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what is with everyone on here being so defensive of their pedobait hentai and why are they accusing you of transmisogyny about it
I wasn’t using this website for a few years and when I came back around 2023 suddenly everyone thought criticizing that kind of thing is inherently coded transmisogyny. I have no idea how or why it got to that point but it seems to be related to the discourses unleashed by the ratliker and megapope sagas as far as I can tell.
I think the rhetorical association of this… taste… with transfemininity is absolutely insane and regressive. It literally feels like a psyop to try and make trans women look bad, which makes it even weirder to me that people insist you’re NOT allowed to say that not all trans women want to fuck suspiciously aged hentai goonculi and that this has no inherent relationship to transfemininity.
The actual reason I suspect people on here are so invested in defending that slop as somehow bound to an identity they consider the most oppressed and therefore the closest to absolute truth (remember that radlibs believe in a kind of Christian “blessed are the poor in spirit” standpoint epistemology and ethics) is because the average user on here is a giga NEET. This type of thing being a part of NEET sexual desire has been built into hentai slop and the relationship it has with its audience at least since the Lost Generation in Japan in the 90s.
You had a bunch of people, mostly men but plenty of women too, become permanently unemployed and basically just want to regress to an idealized childhood innocence forever. For many of them this meant that they began to hold onto desire for children as the embodiment of the promise of an original purity and innocence, and I think it’s not coincidental that it usually involved sibling incest fantasies too (incest fantasies are generally more popular in times where the scope of sociality seems to be collapsing).
Of course, mainstream Oedipal sexuality is pedophilic through and through too. The oedipalization of children, their indoctrination into the nuclear family, is also their first experience with sexualization (though not their first experience with libido). Think about how obsessed parents are with regulating their baby daughters’ behavior down to their posture, and how they train children to see their genitals as their primary erogenous zones through restrictions and taboos around them. And think of how fucking weird fathers and mothers are with their kids, how they become jealous and paranoid about them in ways that are heavily sexually charged.
All this to say that specific variants of pedophilic desire like within otaku sexuality, what this whole thing really is, are neither “subversive” nor are they inherently transfeminine (????). These are basically people desiring absolute purity and an escape from their own adult responsibility, which they feel has not come with the freedom it was promised to be the means for. There are social reasons for why people end up like this, but that’s no excuse for people searching for an escape through narcissistic regression and the fantasy of exploiting children.
It’s fundamentally a reactionary resolution, not at all a subversion. It’s repressing the problem of the Oedipal situation of the nuclear family and trying to escape it by turning the child of the family into an explicit object of adult sexual desire. Specifically through a relationship that’s imagined to be horizontal and premised on a kind of democratic or egalitarian mutual relationship of enjoyment (think of how often they focus on sibling incest), but in reality is a destructive exploitation that imposes the adult’s sexual world on a childish desire that in a genuinely radical way of thinking should be allowed its autonomy and alienness without being forcibly Oedipalized and sexualized. You don’t have to assume children are innocent and pure to oppose pedophilia and pedophilic fantasies, in fact the assumption of purity is itself implicated in the whole pedophilic structure of desire that patriarchal society perpetuates
wait why did the transmisogynist detector flag you as a transmisogynist? probably for the transmisogyny
shocking considering such great posts as this ☝️
