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Fun little thing about medieval medicine.
So thereâs this old German remedy for getting rid of boils. A mix of eggshells, egg whites, and sulfur rubbed into the boil while reciting the incantation and saying five Paternosters. And according to my profâs friend (a doctor), itâs all very sensible. The eggshells abrade the skin so the sulfur can sink in and fry the boil. The egg white forms a flexible protective barrier. The incantation and prayers are important because you need to rub it in for a certain amount of time.
Itâs easy to take the magic words as superstition, but theyâre important.
The length of time it takes to say a paternoster was a typical method of reckoning time in the Middle Ages. Itâs likely that whoever wrote this remedy down was thinking of it both as a prayer and a timespan and that whoever read it would have understood it the same way.
I wonder if this shows up in other historical areas besides medicine?
I ask because I have a very Italian, very Catholic friend who was once describing how she makes pizzelles. Theyâre cooked in a specific press, similar to a waffle iron, long enough to get light and crispy but not burnt, and in her own words: âI donât know the exact time it takes to cook them in seconds, but I usually do either two Hail Maryâs or an Our Father and a Glory Be.â
I would be extremely surprised if medieval people didnât use prayers while cooking. You donât want to roast an egg for too long, have it explode, and get hot yolk in your eye. :PÂ
I know that church bells were definitely used as timekeepers.Â
Before oven thermometers existed, one way to check the temperature of your oven was to stick your hand inside and recite an Our Father. The length of time before you snatch your hand out was timed by how far youâd gotten in the prayer. The shorter the time, the hotter the oven. So you knew that if you wanted a hot oven to bake bread, you wanted your hand out by âkingdomâ (for example) but to slow cook a stew, you might want the oven cool enough to get to âtrespassesâ.
This popped up in âNanny Oggâs Cookbookâ as well, though there the timing method wasnât prayer but X verses of âWhere Has All The Custard Gone?â
Other timing methods are âa whileâ (approx. 35 mins) and âa good whileâ (variable, up to 10 years, which the book suggests is a bit long to let batter rest before making pancakesâŠ)
All absolutely standard, and also varied from region to region. The use of prayer was more common than most, since the Catholic church had a monopoly on⊠well, pretty much everything. And all the prayers were in Latin, and at a specific cadence, so the effect is similar to watching the second hand on a clock today.
itâs important to note that to the medieval people the prayers were important because of timekeeping AND god. like, i think as modern people we do tend to want it to be âjust timekeeping, they werenât just superstitious idiots, they had a good reasonable scientific reason!â but itâs also important to remember just how culturally steeped in a mystical religion they were, a relationship with christianity entirely unlike the modern relationship found in modern american culture even amongst the most religious people. i have no doubt that in the medieval mind, they were aware of the prayer being the time it took but also if there had BEEN another way to measure that time, the prayer would have been held to be preferable and important in its own right because of the importance of spiritual assistance in worldly things like bread-baking
Definitely, this is a great point! I was talking to somebody in the comments who was saying that medieval medicine was mostly bunkum because it involves spirituality, supposedly meaning it couldnât also have logical basis behind it. But thatâs a really modern way to see it. To the medieval worldview, those things arenât contradictory. Theyâre part of each other. Think about how many medieval Christian scientists were monks, nuns, and priests.
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You guys donât understand how excited it made me to read this post, I literally wrote my masterâs thesis on this exact topic.
STORY TIME
Sometime in the 10th century in Anglo-Saxon England (for context, this is before the Norman Conquest and near-ish to the reign of Alfred the Great), a dude named Bald asked another dude name Cild to write a book. Not just any book. A leechbook, which was essentially the medieval version of WebMD for practicing doctors. BUT NOT JUST A LEECHBOOK. This leechbook was gonna be the damn Lamborghini of leechbooks. This thing was going to be split into two parts, the first dealing with external medicine and the second dealing with internal medicineâsomething that was unheard of at the time. It was going to be organized (head to toe, like all the good leechbooks were). It was gonna be nice (leather and vellum). It was gonna use all the best ideas (from all over the known world). And the whole thing was going to be written in Anglo-Saxon. Now, a few medical books had been compiled in Anglo-Saxon before, but none like this. This one was going to be EPIC. And it wasâand still is.
