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I often think about that post that was a fake dating profile for a cat that was all about chickens, like wanting someone with posable thumbs for opening chickens.
This is one my favourite things the internet has ever made.

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extra crazy to see people swinging so hard for big corporate copyright lawsuits on tumblr dot com tbh. alright girl whateverrrrr, I hope the lawyers come for your favorite fan artist next if you're so in favor of it ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
you're all frothing at the mouth for a queer climate activist getting sued now but oooh just wait until you can't order astarion keychains and baby yoda plushies and whatever the fuck else off etsy anymore
I guess in light of all the feedback I've been receiving tonight I'm going to turn over a new leaf and become a good citizen who defends copyright law. first up is snitching out the nice lady at the local farmers market who sells crochet pokemon plushies, I want to see nintendo sue that cunt into the ground
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Iâm curious about more TTRPGs like Blades in the Dark. I love how fleshed out the world is, and even more the amount of board game-y mechanics it has. I know a lot of TTRPGs claim to be low prep, but BitD has been one of the few where Iâve actually felt that thanks to its detailed setting, locations, NPCs, etc. And I think the board game-y mechanics offer so much play structure and immediate goals that can encourage emergent narratives.
THEME: Board-Game-y Games!
Hello there! I've strayed quite a bit from Blades, but I tried to keep a focus on board-gamey mechanics because I don't think I've really had a chance to do that kind of recommendation before. If you want more Blades-like recommendations, I definitely recommend you check out my System Overview of Forged in the Dark.
Affordance, by contakaidigon.
AFFORDANCE is a tabletop role-playing game where players use cards to affect their characterâs actions, each other, and the mechanics of the scene itself. It is a narrative-focused game that encourages player agency and collaboration, and facilitates co-operative storytelling.
Players create their character by choosing a one of 15 Masks, arranging their skills, writing Tethers, and picking out their Traits and Moves. Play is framed around Scenes, which describe the type of action happening in the fiction, and which players can interact with in order to tweak their odds.
Affordance uses cards as its randomization and play interface, which does a lot to make any game feel somewhat like a board game. When you create a character, you choose a Mask that gives them thematic strengths and weaknesses, but you also customize them with traits, which give you mechanical advantages in certain situations - much like choosing a faction in certain kinds of board-games. There seems to also be some level of negotiation involved in the scenes that you play, similar to the conversation that happens in Blades when a player is getting read to make an action roll. In both cases, you're acting kind of like a writers' room, talking about what might be encouraged, discouraged, easier, or more difficult to achieve.
Little Wolves, by Dinoberry Press.
The story of Little Wolves is focused on The Enchanted Forest and the folk-lings that live within. It is a vast world filled to the brim with all manner of fae-born creatures and folktales come to life, even some you may have heard of.
As you explore this dense forest you'll meet the powerful and mysterious Queens and aid them, and their courts, through all manner of quests and favors. As a werewolf, you're uniquely gifted in traversing the forest, capable of making it to every edge of the woods, meaning that only you can learn its deepest secrets.
Little Wolves adds an extra dimension to dice rolls by assigning Elements to different sides of 6-sided dice, so that when you attempt to do something in the game, you need to roll a dice pool with the hopes of getting a result that matches your desired element. Similar to games such as Blades or the PbtA family, there are staggered successes with interesting events happening even on failures, but a twist to this game is the difficulty ladder. You need more than one success to succeed at certain rolls, which feels a little more reminiscent of games like World of Darkness or Scion 2e.
What is truly unique to Little Wolves is the crafting component; throughout the course of the game you will create and decorate paper masks that represent your wolf form - a fantastic hands-on addition that leaves you with a memento after play.
Dead Heat Heartbeat, by Jackrabbit Collective.
The Trumpet sounds and the world falls away. There remains only the track, the flags, and enough room for a champion at the very end. This is all that should matter as mares muscle for rank, but the hearts that ever faster beat do not stop yearning. Bonds both slight and sweet are forged and forgotten in those precious moments of the race. A sidelong glance can speak of the fiercest rivalries and the most longing of unrequited loves. More than speed or strength: heart decides the victor of these harrowed horses. Will their hearts beat to the gallop of victory, in time with another, or halt altogether?
What better game to feel particularly gamey than a competition? Dead Heat Heartbeat comes with a map of the race-track to help you keep an eye on how well your horse is doing; each section of the track is attached to a different-sized die, which you roll in order to propel your horse closer to the finish line. To further the story, horses that roll the same number at the same time navigate a narrative beat of some kind - a moment of mutual intensity, or perhaps a shared memory that tells us something about your relationship.
When you advance to new parts of the track, your horses gain Heat Tokens, which can be used to alter a single future roll. Any information about your horse is also determined through play, rather than decided ahead of time - even their name, which is only decided upon when your horse is the first of the pack to hit the new stage of the race!
TÄáč ka's Noodle Co., by Cai Kagawa.
Welcome to TÄáč kaâs Noodle Co. where our friendly staff of bears make the most delicious noodles in Kumatochi, the land of bears! Unfortunately, TÄáč kaâs has fallen on hard times and we need everyone to band together to save our family restaurant! Letâs get cooking!
Inspired by close families, delicious food, and (of course) bears, TÄáč kaâs Noodle Co. is a cooperative gave for 2-6 players where you play a family of bears trying to save their noodle business. The game utilizes mostly just a deck of cards to play and the playbooks which are provided.
Restaurant games seem to translate really well to board-gamey-like games, what with the processes built into food preparation. The physical components of TÄáč kaâs Noodle Co. are tokens and playing cards, easy enough to find around the house. The conceit of the game is that you're bears making noodles, and to do so, you must collect three cards of the same suit. The more noodle dishes you make, the better your chances of staying in business.
There's more than just collecting cards in this game, however: you'll also play through phases in which your bears pass on rumours, help each-other out, or ignore their family members in the purpose of getting a job done. Your relationships to each-other are important in this game; you likely won't succeed without good communication.
Jiangshi: Blood in the Banquet Hall, by Wet Ink Games.
This is a collaborative, storytelling RPG about a Chinese family making their living by running a restaurant in one of Americaâs Chinatowns, circa 1920. Despite societal backlash and anti-Chinese laws, they have turned a profit and their quality of life has recently improved.
Night, however, brings a new terror.
Players take on the roles of members of the Chinese family (mostly from Guangdong province), spanning three generations, who face threats of jiangshi (hopping vampires) at night and racism by day. It has players balancing the responsibility of maintaining their family business with protecting themselves and their community from the dreaded Jiangshi. This is primarily a game about storytelling. Combat is limited, but horror, drama and sometimes comedy are the primary vehicles for driving the game forward.