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[He didn’t like being questioned… He had this bravado… always trying to make light of everything… this prisoner’s habit of hiding everything serious behind jokes. The bar is higher for them. For instance, he never said the word “freedom”— it was always “the outside”. “Here I am on the outside.” At rare moments, he’d tell stories…. But he’d tell them so vividly, so avidly…. I could just feel the happiness he’d taken out of there: like when he’d gotten his hands on some tire scraps and tied them to his felt boots. When they were transferred, he was so happy to have them! Another time, they’d gotten half a sack of potatoes…. And somewhere “on the outside,” while they were working… somebody had given him a big hunk of meat. That night, in the boiler room, they made soup: “And it was just so good! So wonderful!” When they released him, they gave him a reparation payment for his father. They told him, “We owe you for the house, the furniture…” It ended up being a lot of money. He bought a new suit, a new shirt, new shoes, a camera, and went out to the best restaurant in Moscow, the National, where he ordered the most expensive things on the menu, and cognac, and coffee with their signature dessert. At the end, when he’d eaten his fill, he asked someone to take a picture of him at the happiest moment of his life. “Then, when I got back to my apartment,” he recalled, “I caught myself thinking that I didn’t feel any happiness. In that suit, with that camera… Why wasn’t there any happiness? At that moment, the tires and that soup in the boiler room came back to me— now that was real happiness.” And we’d try to examine it…. like…. what makes happiness? He wouldn’t have given up his years in the camp for anything in the world…. he wouldn’t have changed a thing about his life…. That was his secret treasure trove, his wealth. He was in the camps from when he was sixteen until he was almost thirty.… Count that up…. I asked him, “But what if they’d never arrested you?” He’d make jokes to avoid answering. “I would have been an idiot zooming around in a bright red sports car. The latest model.” Only at the end… the very end, when he was in hospital…. For the first time, he discussed it with me in earnest. “It’s like when you go to the theater. From your seat in the audience, you see a beautiful fairy tale— a carefully decorated set, brilliant actors, mysterious light, but when you go backstage…. As soon as you step into the wings, you see broken planks, rags, unfinished and abandoned canvases… empty vodka bottles, food scraps. There’s no fairy tale. It’s dark and filthy…. It’s like I’d been taken backstage… Do you understand?”]

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There’s an article on the BBC news site about an elderly woman who received awful care, but the article focuses on her being fed cat food by her carer by mistake. The error was spotted after a few mouthfuls because she had 2 carers present and the other noticed that the label clearly said “cat food”.
The article written in a way that makes it clear this is meant to be deeply horrifying but all I can think is “yeah that probably happens all the time but most people don’t have 2:1 care so it never gets spotted or recorded properly”.
Just last month I asked for flavoured water (in the fridge but I didn’t think to specify) and was given bubble mixture (admittedly in an old flavoured water bottle without the label but under the desk, next to the bubble machine I take to Pride). I was thirsty and took two big slurps through a straw so there was no smell to give it away until it was too late and I threw up shortly after (for anyone curious there were bubbles). This carer is genuinely lovely if chronically short on common sense, but I feel safe with him in general.
And a few years ago a carer mixed up my meds and tried giving me 8x the dose of one of my meds over 24hrs. I noticed after only taking twice the prescribed dose and didn’t become seriously ill (I looked it up and if I’d taken all the doses then the mistake could have been fatal). I also found out later that the mistake wasn’t formally recorded anywhere so never officially happened. (This person no longer works in care, no one else is at risk).
Admittedly everyone tells me I have particularly shitty luck with carers. But going by other severely disabled people here I’m not convinced it’s uniquely bad. Also I am able to recognise and communicate errors, people who can’t often receive much worse treatment. But anyway, I’m convinced that way more people are being fed pet food than the BBC seems to think (although I accept that’s hard to prove either way).
This is not a super thought out question, so bear with me please, but I've been watching a modeling reality TV show where contestants used to be allowed to participate as young as 16, causing some of them to drop out of school to participate (not sure if they upped it to 18 now), and it just made me wonder in terms of agency of kids, what are your thoughts on them wanting to participate in reality shows like that (I remember watching it at 11 and dreaming of participating bc it seemed so fun and chic), especially when these shows can be quite exploitative or take place in an exploitative industry like this one?