Baldâs Leechbook (also goes by the more boring but more informative MS Royal 12 D XVIII over in the British Library) contains a lot of medical remedies. A lot of them rely on things like prayers and chants and odd charms, like one for a headache, which recommends plucking the eyes off a living crab, letting the crab back into the water, and wearing the eyes about your neck in a little sack until you feel better. However, itâs worth pointing out that the really wild remedies, the stuff that makes absolutely no freakinâ sense, is most often recommended to treat ailments that are hard to treat even todayâmigraines, toothaches, cancer. These things are really painful or deadly and, without modern medicine, almost impossible to treat. So are you going to make up some nonsense to make your client at least feel like theyâre doing something, and hey, if it sort of works, it works? Of course you are. You want to help people. Even if it sounds crazy, what else are you going to do? You have to try something, and the people who are suffering are willing to try anything.
But thereâs also things that make complete sense. To echo concepts that have been mentioned by commentators above, there is a recipe that calls for the recitation of the paternoster while boiling a honey-based salve meant to treat carbuncle. The book instructs the physician to bring it to a boil, and sing the paternoster three times, and remove it from the fire, and sing nine paternosters, and to repeat this process two more times. A century ago, historians read the use of the paternoster as a magical incantation, but today, most agree that in lieu of a stopwatch, the paternoster is just meant to make sure you donât burn the honey.
BUT THAT ISNâT NEAR THE COOLEST THING.
Now, this book was compiled by a master physician (we donât know if it was Cild himself or if Cild was the scribe for an unnamed author) who was compiling recipes that had been written down for some time, and had, as many things do, gone through various permutations over the years. Many came from Greece or the western Mediterranean, and had been adapted for local English horticulture and herbs. Some came from around what is now Germany, and some ideas came from farther away in the Middle East (King Alfred was a sickly king; some scholars believe that he had his physicians seek out cures from all over the world in an attempt to treat himself). But there is one recipe that has only ever been identified in England. Not only has this recipe only ever been identified in England, itâs only ever been identified in this one manuscript. When translated into modern English, it reads as follows:
Work an eyesalve for a wen [stye], take cropleek and garlic, of both equal quantities, pound them well together, take wine and bullocks gall, of both equal quantities, mix with the leek, put this then into a brazen vessel, let it stand nine days in the brass vessel, wring out through a cloth and clear it well, put it into a horn, and about night time, apply it with a feather to the eye; the best leechdom.
For those who donât know and/or are lucky enough to have never had one, a âwenâ or a stye is a bacterial infection that manifests like a boil or a cyst that on the eyelid. They hurt something awful, and can cause larger infections of the eye. They are usually caused by Staphylococcus aureus.Â
With me? Okay. Fast-forward to 1988. A former biologist turned historian called M.L. Cameron decides to take a look at this old medical leechbook to see what he can see. He takes a good look and says âLads I do believe these Anglo-Saxon leeches werenât nearly so daft as we thought they wereâ (he did not and probably would never actually say that, Iâm paraphrasing). Cameron was particularly interested in the recipe above. As a scientist, he knew a few things:
Garlic and cropleek (leek or onion, or another related plant) have been known to have antibacterial qualities for centuries.
Wine (alcohol) also has antibacterial qualities.
Bullocks gall (literally bile taken from a bull) is known to have detergent properties, and has long been used as an additive to soap for particularly tough stains.
A brazen vessel, or a vessel made of brass, contains a good amount of copper in it. And that copper, when left to sit around for, I donât know, about nine days, would have plenty of time to react with the acids in the onion and garlic and the tartarates in the wine to create copper salts.Â
Coppers salts, as it happens, are cytotoxic, meaning they kill everything: tissue and bacteria.