The physical version of Jiangshi: Blood in the Banquet Hall is designed to feel somewhat like a board game: it's a box set with custom dice, three decks of cards, erase-able character sheets, and a restaurant board. It's absolutely gorgeous, and the plethora of tactile game pieces are sure to give you a satisfying play experience.
The Iron Murk, by tremor.pings.
Once the ultimate instrument of war, now an outcast and prey. You are a human, imprisoned in a symbiosis with a walking war machine. You are hunted by those who you served and protected before.
But you, compelled to a rusty cage, refuse to die.
The Iron Murk is a fast-paced, tactical game where players must weigh power against survival. The players' goal is to collect Plot points which give them a chance to overcome the raiding ARC units. It's a rules-light narrative game, built on the core mechanics of Cthulhu Dark, focusing on the action and interaction with limited systematic play.
I haven't read many Trophy games, so I wonder if many of them hav similar pieces to Blades in the way The Iron Murk does. Both games give you dice from various stats, and both look to the highest result from a dice pool to determine the outcome of a roll. Both games also have a mechancic that represents delayed repercussions that arise out of the continual use of a resource - in Blades it's called Stress, but in this game, it's called Surge.
There's some key differences however; in The Iron Murk your characters take consequences on a low roll, but don't automatically fail, not unless the GM or the player decides it's fitting. The endgame is also much more clearly defined; when you as a group gain enough plot points, you can decide on how to defeat your big adversary. However you slice it, there's plenty of different fiddly bits in this game to have a hoot with.
Dusk City Outlaws, by Scratchpad Publishing.
Dusk City Outlaws is a tabletop roleplaying game for 3-6 players, set in the sprawling city of New Dunhaven. In this game, the players take on the roles of criminals on the wrong side of the law, collectively known as the Right Kind of People to those who run in outlaw circles. These criminals come together to form a crew, and take on a Job, a criminal enterprise brokered to them by a third party.
Each member of the crew is a member of one of the eight cartels that rule over the cityâs criminal underworld. These cartels each have their own turf, their own specialties, their own motives, and their own methods, but they are all bound together by the Arrangement, an agreement that the cartels entered into to preserve themselves against too much infighting. In short, the cartels agree that they have enough enemies without warring with one another, and that they all want the same thing: to get rich. The cartels agree to respect each others' turf, and while some bickering and fighting is allowed, large-scale conflict is forbidden, and revenge is frowned upon.
Another fantastically tactile game, Dusk City Outlaws mixes faction politics with dramatic and high-action scenes, also inside a box set that gives you plenty of tokens and sheets for easy set-up and satisfying play. While the original version of this game has been out for a while, Scratchpad Publishing is also currently working on a cyberpunk version, called Neon City Outlaws.
Pentagon Pizza Party, by LynxCat.
You own a small pizza shop near the Pentagon. You also moonlight as an international spy - a double agent, working both for the allies and for the opposition. So, when things are going slow, you decide to provoke an international incident to drum up more business⊠But beware - when DEFCON starts dropping down, things can quickly take a turn for the worse!
Pentagon Pizza Party is a darkly satirical take on profit in times of crisis and fear, and also a solo pen-and-paper game that is quick and easy to learn, requires no preparation, and allows for quick play sessions. It is somewhat inspired by Lasers & Feelings, in that it has a d6, both roll-under and roll-over mechanic, and has elements of worker placement and incremental games.
This rec is for the solo gamer, as well as for lovers of dark humor. Your spy has plenty of things to balance as they attempt to keep themself undercover; supplies, the risk of the working environment, and the money you make from operating your pizza business. Part of the game feels like a worker-placement, as you'll have crew members that you can assign to pizza tasks and spy tasks, and the game also culminates in a definitive end-state: when you hit DEFCON 1, and must prepare for imminent nuclear war. Will you die as the result of getting to involved, or will you make it out alive? Will you go bankrupt in the process?
Games I've Recommended In The Past...
Slugblaster, by Wilkie's Candy Lab.
Rig Rats, by kyusenbo.
Space Gerbils, by Penguin King Games.
Spectaculars by Scratchpad Publishing.
Sockgoblins, by poorstudents.
Under the Autumn Strangely, by Graham Gentz.
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Before the TMA/TME dichotomy was put in those terms, people found issue with the fact that in order to discuss transmisogyny without talking over transfems they had to reveal some combination of their ASAB, gender or trans status in some way. TMA/TME is a gesture at a solution that allows people to locate themselves in relation to structural transmisogyny while revealing only the absolute minimum information required to do so. It is also a terminology that allows for discussing transmisogyny without making any extraneous assertions or assumptions pertaining to the subjects of discussion.
The fact that this is the most minimal possible terminology for discussing transmisogyny in terms of group relationships makes it seem like our last line of defense against saying "it's not a problem to speak over transfems" and that seems to be precisely what some people are aiming for: The accusation that we just want to dismiss the views of everyone who isn't transfem is made openly with the implication being that wanting to prioritize the perspectives of transfems in discussions about the oppression of transfems is indicative of something akin to transfem-supremacy.
I don't see what we can take away or add or change to address the criticisms made of TMA/TME to the satisfaction of the critics. Informally we could just say transfem and non-transfem but by doing that we have to include all TMA people under the label "transfem". We are already constantly forced to do this for the sake of communication, but it is flattening the possibility space allotted to our identities considerably and it is misleading.
Would any of the criticisms actually be assuaged by us changing the terms to more closely reflect the literal meaning we intend? If we chose terms that precisely conveyed a meaning like "primary target of structural transmisogyny" and "not a primary target of structural transmisogyny" would anyone at all actually be satisfied? Or would the goalposts be moved once again?
I see questions like "Should we perhaps make a binary like this for other forms of oppression too? Should we say ableism-affected and ableism-exempt?" put forward as an argument against these terms and I just don't think this would be a big deal. The reason we don't usually need to do that is that it's generally understood how purposefully obfuscating your your own relationship to a form of oppression in controversial discussions of it is suspect. Have we abandoned standpoint epistemology altogether at this point, or is ours a special case?
We are told that we are creating a new binary by using TMA/TME terminology but that is presupposing that that this binary didn't already exist before we put it into language. The criticism simply assumes its desired conclusion. It makes the brute assertion that TMA people aren't affected by transmisogyny qualitatively differently from TME people to begin with (and we're not allowed to litigate this assertion). It denies outright that transmisogyny is what we mean by it and tells us that we shouldn't mean by transmisogyny what we do mean by it. We are told that we are reinforcing or even creating the arbitrary, inconsistent, socially constructed systems on the basis of which we are oppressed by acknowledging the arbitrary, inconsistent, socially constructed systems on the basis of which we are oppressed in our analysis.