Sorry if this is a silly topic to ask about 😭
i think it's a really natural thing for kids to see that stuff and want to participate in it. like it's one of the very few options presented to kids to feel Seen and Powerful, you know? and there isn't exactly concurrent discussion about how unbelievably exploitative the industry is, how it regularly drives kids (and adults) to despair. because that would ruin the entertainment value.
and even when adults are telling kids like Hey it's not a great idea to abandon your education to pursue this, we tend to be really dismissive about things like:
the exploitation they already face constantly
the amount of critical thought they already put into their decision to participate
how they feel about the opportunity cost of this decision
their lack of other options to access that kind of financial/social/creative independence
and so on and so forth.
it reminds me of jenny humphrey's arc on gossip girl where she dropped out of school and ran away from home to focus on fashion design. and then facing issues around creative control, labor exploitation (at eleanor waldorf's atelier too, like her classmate's mom seriously what the fuck). and the whole time i feel like jenny was just treated as annoying and entitled by the narrative and the audience??? when like every adult around her was failing her so deeply and she just wanted control over something. UGH it pissed me off.
this wasn't a silly topic at all! it's unique and evocative of so many of the things i talk about on this blog anyway. it's one of those things where as a culture we hold it up to be like "see? teens aren't good decision-makers, they can't think long-term" while ignoring literally all of the cultural and economic factors & the fundamental desire for autonomy that drive the decision. it's such a recursive worldview and it's very interesting to me to interrogate it more.
Hello, I appreciate your posts and they really help me try to do better. Despite having views that align with yours and keeping in mind the perspective of children I still really struggle with helping and spending time with most very young kids.
Sorry if this ask is out of place, I didn't know where else to get a good opinion :')
My young cousin is very loud and stubborn, she parents are doing their best but they're often busy. Personally I'm not able to be as patient and understanding as I should be because I can't stand the screaming at all, also the way she pushes and hits and how she yells and calls people evil anytime they don't do whatever she asks them (like letting her eat 2 ice creams in a row). Or even the more innocent things like getting all in my face or touching me when playing. Asking her to stop or why some things can't be done just makes her worse.
I don't know how parents do it, I find myself not wanting to be around kids like this or losing my patience, which means I end up refusing to do most thing the kid asks of me or I get pissed at everyone else around me.
I don't like not being able to be with them reasonably and would like to know if there's anything to do about this, maybe there's something wrong with the way I'm seeing things.
Anyway, I wish you a great day ♡
as a neurodivergent caregiver i understand this really, really deeply. for any kind of stimulation (such as pain or loud noises) i tend to have a threshold for it where it hardly bothers me at all, but then a switch flips, and suddenly it's WAY too much to handle and i get irritable or angry.
the most helpful approach to this i've found is just. accepting that this is a limitation i have as a caregiver. i'm only going to be able to handle so much stimulation. that's not the kid's fault, and it is important for kids to be able to be loud sometimes. it's also not a personal failing of mine, just something i have to work around.
so i try to plan ahead. i have silicone earplugs and noise cancelling headphones that i use a lot (honestly just having them with me is calming). i know that if i'm on my phone around the kids, i tend to get more snappish, so i try to put it up when possible. i find activities to do with them that hold their attention - they don't have to be super structured, but the completely unstructured time can be more overwhelming for me because i don't know what to expect.
i try to regularly check in w my body and see how much tension/overwhelm i'm feeling and whether anything needs to adjust. of course this is hardest to do when you're already overwhelmed but with practice it gets a bit easier. the point is to try to identify overstimulation before it gets to the point of shutting down or losing it.
i also don't hesitate to have straightforward conversations with my kids about this. like "hey, i'm sorry i've been irritable, you don't deserve to be treated like that. at the same time, it's hard for me to stay calm if you're hitting me/pulling my hair/etc. next time, if you need something from me, can you try to keep your hands to yourself and ask at a 5 volume instead of a 10 volume? this is what a 5 volume sounds like." or "hi, i understand that you're asking me for something right now. can you look at my hands and see that i'm already in the middle of a task? that means i can't do your thing right this minute, but i'll do it after i'm done with this one." OR "okay, i've done x and y and z for you in the last 30 minutes, now i'm taking a break. if that bothers you, i can go take my break in my room instead of in the living room."
expect that these changes will take time & lots of practice to implement before they feel easier. it'll never be 100% perfect and that's okay. it's still worth trying again and again. with my kids i have a lot of "whoa! can you try that again a little more respectfully?" moments. the goal is to get to the point where those check-ins go smoother ("oh yeah, i could try saying that nicer"), not to get to the point where they're not needed at all.