What an interesting find.
Fast-forward again to 2015. A paper is published by a team from the University of Nottingham, whoâve been working on an âAncientbioticsâ project to investigate ancient medical remedies and see if they actually work. Theyâve turned their sights to the Anglo-Saxons, and are, as was Cameron, particularly interested in this recipe for an eye salve. Without boring you with the finer details of the experiment and its various trials (read it yourself!) I will spoil the ending by telling you that they discovered a few things:
This recipe, which was over 1,000 years old when they tested it, worked.
It worked well.
It worked extremely well.Â
So well, in fact, that (in a lab setting) they even got it to kill Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or as itâs more commonly known, MRSA. MRSA is a modern superbug that has built up a resistance to the antibiotic Methicillin. And this goddamn Anglo-Saxon witchesâ brew freakin murdered it.
Now, as an advocate for modern medicine and sound scientific method, Iâm not about to say that we should go throwing this salve on everything in 2019, because it is, if anything, just a starting point for modern scientists. This salve is still incredibly crude by modern standards and comes with a lot of potential problems. But as a historian⊠it works, you guys, it really works.
Medieval physicians were not idiots. They believed in magic, they believed in all things supernatural, they believed in all those things that are âunreasonableâ or unpopular today, and they practiced them too. But they also interacted with the real world with brains and intellects as sharp if not sharper than yours and mine. They were smart, they studied, they talked to each other in Latin and Greek and Arabic and Anglo Saxon. They made old recipes better and came up with brand new ones. They tried dumb stuff and they tried smart stuff. They didnât have access to even the smallest fraction of the information we have at our fingertips today, and yet they created things like this.Â
To this day, no one knows who created the eyesalve recipe. And no one truly understands why this is the only copy of it. If it worked so well, why isnât it plastered to the headings of every medical textbook from Alfred to Victoria? Speaking personally, I would argue that it has to do with language. Not so long after Baldâs Leechbook was written, the French invaded England and took over. Latin and French became the language of the court, and while Anglo-Saxon lived on throughout the country, and certainly lay doctors would have used Anglo-Saxon books daily, the language of formal English medical education was Latin. Oxford and Cambridge were late to the medical ed game after Salerno, Bologna, Paris, and Montpellier, and naturally fell in step with continental schools as a result, using Latin almost exclusively, and sometimes Greek or Arabic.Â
Point being, by the time medical licenses and medical college degrees are a thing in England, not only does almost no one of university-eligible class speak Anglo-Saxon anymore, no one has use for those Old English texts, because they donât get you your degree, and you canât make a living as a doctor without a degree and doctorâs license. And no oneâs going to translate an old Anglo Saxon text into Latin when Avicennaâs newest old hit, now in Latin, is fresh off the boat from France.
All that to say: Never write something off because itâs old. 1,000 years is a long time ago, but human ingenuity and intelligence are hardly modern inventions. The science of the world hasnât changed; only our tools and our perspective.
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Further reading:
The 2015 Ancientbiotics report:Â A 1,000-Year-Old Antimicrobial Remedy with Antistaphylococcal Activity
NPR: âAncientbioticsâ Researchers Look For Old Fixes To Modern Ailments
Mental Floss: 20 Anglo-Saxon Remedies from Baldâs Leechbook
Read a paper about how scholars are building on the work of the Ancientbiotics project to better understand how to apply ancient ideas effectively to modern medicine.