"You just want to know what's in people's pants" I do not, and you know it. "You just want to know people's ASAB" I do not, and you know it. Keep your words out of my mouth. What I want is for people to not try to pull the wool over our eyes and stealthily define transmisogyny out of existence by, without acknowledging it, introducing the non-existence of transmisogyny as a settled matter in the premises on the basis of which they criticize our terminology.
If transfems attempting to insist on their ability to not be talked over about their own oppression seems to you like they are engaging in the epistemic marginalization of everyone else then you are a transmiosgynist and deserve to be identified as such. It is because of our epistemic marginalization even in LGBT and trans spaces that we need terms like these. Stripping us of the tools to even attempt to counterbalance our epistemic marginalization by acknowledging it will simply allow for our epistemic marginalization to go unacknowledged once again, to let others speak for us and over us, to re-enshrine the absolute moral right to never have to listen to us.
hi, i have a genuine question. in how you define transfem, whats the difference between transfem and tma?
ive been looking into your blog earlier and saw your poll where you and a majority of those who answered defined transfem as
A person who has maleness/non-femaleness legally/institutionally/socially imposed upon them against their will and "transitions/transgresses towards" femaleness/femininity/womanhood. A trans person who is barred from the social location of cis womanhood regardless of their own wishes.
maybe i missed it or you havent done it, but i couldnt find a post of you defining "transmisogyny affected" so im just gonna use the definition other people ive seen on tumblr
đŹ 39  đ 3545  â€ïž 4104 · a common (and exhausting) misconception seems to happen around the word "exempt". let's be clear: transmisogyny isn'
from the post and the replies, its definition of tma is pretty much identical to how you defined transfem.
am i missing something, did i misunderstand anything? /genq
from how i understand it, its pretty much identical so im confused in your third paragraph in this post (the one im reblogging);
I don't see what we can take away or add or change to address the criticisms made of TMA/TME to the satisfaction of the critics. Informally we could just say transfem and non-transfem but by doing that we have to include all TMA people under the label "transfem". We are already constantly forced to do this for the sake of communication, but it is flattening the possibility space allotted to our identities considerably and it is misleading.
so im assuming theres a difference between tma and transfem (or at least based on how you define it). can you explain what it is?
The poll in question.
"TMA" is a category that we use for the purposes of feminist analysis, it should not be understood as anything resembling an identity.
"Transfem" is often understood as an identity category that many people who must correctly be analyzed as "TMA" or "transfeminized" or "transmisogynized" do not identify with (e.g. because they do not understand themselves as "trans").
"Transfem" probably has additional less definite connotations that I did not include in my "definition" because they are not "essential" to its meaning. People do not use natural language words like "transfem" in strict accordance with definitions, definitions are abstractions that attempt to explain how words are used. Their actual usage is what determines their meaning.
What sets different transmisogynized identities apart from each other may be cultural, it may be subcultural, it may be an aesthetic preference, it may be ideological, it may be class, it may be a relationship to colonialism or imperialism or racism etc.
Every transmisogynized person could identify as "transfem" if they wanted to (there are no "additional requirements"), but transmisogynized people should not need to identify as a "transfem" (or allow themselves to be identified as such by others) to have their oppression as primary targets of transmisogyny acknowledged.
Imposing "transfem" as an identity onto people (or entire populations) who may reject it is (at the very least) counterproductive.
It's more or less an extension of this argument from "A Short History of Trans Misogyny" by Jules Gill-Peterson:
While no one but the most delirious imperialist can innocently survey the globe to put a single stamp on trans womanhood or trans femininity, it is possible to narrate the global creation of trans misogyny through colonial and class-based arrangements of sex, gender, and sexuality. Instead of presuming trans femininityâs coherence in advance and then using history to certify it, this book examines where and when trans femininity became a fault line in broader histories, including the repressive practices of colonial government, the regulation of sex work, the policing of urban space, and the line between the formal and informal economy. In this way, the method of this book is deceptively simple: it uses the history of trans misogyny to understand where trans-feminized people were lit up by the clutches of violence and how they responded to its aggressions. In doing so, we learn what makes trans misogyny unique and get a glimpse at how wildly diverse people around the world have come to find themselves implicated in trans femininity and trans womanhood, whether or not they wanted to be. For these reasons, I maintain a difference between trans femininity and trans womanhood or trans women. The first is meant to signal a broad classification by outside observers, including aesthetic criteria and the history of ideas attached to people who have been trans-feminized. Trans womanhood and women, on the other hand, name people who saw themselves as intentionally belonging to a shared categoryâin other words, who tried to live in the world recognized as women, whatever that category meant to them contextually. Everyone in this book may have been trans-feminized, and all may have been brought into the orbit of trans femininity, but only some considered themselves to be trans women in response. These careful, empirical distinctions remind that trans misogyny has had the effect of pulling huge swaths of people into relation with one another, like Black trans women in New York City and kathoeys in Bangkok, who but for the accidents of history may never have seen each other as having anything in common. It does not weaken the category of trans femininity, or the political project of trans feminism, to examine trans women alongside hijras, street queens, transvestites, and Two-Spirit people, even if few to none of the latter would identify as trans women. On the contrary, it reveals just how narrow the Western definition of woman has been, since many groups of people reject it as a colonial limitation, even when it arrives in a trans idiom.
Gill-Peterson, J. (2024). A Short History of Trans Misogyny. Verso Books.
Transphobia is about to be signed into law in the UK. We can fight this.
I am begging the UK trans community and its allies to attend the Mass Lobby at Parliament on June 25th, 11am-4pm, organised by Trans Solidarity Alliance.
Last year we broke the record for an LGBT+ mass lobby of Parliament. Will you help us break it again? Join us on 25th June 2026 to demand be
The new EHRC Code of Practice pushes trans people out of toilets, hospital wards, and community spaces. It normalises gender policing based on appearance and stereotypes. It becomes statutory guidance in the UK by the end of June.
Trans people are now legally their assigned gender at birth and must join gendered spaces accordingly, but if they are perceived as their lived gender, they can also be ejected from those spaces. The guidance says: either break the law, or donât pass too well.
A mass lobby is where you invite your MP to discuss your concerns with you in-person. Ask your MP to:
Demand full parliamentary scrutiny, debate, and use their free vote on the EHRC Code of Practice.
Support any motions rejecting the EHRC guidance. As of June 4th, Labour MP Nadia Whittome has submitted a prayer motion - Early Day Motion 240.
Write to Bridget Phillipson, the Minister for Women and Equalities about our concerns
Your MP does not have to be an ally, they do not have to respond to your email for you to show up and greencard them (details below the cut.) What matters is that as many people as possible show up.