and that goes both ways, too. the other day, A (my 4-year-old) was like, "mama, you seem like you're getting frustrated really fast over and over. do you want to take a nap after you get us breakfast, and see if that helps you regulate better later?" and you know what. i did.
good luck!
people make jokes about how people who weren’t allowed to watch spongebob as a kid are always talking about how they weren’t allowed to watch spongebob but as one of the aforementioned people who wasn’t allowed to watch spongebob my insight on the matter is: you would not BELIEVE the amount of times spongebob comes up in normal adult conversations. i don’t often think about him of my own accord but people reference him and i have to say. what? and they say. it’s from spongebob?? and i say. oh i never watched spongebob. and they say why? and i say. i wasn’t allowed to. and then a few weeks later it happens again
respectfully have u never watched it as an adult either?
respectfully why would i watch a kids show that holds no nostalgia for me as an adult?
My dad (in his 40s at the time) liked it when I was a kid, I'd sometimes catch him watching it without me.
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Would love to hear your opinion on the terms “meltdown” and “tantrum”. Since becoming a parent they have increasingly come across to me as dehumanising, or a reflection on a young person’s lack of autonomy, yet they are used so frequently by parents in my circles.
Thank you
mmm i think you're right. i've felt the same way about the term 'whining' before. young children tend to have big expressions of frustration/anger/etc but 1) a lot of times they are well-founded and 2) they're considered disproportionate only by their caregivers' evaluation.
but at the same time, i don't think that critiquing the terminology people use is a particularly effective way of raising consciousness. [obvious 'don't use slurs' caveat.] so even if it is a caregiver-centric phrasing, i don't think i'd really go around telling people not to use it. idk.
actually no they were kinda right about the post being weird about trans men. it suggests that trans men benefit from the patriarchy (i realise the mouse bit is a joke but they’re using it as a metaphor).
I mean if they are perceived as men than in some ways they would? i'm a cis woman so I don't usually engage in these discussions but I did go to many different schools and have been friends with trans students so seen the ways trans men vs trans women are treated by peers. I am not saying trans men have no problems at all, but we do live in a patriarchal society and femininity is devalued. my younger brother is gay and that alone was enough for most of his friends to alienate him once he came out
harry dubois would end death note in one episode. he'd be unkillable bc he has no fucking idea what his name is and then he'd go drink driving and accidentally run light over and the killings would mysteriously stop
Harry: Kim, what's following that kid?
Kim: ...
Harry: What?
Kim: What are you talking about?
Inland Empire [80%]
Looks like you're the only one who can see it.
Harry: The... bone monster?
Kim: The bone monster.
Harry: Yes. The bone monster.
THE BONE MONSTER - As you approach it grins, watching you watching it.
THE BONE MONSTER'S KID - "Good morning officers."
YOU - Continue looking at the bone monster.
THE BONE MONSTER - It tilts its head to the side quizzically at you.
YOU - Tilt your head in response.
THE BONE MONSTER - It begins leering over you, grinning even harder.
THE BONE MONSTER'S KID - The kid turns towards you.
PERCEPTION [LEGENDARY: SUCCESS] - For a moment he looked at the bone monster, and then to you.
THE BONE MONSTER'S KID - "Is there a problem, officers?"
KIM - "You will have to forgive my partner, he has quite an active imagination."
THE BONE MONSTER - "You hear that? I'm just a part of your imagination."
INLAND EMPIRE - I don't think he's a part of your imagination.
This man... He can see Ryuk? But how? The only explanation is that he touched my Death Note, but I've had it with me all day! Did he sneak into my room last night while I was asleep? But, all my security measures were intact... And he seems confused, is he putting on an act? Let me see if I can...
"Pardon me officer, I don't think I caught your name?"
"Uh, well that's the thing, I, uh, don't actually remember it at the moment."
Damn him! He knows I need a name to kill, and now he's taunting me! He can see Ryuk, too, so one wrong move could end me! I might have to make the eye deal at this point...
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LOGIC [Medium, failure]: This bone monster is obviously Kira. You are fucked.