Look through Royal 12 D XVIII for yourself! Baldâs eyesalve recipe is on f. 12v and looks like this:
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Just thinking about âmad honeyâ for some reason
Image 1: Honey bees in northern Turkey (source) Image 2: Bee hives in northern Turkey (source) Image 3: âDeli balâ - the Turkish variety of âmad honeyâ (source) Image 4: Town in northern Turkey where honey is an important industry (source)
Deli bal - Hallucinogenic Turkish honey
An excerpt from Emma Bryceâs Modern Farmer piece on mad honey:
The dark, reddish, âmad honey,â known as deli bal in Turkey, contains an ingredient from rhododendron nectar called grayanotoxin â a natural neurotoxin that, even in small quantities, brings on light-headedness and sometimes, hallucinations. In the 1700s, the Black Sea region traded this potent produce with Europe, where the honey was infused with drinks to give boozers a greater high than alcohol could deliver. When over-imbibed, however, the honey can cause low blood pressure and irregularities in the heartbeat that bring on nausea, numbness, blurred vision, fainting, potent hallucinations, seizures, and even death, in rare cases. (âŠ) âThere are more than 700 different species [of rhododendron] in the world, but according to our knowledge just two or three include grayanotoxin in their nectars,â says SĂÂŒleyman Turedi, a doctor at the Karadeniz Technical University School of Medicine in Trabzon, Turkey, who studies deli balâs effects and has witnessed more than 200 cases of mad honey poisoning. (âŠ) Although the product makes up only a tiny percentage of the Black Seaâs honey production, itâs long held a strong Turkish following. âPeople believe that this honey is a kind of medicine,â Turedi says. âThey use it to treat hypertension, diabetes mellitus and some different stomach diseases. And also, some people use deli bal to improve their sexual performance.â (âŠ) The honey is taken in small amounts, sometimes boiled in milk, and consumed typically just before breakfast, he adds â not slathered on toast or stirred generously into tea the way normal honey would be. Its value to customers has given beekeepers an incentive to keep visiting those rhododendron fields and producing it alongside their normal honey products. (âŠ) Indeed, in 67 B.C. Roman soldiers invaded the Black Sea region under General Pompeyâs command, and those loyal to the reigning King Mithridates secretly lined the Romansâ path with enticing chunks of mad honeycomb. The unwitting army ate these with gusto, as the story goes. Driven into an intoxicated stupor by the hallucinogenic honey, many of the flailing soldiers became easy prey, and were slain.
â From Emma Bryce. âThe Strange History of âMad Honey.ââ In Modern Farmer, 4 September 2014.
Hereâs a view of the rhododendron species that provides the local Turkish honey bees with the chemical source for mad honey:
The species is Rhododendron ponticum (image source). The flower is the source of the grayanotoxin that gives mad honey its intoxicating effects.
Notice how lush and humid this region is. The âBlack Sea littoral zoneâ is a very narrow strip of land that runs along the Black Sea coastline in northern Turkey. The sea helps to moderate the area, so that the ecoregion is a highly-localized microclimate and is much more mild and wet than the rest of Turkey and the Caucasus, which are often defined by semi-arid or barren steppe.
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Mad honey from the Gurung people of the Himalaya
Thereâs also another famous âmad honeyâ from near the Annapurna Massif in central Nepal.
This mad honey, like its Turkish counterpart, is also made by bees using rhododendron, and also gains its hallucinogenic and intoxication properties from grayanotoxin.
In these steep valleys near the southern edge of the Himalaya beneath the peak of Annapurna, giant honey bees often keep their honey elevated at dramatic heights on cliff faces.
Take a look at some nice shots from a 2016 Vice documentary. (Image credit might best be attributed to the documentaryâs cinematographer Igor Kropotov)
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This Nepalese honey is harvested by Gurung people living in the nearby valleys.
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For context.
Hereâs where Turkish deli bal honey is produced.
The reason that honey bees can use the proper rhododendron species is because both the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea create narrow strips of land with fertile, marine-climate temperate forest. These regions are known as âthe Black Sea littoralâ forest and the âCaspian littoralâ forest. These fertile regions stand in stark contrast to the semi-arid steppe and arid deserts that surround the region.
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The Nepalese mad honey is produced at the abrupt Himalayan slope near Annapurna in central Nepal.