I cannot stress this enough: Showing up in person matters. It is much more effective than petitions, emails, and letters.
It is a horrible, stressful time, and I am so sorry if you're trans and live in the UK. But I was at last year's mass lobby and the line for greencarding alone stretched around the back gates. It was a record breaking mass lobby and made us impossible to ignore. Let's do even better this time. Details under the cut:
i love writing out numbers and then putting them in parentheses like "one (1)" even when i dont need to i think its funny
"I'm still kicking" is such a funny way to say "I'm still alive". Like lol. I'm still thrashing. Flailing. Writhing even. The violence remains.
I am continuously astounded by how much pro-homeschooling rhetoric flies in youth rights circles.
Homeschooling (yes, that includes unschooling) consolidates massive amounts of power into the hands of parents. Homeschooling causes horrific abuse and isolation.
The homeschooling movement is far-right and blatantly pro-abuse. The HSLDA called a man who kept children in cages a âhero.â They has helped to block the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child AND the UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, has backed legislation banning both same-sex marriage and civil unions, and helped kill a bill that would define isolation as abuse, among countless other offenses. Its founder, Michael Farris, wrote in his dramatized narrative of CPS âstealingâ children from their Christian homeschooling parents that hitting children to the point of bruising is not abuse.
Libby Ann has extensively documented HSLDAâs support of abuse, including praising abusers and attempting to block all bills that define abuse more strictly, even if âmore strictlyâ simply expands the definition to include bruises and welts.
You canât be pro-youth and pro-homeschooling.
I grew up in a household that donated to the HSLDA and was homeschooled and all that.
HOMESCHOOLING IS THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO ENABLE CHILD ABUSE.
You know how we on the left are opposed to nuclear families because they are a historical outlier from the larger multigenerational households humans have largely had across history? Because nuclear families isolate kids so that if one or two adults in their life fail them they have no recourse?
Modern homeschooling is that turned up to eleven. It is a life where if your parents are guardians are abusive you literally have no way out. No help. No one to turn to. It is ENTIRELY opposed to childrenâs rights as autonomous individuals.
A lot of very ignorant reblogs going on about âbut disabled kids!â like there arenât numerous cases of homeschooling parents using it as an excuse to neglect and abuse their disabled children, including just not educating them at all. And unlike abuses in school, they tend to go much longer undetected, because no one is checking in on them.
Schools can be regulated to be better to disabled children. Much better solution than funneling disabled children out of the reach of authorities.
I say this as an autistic kid who often had issues at school. The assumption from some here that those of us who are anti-homeschooling arenât considering disabled kids is insulting (on this website?) and dangerously ignorant. Disabled kids are all the more reason to protect kids from the rampant abuse that homeschooling enables, and instead to have them in places where their education is regulated by laws designed to look out for them, they are being educated by trained professionals and more importantly, there are so many more adults keeping an eye out for them if anything bad does happen.
So, on one hand most kids are not homeschooled for disability reasons, but for âmoralâ ones - 75% of parents want to provide âmoral instructionâ, 53% explicitly state itâs religious. Comparatively only 15% of parents cite health special needs (which encompasses any health or developmental condition lasting longer than six months) as a reason for homeschooling. So theyâre creating a straw child with this argument in the majority of cases.
With that being saidâŠ
Disability rights activists fought for decades to be allowed equal rights and access to public schooling and IDEA, which was only passed in 1979, is under threat of repeal by the Trump administration because they believe parents should âhandle kids themselvesâ or better yet just institutionalize them. This combined with threats to Section 504 and other laws which mandate accommodations mark concerted efforts to force disabled children out of public life entirely and is part of the right-wing anti-social safety net agenda homeschoolers push specifically because they actively want parents to have absolute legal and practical authority over their childrenâwhich means, in reality, impunity to abuse.
It is absolutely spitting on the legacy of disabled activists like Judith Heumann, many of whom got their start as young people self-advocating for their own rights to be educated to condone the prioritization of homeschooling.
A bit more info/stats but it is, obviously, related to child abuse of all kinds so cut for that.

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calvin's dad pulling up to the house and seeing the whole driveway covered in a (completed) snowman recreation of the entire terracotta army and he takes a deep breath and greets calvin's mom with "i see calvin remembered his methylphenidate today"
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WHATâS THE DEAL WITH HAGFISH SEX?
(a post I am not putting under a read more so that anyone who reblogs it can have the full text available regardless of what I do to my blog specifically in the future)
TLDR: We donât know. Let me get that out of the way. We very much Do Not Know. I am going to go into detail about a number of studies, the conclusion of which, when taken together, is âwe need to do more studies in a way that may not currently be possible.â
Now come with me on a journey where I say that again but take over 5000 words to do it.
The cold, wet facts: what we can be reasonably sure of about hagfish sex
Hagfish gonads are located in the peritoneal cavity, a space between the membrane that surrounds the internal organs and the membrane that lines the abdominal wall. Pictures of hagfish gonads can be seen in Gorbman 1990, Powell 2004, Martini 2013, Weinrauch 2015, Muramatsu 2024. While it starts as a paired organ, one gonad withers early in development, leaving them with a single functional gonad.
The gonad is very long. In immature hagfish, the whole gonad is undeveloped and undifferentiated â there is gonadal tissue present, but itâs not making any gametes, nor has it developed the structures to do so. At some point in their lives, which is currently assumed based on growth patterns to be several years after hatching, the gonadal tissue begins to develop. For the most part, when the anterior (towards the head) two-thirds of it develop to maturity, the tissue produces eggs. When the posterior (towards the tail) third develops to maturity, the tissue produces sperm. In some individuals, gametogensis occurs outside of these boundaries. This seems to be more common in larger hagfish, and one proposed explanation is that as hagfish age, gametogenic tissue expands past the border of undifferentiated tissue that usually separates the anterior and posterior sections of the gonad in order to increase the quantity of gametes the organism can produce.
In a very small percentage of the population (exact numbers are unknown and almost certainly vary based on subfamily, genus, and species, but in the larger and more recent population surveys of several species in the genus Eptatretus the incidence is estimated at below 1%), the entire gonad develops to maturity, with the anterior two-thirds producing eggs and the posterior third producing sperm simultaneously. Whether these individuals are self-fertile, or fertile at all, is currently unknown. In other individuals, there appears to be no gonadal development even after reaching the sizes that are assumed to indicate sexual maturity â however, itâs unclear how many of these individuals are actually adults who have not and will never sexually differentiate, as opposed to above averagely large juveniles or adult hagfish in a part of their reproductive cycle where their gonads look undeveloped to the naked eye. Some hagfish gonad developmental stages being difficult to distinguish from each other without a microscope is an important fact that will become relevant repeatedly.