Try to make Kim see the bone monster. [Suggestion, Legendary]
Attempt to arrest the bone monster.
Put yourself between the bone monster and Light.
Ask Light for some money.
Try to play it off as a joke and leave quickly. [Composure, Formidable]
> Attempt to arrest the bone monster
PERCEPTION [EASY: FAILURE] - You can't tell what gender it is.
YOU - "Excuse me, sir-- or, uh, madam?-- Bone... person..."
THE BONE MONSTER - It laughs, a deep, gutteral sound, like air escaping from the lungs of a corpse. As its jaw moves, you can see rows upon rows of sharp teeth inside its gaping maw.
COMPOSURE [CHALLENGING: SUCCESS] - You stand your ground and manage not to freak out.
YOU - "I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to come down to the police station. You... uh, match the description of a suspect... I think."
THE BONE MONSTER - It lets out a loud, phlegmatic belly laugh. "What are you going to do, arrest me?"
AUTHORITY - Damn right you are. Cuff him.
YOU - "Yes, as a matter of fact, I will. You are under arrest on suspicion of being Kira. Put your hands forward, wrists together."
KIM - "How exactly are you going to handcuff a hallucination, Detective?"
THE BONE MONSTER - It laughs again, like this is the funniest thing in the world, before obediently sticking out its arms.
THE BONE MONSTER'S KID - His eyes go wide and his face goes pale as you place the cuffs on the monster's wrists, before his gaze darts to Kim.
KIM - He is staring at the cuffs. He looks bewildered. "Are those handcuffs... floating?"
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Shit! Ryuk, why did you have to comply?! Is this a game to you? No matter... They still don't realize that I'm Kira, not Ryuk. All I have to do is stay calm and act surprised. I'm sure Ryuk can just escape later, once he gets bored. And this other cop obviously can't see him, so it seems it's only the first one who has touched a Death Note... I just need to make it seem that he's the only one who can see Shinigami. Then I'll seem innocent, and he'll be the suspicious one!
"How did you do that? Is it some kind of magic trick?"
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SHIVERS [Heroic, Success]: As intimidating as it looks, the bone monster isn't the real threat.
Deduce who the real Kira is [Logic, Godly]
Ask Light what he knows about the bone monster.
Tell Kim I-told-you-so.
Convince Light you are a sorcerer [Drama, Impossible]
Ask Light if he has any cigarettes.
I don't know shit about Harry's universe but I wanna see where this is gonna go. I vote cigarettes next.
Someone wrote a fic where he hit light with his car. It is a brilliant piece of coding and fiction.
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I'd HIGHLY reccomend it- there's only one chapter, really (the second one exists purely as a workaround to make something that would otherwise be a popup into a link because its way too long to be a popup) and its 32,000ish words.
Its fun you should check it out
why do so many freaks go right to “there should be exams or tests before you have kids” when the real solution is better social services, robust infant and child development education that is accessible both financially and schedule/distance accommodating, and resources throughout any stage of a child’s life. genuine question like did you think about any social development before going straight to eugenics
Look i am not even a proponent of parental testing measures. However. having *entire classes* on parenting, and "robust social services" (notoriously misused to steal kids) is much more eugenics-minded than having a simple 10 question test to assess that potential parents know that they should (1) feed shelter and clothe their children and (2) refrain from bullying or physically harming them.
I'm going to copy the answer i gave to your anon here so that everyone can be a little more educated about eugencists and the sort of propaganda they might put on tumblr!
do you know why eugencists believe they have a right to decide who can and cannot become parents? It is because they falsely believe that they can create an "improved" or "perfect" version of humanity, both biologically and culturally. You seem to know of one method they use (social control of reproduction), and it is important that you know they use many others! In particular, they seek to control social norms, and often believe there is 1 correct way to behave in any scenario. They are incredibly focused on maintaining their cultural traditions, and believe they have a moral obligation to destroy other people's cultural traditions. Eugenicists use "education" as cultural indoctrination and a tool of destruction of human cultural diversity. How does this relate to parenting?
