love is a dagger

THUNDERBOLTS* (2025) dir. Jake Schreier

bonus:

Yes, it was 100% morally wrong for Tony to try to murder Bucky (and possibly Steve), but many of the Avengers have done morally reprehensible things. The difference is that they came to regret it and took steps to make amends. T'Challa, for example, also tried to kill Bucky, and he did it based on faulty information and an overwhelming rage and grief that clouded his judgement. But he overcame it. He realized that he was wrong, even decided to spare his father's actual killer, and took steps to make up for what he put Bucky through by helping him in Wakanda.

Tony, by contrast, never showed that he regretted trying to kill Bucky. He even knew from the start (unlike T'Challa) that Bucky ultimately wasn't responsible but he tried to kill him anyway. And then he spent the next two years being angry at Steve about the whole thing, refused to call him even when the world was at risk, and then threw a whole tantrum about how mean Steve was to him. He never acknowledged that what he did was wrong.

MCU really screwed Tony. In the comics, Howard wasn't killed by the Winter Soldier. Hydra had nothing to do with it.

Screw MCU for sullying Tony's persona in a way that probably can't be mended.

There is a rumour that the whole storyline about Bucky killing the Starks in CW was created because Bucky was getting "too popular" with fans after Winter Soldier.

Some showrunners were worred, and so they needed Bucky do something which would turn fans against him and make them hate him.

Sadly, it worked a little too well. Also sadly, they did not consider the long -term implications of this plot point and seem to have forgotten about it afterwards.

Some showrunners were worred, and so they needed Bucky do something which would turn fans against him and make them hate him.

Well, if it's a rumor than it's probably not true.

these people are Hollywood screenwriters, not machiavellian masterminds.

You don't have to have a high IQ to understand fandom and how fickle it is. If you want to turn fans off a character all you have to do is make them hurt *the favorite*.

Him looking out for younger teens is so fucking punk of him. He lets Gwen stay with him because she's vulnerable and struggling, he makes her a watch, he lets her keep his shoes, etc. and it's not out of romance, it's because she's family. Same with Miles; he knows Miles is naive and wants to help him, because he's been in the spider society longer and he knows what's really going on. He sees the adults, who are supposed to mentor them, targeting Miles and he just knows it's flat-out wrong and that he wants no part of it.

tony:

— lost literally NO ONE in the snap

— NO ONE

— literally made an entire family and new happy life for himself during the five years everyone was gone

— was not planning to rescue peter for a good portion of the film bc he didn’t want to risk ruining his HAPPY LIFE at the moment

— peter isn’t HIS kid

Steve, who has lost his entire world, all his friends, all his family, all his support from the 1940s, and now lost all his best friends again: “I’m sorry for your loss :(”

‘Sweet cheeks?’ She had cherubic cheeks. It’s a compliment. ‘Sweet cheeks’ is your butt. No, it’s not. It is. It’s like calling somebody, I don’t know, ‘sugar tits.’ That’s totally inappropriate!