People studying hagfish reproduction frequently sort hagfish into different stages based on the size and development of their gonads and gametes. In hagfish that produce eggs, these stages are primarily defined by the size of the eggs, which start small and numerous and then grow and reduce in number until a fully developed clutch of usually around 10-30 eggs is ready to be fertilized and laid. In hagfish that produce sperm, the stages are primarily defined by the size of the testicular follicles.
What exactly hagfish reproduction looks like behaviorally is mostly unknown. We donât know how they fertilize their eggs or where those eggs are laid. Inshore hagfish (E. burgeri) are believed by some to have a synchronous spawning cycle, and the population has been reported to synchronously develop mature gametes and predictably migrate in association with this hypothesized mass spawning â however, the actual spawning has never been directly observed. Mature hagfish just seem to move en masse from the shallows to deeper waters, and when they come back, the females that were formerly full of mature eggs donât have those eggs any more. An additional piece of evidence for the synchronous spawning hypothesis is that the only known protocol for collecting hagfish eggs for laboratory use, described by Ota K.G., Kuraku S., & Kuratani S. (2007), involves collecting mature wild E. burgeri at a specific time in the year and leaving them alone in tanks to do their unknown thing until eggs appear. The predictable, cyclical nature of their reproductive cycles allows evolutionary developmental biologists and other scientists to obtain hagfish embryos for study even without the knowledge of how those embryos come to be. In all the other species of hagfish I was able to find detailed reproductive data on, hagfish in most if not all stages of gonadal development were present in nearly every collection, which suggests that they are not synchronous spawners.
Hagfish are mostly deep water animals that live on and near the sea floor. They do not have complex eyes, but they do have eye patches that are sensitive to light. That means that they are affected by a major problem with studying life in the deep sea. Even when humans can get past the challenges of reaching the hagfish in their environment, in person or with machines, if we expose them to light so we can observe them we invariably alter their behavior. A sudden big light somewhere thatâs too deep underwater for sunlight to penetrate is, understandably, alarming and disorienting for the animals that live there. We are very dissimilar organisms, and it makes collecting information about living hagfish difficult.
The studies: The sequence of claims that did or did not make it to the public and institutional consciousness about hagfish sex
Weâll start with a population survey of Pacific hagfish (E. stoutii) published in 1990 by Aubrey Gorbman, whose work is still cited on several government-run fishery websites and in multiple papers and books on hagfish. Gorbman assessed 100 individual Pacific hagfish and concluded that prior assertions that hagfish display protandry (all individuals differentiate as male first and then become female later in life) was based on misdiagnosis of developing ova as testicular follicles. He claimed instead that hagfish display protogyny and every juvenile will begin to develop ovarian tissue in the anterior section of the gonad when approaching sexual maturity. In some hagfish, ovarian tissue development proceeds through all of the identified stages, resulting in a sexually mature hagfish who produces eggs. In other hagfish, ovarian tissue development reverses and the posterior portion of the gonad develops into testes while the partially-developed ovarian tissue in the anterior of the gonad degrades, resulting in a sexually mature hagfish who produces sperm (but might still contain identifiable ovarian tissue in an early developmental or degenerating state, and permanently retains the âvascular and connective tissue frameworkâ (317) used to support development of the anterior section of the gonad in that juvenile stage). And in a small portion of the population, the entire gonad develops into a reproductive organ that simultaneously produced ova and sperm. He based the claim of juvenile protogyny on the observation that all hagfish in his sample below a length of 20cm contained what he identified via microscope histology as differentiated ovarian tissue. Some specimens from 16 to 24 cm long contained intermixed ovarian and testicular tissue in the same section of the gonad, which he viewed as evidence of a transitional phase, as he did not find any larger hagfish with intermixed tissue. He did, however, find 3 hagfish with gonads that had fully developed along their length into ovarian tissue that produced eggs in the anterior and testicular tissue that produced sperm in the posterior.
In 2001, Davis et al. published their examinations of a small number of Atlantic hagfish (M. glutinosa). (they also did some experiments with injecting lamprey hormones into hagfish but I am interested in how hagfish sexual development works without encounters with scientists doing cyclostome HRT so I am only counting the results from the first part of the experiment). Their sample size was VERY small, and so I donât think itâs reasonable to take it as reflective of wild populations, but what interests me about this study is that despite the small sample size they still identified multiple hagfish that contained both mature ovarian and mature testicular tissue. They also identified some hagfish with intermixed ovarian and testicular tissue, but lumped those in with the hagfish with undifferentiated gonadal tissue in their data set so I have no further information what that looked like or how many of them there were. But itâs worth noting.
In 2004 Powell et al. published an experiment measuring hormone concentrations within the gonads of M. glutinosa. Unfortunately they also made some choices with how to sample the gonads that interfered with their results. Their results indicated that estradiol and progesterone levels seem to fluctuate seasonally within hagfish gonads regardless of whether they produce eggs, sperm, both, or neither. However, all samples taken prior to November 2001 were only from the anterior region of the gonad (you may recall one of the known things about hagfish gonads is that usually a developed anterior produces eggs and a developed posterior produces sperm â if you only sample the anterior portion of the gonad of all your hagfish you will almost exclusively end up with ovarian or undifferentiated tissue and you wonât have a full picture of whatâs happening in the organism, and if I am reading their graphs right that is exactly the result this produced) and when they started sampling the anterior, middle, and posterior section of the gonad, they found that the middle portion was usually indeterminate tissue, so they didnât include that data in their analysis. I think that is a meaningful piece of information about the structure of hagfish gonads, but at least they mentioned this at all rather than keeping it out of the paper completely.
Overall, due to the limitations of their sampling methods and the fact that this experiment didnât run for long enough to see if the hormone fluctuations were a consistent annual pattern, I donât think this is sufficient evidence for a synchronous spawning cycle, especially because hormone levels did not seem to be connected to the stages of gamete maturation. Hormone levels actually seemed to be more connected to age as estimated from size â the smallest hagfish had the highest amount of progesterone and estradiol at nearly every month in the study. When combined with Gorbmanâs hypothesis that all juvenile hagfish go through a period of ovarian development, this offers interesting possibilities. In lampreys, the other surviving group of agnathans, estrogen plays a role in the spawning cycles of both lampreys that produce eggs and lampreys that produce sperm. Lamprey ovarian tissue also has a higher amount of estrogen receptors than lamprey testicular tissue. (Sower & Baron 2011) Hagfish and lampreys diverged a very long time ago and their exact evolutionary relationship has historically been contentious due in part to the fact that hagfish, in the course of their evolution, shed many identifying vertebrate traits, such as having a bony spine. (Kuraku & Kuratani 2006, Ota & Kuratani 2006, Ota et al. 2007, MarlĂ©taz et al. 2024, etc., âwhere do hagfish fit on a phylogenetic tree relative to other vertebratesâ is one of the most heavily researched things about them) However, they are confirmed to use several similar hormones and hormonal pathways which are common to vertebrates. Because of the structure of hagfish gonads, it would make sense to me that if high levels of estradiol and progesterone in juvenile hagfish play a role in the sexual maturation process for all hagfish regardless of sex, it might trigger some amount of ovarian development in all of them, even if they donât all go on to produce viable eggs. However, this is idle amateur conjecture. Additionally, Atlantic hagfish and Pacific Hagfish belong to two separate lineages of hagfish (Myxine and Eptatretus) which are estimated to have diverged before the non-avian dinosaurs went extinct. (Kuraku & Kuratani 2006 say Cretaceous, Brownstein & Near 2024 say Triassic.) Thatâs a long time in which to develop different reproductive strategies, so we shouldnât treat Atlantic and Pacific hagfish as interchangeable.