Child-rearing, and therefore parenting, is a form of cultural tradition. Whether parents even raise their children themselves in a nuclear family model is culturally situated… some cultures use communal child rearing, some rely on extended family kinship ties, some cultures have designated caretakers who may be seen more as family or more as servant or more as employee. It just depends. So yes, parenting classes are just as eugenics-minded as having an exam, because they would have the effect of prioritizing and standardizing a culturally-dominant form of childrearing over others.
Also, I must point out that in our culture, whether or not you pass a class is usually determined by an exam… so
@uptownthots
Your tags are SOOO telling. So you actually are just a eugencist trying to covertly spread propaganda online. No, child sexual abuse and child physical abuse are not part of anyone's culture, and they don't magically become ok if someone claims that. But the fact is that you went on the internet and with seemingly zero prompting decided to start pushing nazi talking points, and now you're using one of the most basic rehashed nazi talking point in favor of eugenics (" in those backwards other cultures they think child abuse and molestation are ok! That's why we have to teach them better!" ) tells me all I need to know. If you aren't aware you are a white supremacist this is your wake up call that you seem to believe what they believe. And you aren't helping children.
i'm sorry OP isn't engaging with your points intellectually honestly but you're literally right, at least in your initial critique. social services are very often used to impose dominant cultural norms on marginalized people. these services - how they exist in the world right now, and given their fraught historical relationship with racism/imperialism/classism/ableism/etc. - are not enough to counter child abuse, even if they're well-funded. i don't agree with the "nazi talking point" thing at the end because this eugenicist approach thrives in liberal democracies as well. it's not by any means limited to fascism.
you're pushing for a more radical perspective on the family vs. the state than OP was initially, something that aligns more with family abolition and youth liberation than liberal reform measures. it is really, really hard to talk about these things sensitively in a way that people won't outright reject your idea.
you're not wrong. but if you want people to agree with you, you have to tailor your approach a little more, instead of calling them a closeted white supremacist when they don't instantly get what you mean. i do a lot of writing & discussion around this in person & online and like. 80% of the work is just figuring out how to communicate the ideas with people effectively, not learning/developing the ideas themselves.
here are some books i think you might like. they align with the critique you've made in this post and extend it far beyond what you've covered here. there's a lot of terminology here that i think you might find useful when you try to talk about this in the future.
Torn Apart: How the Child Welfare System Destroys Black Families--and How Abolition Can Build a Safer World by Dorothy Roberts
Family Abolition: Capitalism and the Communizing of Care by M. E. O'Brien

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why do so many freaks go right to “there should be exams or tests before you have kids” when the real solution is better social services, robust infant and child development education that is accessible both financially and schedule/distance accommodating, and resources throughout any stage of a child’s life. genuine question like did you think about any social development before going straight to eugenics
Look i am not even a proponent of parental testing measures. However. having *entire classes* on parenting, and "robust social services" (notoriously misused to steal kids) is much more eugenics-minded than having a simple 10 question test to assess that potential parents know that they should (1) feed shelter and clothe their children and (2) refrain from bullying or physically harming them.
How To Stop Abuse:
“Do you think abuse is bad, yes or no?”
dang, you're right. It's almost as if child abuse is caused by the systemic power adults leverage over children, which wouldn't be fixed by parenting classes or having more social workers either. Wow, you are so literate!
We need family abolition, protected children's rights, AND greater support structures for families. There is no one solution that will "fix" child abuse, but I'm sure a lot of people would greatly value "resources throughout any stage of [their] child’s life", as the op put it. Optional parenting classes or services for the public provided by the government, (what social services are, not just CPS--which for the record, I don't like either), would only help children and parents lead better lives. These things aren't inherently destructive to other's cultures.
why do so many freaks go right to “there should be exams or tests before you have kids” when the real solution is better social services, robust infant and child development education that is accessible both financially and schedule/distance accommodating, and resources throughout any stage of a child’s life. genuine question like did you think about any social development before going straight to eugenics
Look i am not even a proponent of parental testing measures. However. having *entire classes* on parenting, and "robust social services" (notoriously misused to steal kids) is much more eugenics-minded than having a simple 10 question test to assess that potential parents know that they should (1) feed shelter and clothe their children and (2) refrain from bullying or physically harming them.
