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I think Breen Frazier said in a his pre-season interview that episode 7 has a big call back to something from the CBS series; Some peice of Criminal Minds lore that has been unadressed will be addressed. I have no idea what that means but it makes me excited!
My first thought was something with Gideon because there seems to be a lot of Rossi in the promo images. But they've explored so much of Gideon's backstory already that I'm not sure what else there is left to cover, lol.
I think Breen Frazier said in a his pre-season interview that episode 7 has a big call back to something from the CBS series; Some peice of Criminal Minds lore that has been unadressed will be addressed. I have no idea what that means but it makes me excited!
Ok like as much as I would love to see Luke defend Penelope in this moment….i kind of hope he’s pissed. Penelope and Luke have never actually been in conflict in a meaningful way. I would kind of like to see it. And even though I think Luke would understand where Penelope is coming from, I would like to see Luke act almost impulsively on these intense emotions with his recent losses compounding all these feelings. I could see him being angry with her decision and hurt that she didn’t give him any heads up. Penelope alone without him as a defender for the first time ever, Luke going home alone to an empty apartment without her comfort, eating a Tupperware lasagna she brought over last week…. I guess I just want both of them to be miserable and sad and alone because I’m a sadist and I love that shit
*waving the gun around concerningly* like can you imagine Luke just having to walk away from this next episode leaving Penelope to defend herself alone? I do wonder if her secretiveness is something that will irritate him…and as much as I would like him to defend her I would also like to hear her defend herself. Even better, what if he snaps at her for the first time ever??? How would she respond??!!
Yes! Before the season started, I said I wanted to see them have a real argument. I love watching relationships get tested and the amount of yearning we'd get from both of them would be incredible.
The writers have gone out of their way to show us that Luke and Penelope tell eachother everything. Luke has extensive knowledge of Penelope's love life, he knows more about why she was visiting Voit than anyone else, and Penelope was the only person Luke felt safe enough to talk to about Roxy. So why was was this the line? He's probably wondering, what part of their relationship made her feel like she couldn't be honest about this? "If you believe what you did was right, than what reason do you have not to tell me other than that you don't trust me or you don't think I would respect your choice?"
I 50/50 want this vs Luke just being her supportive rock in the face of Rossi's wrath lol I literally think I will be happy either way. But it would be so yummy if they had a fight about it and also perhaps got some admissions of feelings out in the course of this argument and then resolved their argument and made out 👍
It could be both! Rossi could say something a little too cruel and Luke gets between them, telling Rossi to go cool of. Then Penelope goes to thank Luke for standing up for her, and he replies, "Rossi was out of line, but don't think I'm not pissed about this too."
Luke allowing himself to feel his feelings, but still being ride or die would be so good!
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Ok like as much as I would love to see Luke defend Penelope in this moment….i kind of hope he’s pissed. Penelope and Luke have never actually been in conflict in a meaningful way. I would kind of like to see it. And even though I think Luke would understand where Penelope is coming from, I would like to see Luke act almost impulsively on these intense emotions with his recent losses compounding all these feelings. I could see him being angry with her decision and hurt that she didn’t give him any heads up. Penelope alone without him as a defender for the first time ever, Luke going home alone to an empty apartment without her comfort, eating a Tupperware lasagna she brought over last week…. I guess I just want both of them to be miserable and sad and alone because I’m a sadist and I love that shit
*waving the gun around concerningly* like can you imagine Luke just having to walk away from this next episode leaving Penelope to defend herself alone? I do wonder if her secretiveness is something that will irritate him…and as much as I would like him to defend her I would also like to hear her defend herself. Even better, what if he snaps at her for the first time ever??? How would she respond??!!
Yes! Before the season started, I said I wanted to see them have a real argument. I love watching relationships get tested and the amount of yearning we'd get from both of them would be incredible.
The writers have gone out of their way to show us that Luke and Penelope tell eachother everything. Luke has extensive knowledge of Penelope's love life, he knows more about why she was visiting Voit than anyone else, and Penelope was the only person Luke felt safe enough to talk to about Roxy. So why was was this the line? He's probably wondering, what part of their relationship made her feel like she couldn't be honest about this? "If you believe what you did was right, than what reason do you have not to tell me other than that you don't trust me or you don't think I would respect your choice?"
