watch • No registration required • HD streaming
i hate that diet culture means all the tasty drinks everywhere are loaded with stevia now. this isn't even a stance about health, I just think it tastes so fucking bad
stevia is cross-reactive with a common environmental allergen: ragweed! if you've been drinking your fun little drinky drinks & have been feeling off there's a chance you're actually allergic!
I can't have artificial sweeteners because they give me migraines. I can't have stevia because I have an anaphylactic reaction. this new wave of "make everything 0 sugar" coming back into fashion could literally kill me if I'm not careful. nothing is safe, nothing is sacred, if I'm getting a little treat, better check the ingredients in case they changed em! :)