I'm going to copy the answer i gave to your anon here so that everyone can be a little more educated about eugencists and the sort of propaganda they might put on tumblr!
do you know why eugencists believe they have a right to decide who can and cannot become parents? It is because they falsely believe that they can create an "improved" or "perfect" version of humanity, both biologically and culturally. You seem to know of one method they use (social control of reproduction), and it is important that you know they use many others! In particular, they seek to control social norms, and often believe there is 1 correct way to behave in any scenario. They are incredibly focused on maintaining their cultural traditions, and believe they have a moral obligation to destroy other people's cultural traditions. Eugenicists use "education" as cultural indoctrination and a tool of destruction of human cultural diversity. How does this relate to parenting?
Child-rearing, and therefore parenting, is a form of cultural tradition. Whether parents even raise their children themselves in a nuclear family model is culturally situated… some cultures use communal child rearing, some rely on extended family kinship ties, some cultures have designated caretakers who may be seen more as family or more as servant or more as employee. It just depends. So yes, parenting classes are just as eugenics-minded as having an exam, because they would have the effect of prioritizing and standardizing a culturally-dominant form of childrearing over others.
Also, I must point out that in our culture, whether or not you pass a class is usually determined by an exam… so
@uptownthots
Your tags are SOOO telling. So you actually are just a eugencist trying to covertly spread propaganda online. No, child sexual abuse and child physical abuse are not part of anyone's culture, and they don't magically become ok if someone claims that. But the fact is that you went on the internet and with seemingly zero prompting decided to start pushing nazi talking points, and now you're using one of the most basic rehashed nazi talking point in favor of eugenics (" in those backwards other cultures they think child abuse and molestation are ok! That's why we have to teach them better!" ) tells me all I need to know. If you aren't aware you are a white supremacist this is your wake up call that you seem to believe what they believe. And you aren't helping children.
I think OP meant that parenting classes would be optional and never implied that failing a parenting class would result in a family's child being taken away from them. Also, social services don't exclusively refer to CPS--aren't health screenings or food and drug laws social services, for example? Having the option to use more widely available and less expensive daycare would help parents raise their children better, because it's always better to have the option for more help.
Also, there are some cultures where sexually or physically abusing children is considered normal and necessary by EVERYONE involved, oftentimes even the people being hurt--that doesn't mean we have to respect that aspect of their culture lest we be white supremacists, or ignore it entirely and claim it doesn't exist! An extreme example is the cultural tradition of preforming FGM (female genital mutilation) surgery on girls in some villages and communities in East Africa. Here's an excerpt about this practice and how it comes to be understood as necessary and normal from the anthropology textbook Cultural Anthropology: A Perspective on the Human Condition: "Boddy [anthropologist] discovered that the purity, cleanliness, and smoothness associated with the infibulated female body is also associated with other activities, concepts, and objects in everyday village customs...'the shape of an ostrich egg, with its tiny orifice, corresponds to the idealized shape of the circumcised woman's womb'...Boddy's relativistic account demonstrates how the meanings associated with female infibulation are reinforced by so many different aspects of everyday life that girls who grow up, marry, and bear children in Hofriyat [village] come to consider the operation a dangerous but profoundly necessary and justifiable procedure that enables them to help sustain all that is most valued in their own world." pg 31. These people aren't less intelligent than you or me, and they certainly shouldn't have to pass a test in order to have children. But a decent amount of people there, (notably not all! Some don't agree with these surgeries despite their dominant culture), believe in these practices because of where and how they grew up.
I know this wasn't your intention but denying that culture can be sexually or physically abusive is, um...an unproductive opinion to have. As Boddy continued, "Those who work to eradicate [FGM] must, I assert, cultivate an awareness of the custom's local significances and of how much they are asking people to relinquish as well as gain." pg 34.
I could keep talking about this but randomly bringing up such a sensitive subject might be overwhelming, so I'll stop here.