In 2013, Martini and Beulig make the claim that observations of protogyny in hagfish were likely a misdiagnosis of different timelines of sexual development. They suggest that hagfish have a gonochoric genetic sex system (the genome of hagfish is of interest to evolutionary developmental biologists, among others, so a few hagfish genomes have been cataloged, but I found no evidence that a genetic sex system has yet been identified. This doesnât mean one doesnât exist, just that itâs not a settled matter), and animals who will produce ova simply begin gonadal development earlier than animals who will produce sperm, creating a population of juveniles that, in earlier stages, only have ovarian or undifferentiated tissue. They also point out that immature hagfish ovarian tissue can sometimes be mistaken for undifferentiated hagfish gonadal tissue and vice versa. As evidence they submit the observations that the sex ratio of undifferentiated, female, and male hagfish in their study sample shifts as the hagfish get larger, changing from mostly undifferentiated or female at smaller sizes to closer to a 1:1 ratio of males and females at larger sizes, and that all hagfish in their study above a certain size could be identified as male or female upon macroscopic examination.
I do not uncritically accept their conclusions. The main issue I have is that while they do seem to have performed some microscope histology on some of their samples (this is my interpretation of the statement on page 2 that âStaging was verified by histological examination of representative members of each stage,â which to me indicates that they verified their overall ability to sort hagfish through macroscopic examination by confirming their diagnosis via microscope histology performed on one or more individual hagfish per stage), they didnât do it on all of them, and they primarily categorized the hagfishesâ reproductive organs by macroscopic analysis, as in, by observing them with standard human vision. Several of the papers I read, including this one, note that early ovarian development can only be distinguished from undifferentiated tissue under a microscope. This means that if all hagfish do undergo some amount of ovarian development prior to sexual maturity as Gorbman and Powell et al. believe, the methods used in this study would not catch it. It would have been helpful for clarifying the mysteries of hagfish sexual differentiation if they used a microscope to check hagfish with testicular tissue for the telltale leftover vascular and connective tissue in the anterior section Gorbman described. It would have been particularly helpful considering that the preceding 3 studies had a low volume of hagfish with testicular tissue and some did not have any hagfish at the later stages of testicular tissue development at all, while Martini & Beullig acquired multiple hagfish in every stage of testicular development. This is a different species in a different part of the world from Gorbmanâs study, but they are at least both genus Eptatretus, which makes them a little more comparable.
Fleury et al. (2021) seem to share Martini and Beuligâs conclusions about hagfish sexual differentiation to the point of also not doing microscope histology on immature hagfish gonadal tissue and diagnosing different reproductive stages through macroscopic histology alone. As such, while their study had by far the biggest sample size and included both Pacific hagfish and black hagfish (E. deani), I am not sure their numbers are as trustworthy as those provided by people who performed microscope histology on hagfish gonadal tissue. However, the sheer volume of hagfish involved in this study (thousands) means that microscope histology of all of them would be significantly more demanding than in the smaller studies, and diagnosis of mature hagfish gonads by macroscopic analysis is usually more reliable than diagnosis of immature gonads, so the information definitely isnât worthless. Itâs just not as comprehensive as I would like it to be.
There are issues with all of these studies. The first 3 I listed have very small sample sizes. This means, among other things, itâs completely possible that the conclusion that all juvenile hagfish contain ovarian tissue could have been an accident of sampling where they only managed to catch juvenile hagfish that were developing ovarian tissue, not because all hagfish do but because those specific ones did. This is one of the reasons itâs good to have a large sample size, because these sorts of coincidences can get louder and more likely the smaller your data set is. Itâs also possible that the researchers in the first 3 studies were wrong about what they were seeing, as this is a recurring problem in hagfish gonad analysis. They could have misdiagnosed undifferentiated tissue as ovarian, and they could have been sampling from areas of the gonad that decreased the likelihood of identifying testicular tissue. Itâs possible that the researchers who later dismissed the claims of protogyny in hagfish came to these same conclusions. Itâs also possible, because they were affiliated with actual educational and scientific institutions and I am not, that these later researchers were able to examine more of the data from these past studies (more pictures of tissue than appear in the published papers, for example) and disagreed with the histological analyses these conclusions were based on.
However, if that did happen, they didnât publish that information, and they havenât responded to my emails yet. And the information they did publish on their methodology and the reasons for their beliefs about hagfish sexual differentiation isnât enough to convince me. I am fully open to the possibility that Martini & Beullig and Fleury et al. are correct that hagfish sexual differentiation is genetic and hagfish are largely gonochoric with, as in many other gonochoric animals, a smaller percent of the population being intersex. However, I donât think theyâve collected or provided the data necessary to settle that claim. I donât think anyone has.
There are also several genera of hagfish. They split a very long time ago, and have over 80 identified species spread between them. They may all seem similar, as the hagfish bauplan needs little improvement or variation because they are perfect organisms, but it would be fundamentally absurd to assume that whatâs true for one species of hagfish must be identically true for the rest. If we get a full picture of the reproductive developmental cycles of one species of hagfish, we will still only know how it works for that species of hagfish.
I do find it interesting that nearly every study, even those with a small sample size, apparently managed to capture individuals with both ovarian and testicular tissue. The exception is that Fleury et al. didnât find any black hagfish with both ovarian and testicular tissue, but they also, as established, werenât doing microscope histology, and black hagfish are weird for other reasons. Both Fleury et al. and multiple fishery websites (I havenât yet been granted access to the population surveys that these claims are based on, but it seems worth mentioning because it matches up with Fleury et al.âs results) report a trend of catching notably more female black hagfish than males. No one is sure if this reflects the population-wide sex balance or something about the capture method results in more females than males. Black hagfish live much deeper than E stoutii, with some reports putting their range at up to 2,000 meters deep, which makes it less likely that weâre gathering samples that represent a full picture of what their lives and populations are like.