Fanfic idea where Luke insists on driving Penelope home after the event of 19x06 because even though he's upset she didn't tell him about Voit, he doesn't want her to fall asleep at the wheel. And when they make it back to her place, they're both so physically and emotionally exhausted from the last few days that they end up falling asleep, cuddled up on the sofa together.
Fanfic idea where Luke insists on driving Penelope home after the event of 19x06 because even though he's upset she didn't tell him about Voit, he doesn't want her to fall asleep at the wheel. And when they make it back to her place, they're both so physically and emotionally exhausted from the last few days that they end up falling asleep, cuddled up on the sofa together.
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Something I realized after watching episode 6 is that the structure for this season's big plots seems to come in pairs.
Episode 1 starts with hints that Luke is upset about something and episode 2 ends with the reveal of Roxy's death.
Episode 3 starts with JJ feeling out of her depth with her boys. Tyler also expresses feeling insecure about his place on the team. Episode 4 ends with JJ thanking Luke for his and Penelope's help with Henry and Michael. And Tyler learns some important lessons about profiling.
Episode 5 starts with Brian trying to involve himself with the case and episode 6 ends with him doing the right thing by giving up the Voit info to the BAU.
I think we can use this structure to predict how the Garcia story is going to go. We're obviously going to see the start of some real conflict between Garcia and the rest of the team in episode 7, but most of it will likely be wrapped up by the end of episode 8.
I really enjoyed episode 6 I just really really want them to follow through with this and actually discuss Penelope’s decision and how it impacts the team.
Penelope as a character is so out of place in this world - it’s part of what makes her so interesting to me! Even her coming to be BAU was a choice between the fbi or prison. She never would have chosen this path but here she is and she makes the best of it every day. But her extreme empathy and worldview is out of place and it does bring her into conflict with this world and other characters at times. My hope is that we really dig into this in the rest of this season.
I also want to mention that Penelope during the last couple of seasons has been extremely involved in the actual crime solving work at the BAU. She never used to look at crime scene photos, now she’s actively analyzing them. She never tried profiling, now she’s throwing out theories. She was a tech analyst, now they call her an SSA like the rest of the BAU. I wonder how this is impacting her mental state and I hope they bring this up because it’s something I’ve noticed especially this season
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I know people are going to be dragging Penelope after this episode. I've already seen it. The accusations of her being "OOC" and the statements of "Penelope would never do this." And I am here to tell you:
She would do this, and she already has.
In this essay, I will explain how Penelope testifying on Voit's behalf is completely in character, and delve into the background of her character that explains this behavior.
Penelope's Guilt & Her Over-identification with Unsubs
Penelope's foundation for her entire adulthood is the fact that her parents were killed, and she blamed herself. For decades. And I don't think she ever fully forgave herself, either.
When she meets with the drunk driver who killed her parents, she ascribes the same level of responsibility in their death to herself as she does him. He says to her, "the only thing I want is a chance to go back to that night and make a better choice." And fighting back tears, Penelope says, "We have that in common." She tells him her parents were looking for her that night, so therefore, it's her fault they were out, and her fault they died. Completely untrue in any objective, logical way of looking at it - but emotions aren't objective, aren't they? Penelope was 18 when her parents died and she felt it was at least half her fault for most of her adult life. So when she thinks about other unsubs, she can't help but think of herself as well. She thinks of the things that happened in her life to lead her to make a poor decision that 'resulted' in her parents death. And she can't help put feel that puts herself on the same level as unsubs. (And I have a whole separate essay in my head here about how this specific guilt about her parents drives her into Shane's arms, becoming a criminal hacker, and embracing an identity that she didn't feel. But I DIGRESSS.)
In s16, when Penelope is trying to track down Sicarius, she discovers a signal in all of his buried containers, and so she turns them on. It helps them see where all the containers are. But then the signals are turned off - which means that Sicarius was alerted to the fact that the BAU was on to him. Now, this serial killer knows he's being targeted. He will go to ground, he will destroy evidence, he will hide, making it harder to find him. Immediately, Penelope is struck with guilt - she wonders to Rossi, "Did I just make things worse?" Of course she didn't, but all she can think about is the negative outcome of her actions - a serial killer might get away.
