Why do guys have a problem with prideful? Iām sorry but that makes sense to me he is the more prideful out of all of them. Itās not really a bad thing it just informs more of his actions. (Obviously they all have various levels of pride) they mean louis would no way stoop down low enough to give armand what he wants in a regular sense. (And he wouldnāt get have that character arc of him not excepting what was wrong with loumand, but understanding it) louis didnāt care about him after Dubai, he wouldnāt even listen to him trying to make amends? Cmon, lestat is at least clown/attention seeking enough that you can poke him to make fun of you or give attention to you. And he does, that what brat means, Itās childish defience. What sets apart louis is that he isnāt childish, and his pride is one of his core characteristics. Armand knew he wouldnāt be able convince louis to take him seriously again/or give attention to him. Rollin also says he goes to this obv from the most fucked up route because he is Armand he is spiriling etc. you guys need to be able wrap your head around the horror of it a little bit. This is a good moment for louis, he can protect his pride -he didnāt just give something to Armand willingly because he knows he doesnāt deserve it, while still needing to get out a lingering guilt he has over the the fact that he did see/interact armand in a very vulnerable place -and know about a very vulnerable fact about him, but couldnāt sympathize with him before because they werenāt in a good relationship. And Armand had power over him. It instead built biterness and resentment. Itās still a fucked up scene, but rollin isnāt talking about it as if it wasnāt. Idk, I genuinely donāt understand rejecting the fact that louis is prideful. This isnāt about what armand deserves, itās about telling a compelling story. They clearly canāt kill off armand, louis havenāt killed armand. Why? They need to make sense how these character can still exist around each other. They have a different understanding of loumand then you guys I get that, I think some of you thought armand would just be over louis. I never thought that, they didnāt have closure. Louis did, but his pride get on the way of him realizing that armand wouldnāt get over it that easily. Thatās what made Louis vulnerable to be malipulated by armand again, because he didnāt think of him as a danger lurking around in the corner. He was entirely dismissive of him when Daniel asked if he knew where armand was. He is convinced he would just disappear like that? This is the blinding part of Louisās pride, just because he is over armand just like that, and he hates him now rightfully so, and doesnāt wanna think or talk about him again, he canāt really anticipate armand harboring any resentment over all of this. Lestat has a different version of that pride as well. But I really believe itās Louisās one of defining characters. And itās not a stand alone negative trait either? At this point I genuinely have to ask what do you think his core traits are, -things that he has more of that separate him from other characters, I donāt like to ever label them as that easily, but some of them have to be positive and negative. Prideful, stubborn, compassionate, introspective, empathetic, melancholic, romantic, avoidant/cold(more as a stress response).. these are things i easily associate him with
Louis in first two seasons of this show had pride but he was in no way āthe most pridefulā especially compared to someone like Lestat who in this very season calls himself a God. Or Daniel?? Louis has always been crippled by self-doubt and self-hatred, that is why wants to kill himself three times. In this season he does not stand up for himself once.
I used to argue about this show all the time on Reddit and people would tell me the most ridiculous things like Louis was not dissociated in 2x06. Am I supposed to pull up screenshots and point at them and say āthis facial expression actually shows what dissociation looks likeā? Am I supposed to point at JAās face and say, āthis is what the human emotion of guilt looks like?ā Am I supposed to go over and over and over again about the context and the reasons as to why Louis does what he does in the first two seasons of this show, which is fundamentally a very basic story unless you donāt want to believe any of it is true?
Watch the show. Pretend that you believe Louis is a person just like the other characters are people. Pretend that you think sometimes what he says are actually how he actually feels instead of just believing that he is lying unless he is degrading himself (this season, because apparently every other time he put himself down in the first two seasons was BS). Then come back and talk to me.
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