It would be, at this point, impossible for everyone who has published a hypothesis on hagfish sexual differentiation to be right. But due to the variations in methods used in the studies and the limitations of studying deep sea animals, itâs not easy to determine which hypothesis is most likely to be correct.
Why are people saying they change sex?
You may note that none of the studies I cited claim that hagfish change sex as adults. Thatâs because I havenât been able to find any studies in the past 30 years that make that claim or provide physiological evidence for it. The prevailing modern models of hagfish sexual differentiation in papers published by researchers working with hagfish are protogyny or gonochorism. However, many fishery websites, aquarium websites, and other science communication sources report a range of sexual differentiation strategies (protogyny, protandry, serial bidirectional sex changing, environmentally influenced sex differentiation, gonochorism). Presenting a hypothesis without detailed information on the limits of our actual knowledge is an unfortunately common situation in science communication, made even more unfortunate by the fact that itâs possible that the beliefs about hagfish posted on fishery websites are representative of the beliefs about hagfish that are informing policy decisions about commercial fishing of hagfish. Incorporating inaccurate beliefs about an organismâs reproductive strategies and capabilities in decision-making about what level of human-inflicted mortality populations of that organism are able to withstand is not great, historically.
The structure of hagfish gonads does seem to have at least some similarities to structures seen in vertebrates that are known to change sex (see Cole 2002, Maxfield & Cole 2019, and Langston 2023), namely that all individuals possess a gonad with a section with ovarian tissue potential and a section with testicular tissue potential separated by a section of tissue that usually is not involved in gametogenesis, but can become gametogenic later in life. However, there are multiple other factors that do not add up. One is that the social structures of hagfish are different. Many vertebrates that change sex bidirectionally seem to live in pairs and have a high mortality rate due to both short lifespan and high predation risk. It is hypothesized that these pressures makes changing sex an advantageous ability, because it increases every individualâs chances of being able to reproduce with any conspecific they might meet in their fleeting lifetime. (Pla & Piferrer 2021) Hagfish seem to occur in high densities, and most species are hypothesized to have lifespans better measured in decades rather than in days. Furthermore, hagfish are currently believed to reproduce relatively infrequently and none are known to produce a large amount of gametes per reproductive cycle, meaning that taking the time to switch off gamete production in one section of their gonad and switch it on in the other might end up decreasing the overall amount of reproductive chances they have in their lifetime rather than increasing it. While the structure of the gonad could facilitate some degree of species-wide sexual fluidity, it could also facilitate a primarily gonochoric population containing a percentage of intersex individuals with a fully developed gonad. For these reasons, more evidence would be necessary to make a claim that hagfish sexual differentiation involves changing sex, as a one-time event or serially.
I think itâs possible that part of the confusion around hagfish reproduction is due to a larger issue surrounding understanding hagfish in general, which is that people tend to think of hagfish as âprimitiveâ even though their lineage has been around and evolving just as long as everything else alive today. While they did diverge from the rest of the vertebrates a very long time ago and can therefore provide valuable insight into the timeline of the development of various traits in early vertebrate evolution, they arenât actually frozen in time. They (and the other surviving agnathans, lampreys (also a very cool group of animals, with significantly less mysterious reproductive cycles)) have survived hundreds of millions of years of sharing environments with the proliferating jawed vertebrates. Please consider the advantages of jaws. Contemplate the majesty of the noble hagfish, which not only gets by without but occupies a massively ecologically valuable niche in a challenging environment. Consider the suite of adaptations necessary to enable this. Yet there is a history of people automatically assigning hagfish traits that are assumed to accompany a âprimitiveâ, basal, or less sophisticated state, and sexual differentiation strategies outside of gonochorism have historically been one of those traits. Less so these days, but some people are still citing those older sources when they talk about hagfish.
This is particularly frustrating because itâs not untrue that we can use hagfish as a reference point when trying to understand the history of vertebrate evolution. However, itâs not because theyâre a fixed window into the past. Itâs because we have areas of study like âevolutionary developmental biologyâ and âcomparative genomics.â Understanding hagfish sexual differentiation could tell us more about the history of vertebrate sexual differentiation in general because similarities and differences from other vertebrates may indicate information about our last common ancestor, which was a very long time ago.
So they donât change sex?
I would say âprobably not,â but I would say it with caveats. One, we know very little about alive hagfish, full stop. A lot of what we âknowâ about hagfish is guesswork, and much of that guesswork is proven wrong when people find ways to actually check. Hagfish are assumed not to move much, but we arenât really doing catch and release with them and tracking their movements, we are mostly fishing them up and dissecting them and making conjectures based on where we catch a lot of them (itâs difficult to keep a tracking collar on an animal that regularly ties itself in knots.) Hagfish are primarily thought of as scavengers, but have been observed actively and successfully hunting apparently healthy prey while ignoring accessible carcasses. (Zintzen et al. 2011) Hagfish are assumed to live in a dull and empty sensory world, but they have a unique body-wide chemoreceptive system that we know very little about. Two, you can make conjectures about what an organism seems likely to be doing based on other facts about it, but you donât actually know for sure until you test your hypothesis directly, because nature and evolution are not strictly logical. I can say that it seems like an inefficient allocation of resources to turn different parts of the gonad on and off throughout every individual hagfishâs life based on the observed population density of hagfish and what weâve observed of their reproductive cycles as compared to the circumstances of animals that are confirmed to possess the capacity to change sex, but there are many traits and behaviors I think are an inefficient allocation of resources that are scientifically validated to occur in living things. Evolution didnât ask me my opinion on such matters.
What follows is idle personal conjecture and not to be taken as solid information. If hagfish do have a flexible sex determination system, I think it most likely that the flexibility is exclusive to the juvenile stage rather than a permanent ability in adult animals. Itâs possible that Gorbman and Powell et al. were correct that all juvenile hagfish go through a period of ovarian tissue development, though if you look at the recorded size ranges in Martini & Beullig and Fleury et al. and take size as an indicator of age (which works best in juvenile hagfish and starts to become problematic when theyâre mature, but we donât currently have a better way to estimate hagfish age), it doesnât look like every hagfish develops a fully mature ovary and then some later go on to develop a fully mature teste as in true protogyny. The size ranges of hagfish with ovarian tissue and hagfish with testicular tissue are fairly similar, and if all hagfish developed a mature ovary before developing a mature teste, you would expect to see a lot more small mature females and a higher minimum size for mature males. But itâs difficult to observe a dynamic sexual system in organisms that are dead. These samples provide snapshots of a single point in a hagfishâs life, leaving the stages of development before they were caught mysterious and terminally closing the possibility of future development. So even though true protogyny seems unlikely, there remains a possibility that some amount of ovarian development happens in all hagfish.