There's another incident that happens in s18, with Tate Andrews. This kidnapped victim has a stomach filled with explosive bags full of fatal spiders. Penelope works her ass off identifying the signals and trying to disarm them, not realizing that the unsub predicted this move from her and put in a failsafe. Thus, her disarmament of the signal actually caused the explosives to go off, killing Andrews. Again - it's not Penelope's fault. She was trying to help. No reasonable person would ever blame her. But Penelope's base way of being is to feel guilt over things - she could have helped, but she didn't, and to her, she only harmed. When talking with Voit about this incident after the fact, she puts herself fully on Voit's level with him. She brings some cleansing essential oils to Voit and says "We're cleansing Tate Andrews, and the actions we took that led to.." and then she trails off, trying not to cry. But she is referencing his death. I just think it is very telling that she specifically said "the actions we took." She is implying a level of responsibility equal to that of Voit's, here. Voit, notorious serial killer. And she's putting herself on HIS LEVEL. Cuckoo bananas of course. But she can't help how she feels, and she feels like she is a killer. And if you feel like you've killed, well, it's easy to empathize with other people who actually have killed.
Penelope's Track Record of Empathy
Penelope, as we know, has that self-described freakish empathy going for her. I don't personally find it very freakish, but in her situation - working within the heart of a crime fighting organization - it puts her more out of place than usual. In the course of her work, we see Penelope routinely ferret out the nitty gritty background details of the unsubs. So she is privy to everything these unsubs have gone through in their lives that led to where they ended up. And as the show portrays, very often the unsubs grew up in horrible conditions that aided in their turn to evil.
No, she doesn't excuse anyone because of this. She very much cares about catching bad guys, stopping them from doing more harm, and seeing justice for victims. But two things can be true - she can care about all those things, and she can feel empathy for another human who has had a wretched existence that turned them into a monster. I mean, it is sad, isn't it? Someone could be raised in a childhood of abuse and trauma, their every day a fresh new day of hell, until it warps their psyche so much they lash out and hurt others? That's sad to me. That's a person who never got a chance.
So, this empathy has led Penelope to have two very signficant character moments in the show, and these are the two specific times that she has taken a very similar action as to the events in Proxy.
Greg Baylor. Baylor tried to kill Reid and possibly would have turned on her next, and she had to shoot him to protect them both. That was already a traumatizing event for someone who never uses guns and doesn't like to hurt people. Penelope was driven to an EXTREME in that moment, out of sheer desperation to protect Reid. And Reid even recognized the importance of getting Penelope out of her own head in that moment - repeating to her that she saved his life, that he was thankful, that it was good she did that. So on the heels of that incident which would have been very difficult to live through, hearing that Baylor was sentenced to death because of her indirect actions - shooting him and leading to his arrest - she feels responsible in that way she does when it comes to her guilt. She says to Morgan:
"Killing him doesn't bring any of the people that he killed back again, and it's bad karma for everyone."
Penelope is anti-death penalty, and that includes murderers and even people that try to kill her loved ones.
And she does not want Greg Baylor's death on her conscience, so she did with Baylor what she does with Voit - she tried to get his death sentence commuted. Penelope wrote letters, called the governer, whatever else to try to get his death sentence changed to life in prison instead. It didn't work for Baylor, but the point is - she tried to do the same. Exact. Thing.
Jesse Wilson. Jesse was the drunk driver that killed Penelope's parents. She spent a long time letting him be punished in jail. And for two reasons, one is that this was a very personal death to her so this is the strongest we've seen her react to an 'unsub.' But two - and most importantly - Penelope avoided the hell out of this situation the entire time. In the episode All You Can Eat, we find out that she's never gone to a single one of his parole hearings before that time. And I think this was a protective measure for her. Because she KNEW if she faced him, saw him in person, or had to think about him and his situation too hard - she would feel some empathy for him. And she was so angry, she couldn't let herself do that. And what happened the moment that she did go to one? She let herself be talked into meeting with Jesse, and she allowed herself to hear what he had to say, and she shared her own guilt with him, and then ultimately, she forgave him. Even at the expense of her brothers, especially Carlos. Even knowing there was a big chance that Carlos would never forgive her for this. But she couldn't help it. As soon as she saw things from Jesse's point of view and considered the impact on his life as well, her empathy won out, and she argued for Jesse to be released from prison. And for what it's worth - Carlos does eventually forgive her, because he knows that's who she is. He says to her - I might never understand how you could do that. But I know it comes from a good place.
Penelope and Voit
The entirety of season 18 was about Voit regaining his empathy. Cyrus broke his brain the first time, and now his concussion broke it back. We see a very, very different Voit in s18 - his character goes on a journey of rediscovering his empathy after a traumatic brain injury. We see him come to grips with the guilt he feels. We see him realizing he still has the monster inside of him, and he is afraid of it. We see him trying to do the right thing for the first time in his life.
At the beginning of season 18, Penelope says "I'm hoping I can see something salvageable in him." Penelope knows Voit's entire history, the entire horrible story of how he was raised by Cyrus after his parents died - abused, forced to help murder and hide bodies as a child, conditioned and groomed into becoming a psychopath himself. It's horrible for her to think of what his life as a young boy was like. And to see the serial killer he became - a brutal, torturing monster. It's almost impossible for her to think that that's all there is to him. An empty void that kills and hurts. She doesn't want to believe there is a person that doesn't even have the slightest spark of good inside him. So, she visits him, and she hopes that she can see that.
And, crazily enough, she does see that! Through the season we find out he's changed. Penelope is the first to accept and believe it, with the rest of the team eventually coming to accept it as well (to varying degrees over varying lengths of time). She bonds with Voit - they're both super hackers and connect over that. They joke together. Voit is appreciative of her, pretty much the only one besides his doctor to treat him like a person - something he knows he doesn't even deserve, but it still feels nice. Penelope is the only one to ask him if he thinks he is a good person. And that question isn't about his past, or even making up for his crimes - which he can never do. It's about what he can be going forward. Are you a good person? Are you going to make decisions from here on out to help, and not harm? Because for Penelope, you can be a criminal but still be good - because she was, after all, wasn't she?
Penelope believes in change, she believes in redemption. Penelope told us this herself, way back in season 4, episode 19 - House on Fire:
"You guys choose this. Turning people over like rocks, and looking at all their creepy crawly things underneath. And I get it, I do. It's the only way to catch them. But...
I want to see the good in people.
I choose to see the good in people."
This is who Penelope is - and she is choosing to see the good in Voit.
~thank you for coming to my ted talk~
Supporting Documentation
I've made a few gifsets and written a few rambly posts about the subjects above, because this is something about Penelope's character I have always. Loved. This is who she is, to me. So if you're interesting in seeing some gifs of several of the scenes I've mentioned above or just reading some of my other thoughts (some of which I've rehashed in this essay lol) then here you go!
10x02 vs 18x01 - Penelope fighting for Greg Baylor's life (vs Penelope seeing the good in Voit)
18x07 - Penelope asking Voit if he feels he is a good person, and Voit telling her yes, he thinks he can be.
16x02 vs 18x07 - Penelope's guilt on display during investigations, when Voit knows the team is onto his container locations and when Tate Andrews dies.
13x20 vs 18x07 - Penelope comparing herself to and identifying with her parent's killer and to Voit.
18x01 vs 18x08 - Penelope and Voit parallelism. Watching each other sleep.
18x06 - Penelope and Voit bonding. She sees good in him. She treats him like a person.
Why Penelope Feels Voit Understands Her (an essay)
Penelope's freakish empathy and how others she cares about interpret it (more just rambling thoughts and less of an essay but I figured I'd share)
13x20 - small picspam of quotes from Penelope about how she wants to make her parents proud, and her parents believed that a big part of love is forgiveness. I didn't even go into this in the above post really, but, this definitely informs a lot of Penelope's personality. Her parents died, she feels responsible for their death, so she lives her life according to the lessons they taught her as much as she can.
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