This next idea is based on very little, but it also seems possible to me that sexual differentiation in some hagfish may not be controlled genetically, but environmentally. This happens in a lot of different animals. If that is the case, it could be very difficult to figure out, because environmental factors that influence sex are varied and we donât know what factors hagfish may be sensitive to. My pet hypothesis based on nothing is that many species of hagfish appear to be colony animals, so I wonder if juveniles could potentially be responsive to the sex balance of the local population. Because they likely rely heavily on their chemoreceptive abilities to understand and navigate their environment, I believe it makes sense to assume that hagfish receive and respond to chemical information about their local conspecifics in addition to information about nearby predators and prey. They may be able to detect population-wide sex balances, and that information may affect their sexual differentiation.
(As an aside, another piece of idle personal conjecture about the way chemoreception may be a part of the mysteries of hagfish reproduction is that I think they may be able to determine information about the fertility status of specific other individual hagfish. This would facilitate reproduction in the absence of synchronous reproductive cycles. Hagfish donât seem to produce a large amount of sperm or eggs compared to many other oceanic creatures, so it would be problematic for their individual and species-wide fertility if they didnât have other means of heightening the likelihood of successful fertilization. Chemical signaling is a very widespread strategy for communicating reproductive information, so it seems like a reasonable possibility that chemoreception plays a part here. This is not a certainty. It would be difficult to confirm. There are many barriers to studying the sex lives of deep sea animals.)
HOWEVER. We donât know where hagfish lay their eggs or how they fertilize them, we donât know how the juveniles might differ in their habits and preferred environment from adults, we donât know what factors control or influence their sexual differentiation to what degree. As much as I personally enjoy learning about different strategies of sexual differentiation, we must be careful not to form hypotheses based on what we personally think is cool. So this is not me saying that hagfish definitely work this way, this is idle speculation. The only thing I am confident saying about this is that I think we are approaching the limits of what dead hagfish can tell us about alive hagfish, and fundamentally this question is not going to be fully answerable without observations of living animals over time.
What would it take to settle this?
If I were to run an experiment to test whether hagfish change sex or if their sexual development is responsive to environmental conditions, I would need multiple difficult things. One, I would need a protocol for effectively keeping hagfish healthy in captivity to the point that they could endure regular biopsies, which we donât really have, currently. Their average lifespan in captivity is much lower than their assumed average lifespan in the wild. Part of that is that itâs difficult to keep deep-sea animals on the surface. The conditions are very different, weâre only capable of replicating some of them, and we donât always know which conditions are necessary for animals to thrive, let alone thrive to the point of reproduction. However, another factor is that many people possess outdated beliefs about hagfish biology and do not provide for several identifiable needs and natural behaviors, such as not giving them substrate to burrow in and housing them in empty tanks, which is likely stress-inducing due to the constant feeling of exposure. This is probably related to the bias that suggests the less an organism resembles âcomplexâ and âhighly evolvedâ creatures such as humans (a common species of highly derived lobe-finned fish), the less meaningful its needs are. I am not surprised at the mortality rate. (If you contact me I will advise on hagfish-keeping for free and that is a real offer.)
Two, I would need years. Ideally I would watch hagfish develop from hatching to several years into sexual maturity. Current estimates put hagfish sexual maturity at around 4 years, but these estimates are mostly come from growth rates based on plotting the sizes of dead hagfish or, rarely, measuring growth over time in laboratory conditions with husbandry issues that the researcher running the study admitted could have affected the outcome. (Yamagutchi 2025) And, again. 80 currently identified species of hagfish with a divide between the two major genera dating back to before the K.T. event. They probably donât all mature on the same timeline. So we donât know exactly how long this will take. I donât think there are many institutions willing to provide that kind of funding on that kind of fluid time scale for an organism that doesnât exactly have charismatic megafauna status. (Do you think more people would like hagfish if they were bigger? Should I open a crowdfunding project to engineer a 10 meter long species of hagfish? Let me know.)
Three, I would need a lot of hagfish, and a lot of lab space. The conditions required for hagfish to mature and the conditions that might affect sex differentiation are unknown, so it would be best to have a multitude of tanks with varied qualities. Furthermore, while I have thoughts on how to improve hagfish husbandry, realistically this experiment is still likely to have a significant mortality rate due to the unknowns in raising hagfish to maturity. The fact is that it is not currently possible to replicate every single feature of the entire deep sea on land, so the setup is certain to be found wanting even if there was an infinite hagfish research budget. However, as there are many complications, risks, and current technological impossibilities in tracking wild animals through the deep sea and repeatedly biopsying them, maintaining hagfish in laboratory conditions that would allow the identification, prolonged observation, and repeat sampling of specific individual hagfish still seems like the easiest way to obtain meaningful data.
I do see why no one has run this experiment yet, though I think it would be valuable to do so. Given the importance of hagfish to the ecology of nearly every ocean on the planet (see this post for a little more on that), the fact that there is an ongoing commercial demand for their flesh, and the fact that many quirks of their biology may render them vulnerable to population collapse in unique ways, learning more about hagfish sex isnât something that we should give up on.
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Once when I was in undergrad, someone described something as âproblematicâ in class and our professor was like, âThatâs cool, but âproblematicâ doesnât really mean anything. It means that the thing youâre describing has a problem, and in and of itself thatâs not bad. Art, especially, should always have problems, or else itâs not interesting and not art, either. It sounds like youâre trying to say that this is bad, but you donât want to say âbad.â Is that right?â
So from then on whenever one of us called something problematic, he would make us talk it out until we could name the âbadâ thing we were hinting at. In this particular class, 7/10 it was some type of oppression, and the remainder was like, âIâm uncomfortable because this is very new/confusing/pushing boundaries that made me feel safe.â
Once we stopped calling things âproblematicâ and stopping at that, class got way more interesting and... we all had to say, like, âthatâs racistâ or âthatâs misogynisticâ or âew capitalism grossâ out loud, which a lot of us had never done in a classroom before. Or we had to be like, âUhhh... Iâm not sure whatâs so bad?â and confront our own beliefs and that was maybe even more useful.
Anyway. Whenever I see the word problematic, I canât help but think of this professor being like, âGood starting point, now letâs get specific.â I think when we have to commit to saying âthatâs ___â it requires a lot more careful thought about the truth and impact and complexities of whatever weâre claiming. Sometimes there really is some bullshit afoot, and also sometimes itâs art, and it should be full of problems, because thatâs what art is.
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