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Emma Dupree, 1898-1996. Photos by Mary Anne McDonald.
âEmma Dupree was an herbalist and traditional healer (sometimes called a âgranny womanâ) in Falkland, Pitt County, North Carolinaâ
She lives in a small hut with a palm leaves roof in a tribal settlement, deep in the forest of Kallar in Thiruvananthapuram district. Lakshmikutty, a 75-year-old tribal woman is a poet, poison healer and teacher at Kerala Folklore Academy. With medicinal herbs and plants surrounding her small hut, hundreds trek to the forests to visit Lakshmikutty, who offers herbal treatment for poisoning. But itâs not only medicine that she has to offer but she also helps calm those affected with her gentle words, which can last for hours.
Just last week, Lakshmikutty Amma received Indiaâs 4th-highest civilian honor, the Padma Shri Award.Â
She used her turn in the limelight to call on the government to help local conditions: "There is no road to my home. It was approved in 1952, but the work hasnât started till now⊠We have to travel many kilometres through the forest. There are wild animals including elephants. People cannot bring patients in time. Hence, I request the government to do something about it.â
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âMost of the people who do this are Christian. But their approach to Christianity is very animist.â
âThey believed that their ability to use plants and prayers to heal the sick was a gift from the Divine.âÂ
this is a really cool ethnobotany thing likeâŠ..amazing

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Celtic Goddesses Collection
Airmid -Â is the Celtic goddess of healing and she is the keeper of a spring that can bring a person back to life. In Irish mythology, she is one of the Tuatha DĂ© Danann (the main deities of pre-Christian Ireland).
Fruit & Herb Infused Water
Make a pitcher - perfect for springtime!
Lavender Citrus Water - Best if consumed first thing in the morning
alleviates anxiety, digestive aid, liver detoxifier, antibacterial, alkalizer
3 large lemons, cut into thick slices
Œ cup lavender
œ gallon of water
Minty Pineapple Water
good for digestion, high in Vitamin A&C, combats allergies, energy, prevent nausea, metabolism
8-10 mint leaves
Œ portion of a pineapple, peeled and cut into small triangles
8 cups water
Blackberry Sage Water
high in antioxidants, bone health, helps relieve PMS, skin rejuvenator, anti-inflammatory, anti-viral
10 cups of water
1 cup of blackberries that have been very slightly crushed
3-4 sage leaves
Watermelon Rosemary Water
heart healthy, potassium, diuretic, improved memory, mood elevator, fresh breath, anti-aging
10 cups of water
1 cup of watermelon cut into cubes
2 rosemary stems
Refrigerate over night if possible, otherwise, at least 3 hours.
Enjoy!
âAirmid - The Keeper of Springâ by Peter Gundry.
A lovely instrumental piece dedicated to the goddess Airmid!Â
Churchyard, by LÄ«ga KÄŒaviĆa
See also: #liigaklavina

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Thats honestly so fucking sad. But proves that Black People as a whole are literally the roses that grow from concrete.
Black women: fuck it weâll do it
Stuff like this gets ignored because it fits he racist narrative of Black people only destroying their own communities and not taking proactive steps to save ourselves and stop violence in our neighborhoods.
because apparently this needs to be said AGAIN
in the most general aesthetic terms possible
1600s:Â most witch-hunts ended in this century. no witches were burned in North America; they were hanged or in one case pressed to death
1700s:Â the American Revolution. Marie Antoinette. the French Revolution. the crazy King George. most pirate movies
1800-1830:Â Jane Austen! Pride and Prejudice! those dresses where the waist is right under oneâs boobs and men have a crapton of facial hair inside high collars
1830-1900:Â Victorian. Les Miserables is at the beginning, the Civil War is in the middle, and Dracula is at the end
1900-1920: Edwardian. Titanic, World War I, the Samantha books from American Girl, Art Nouveau
1920s: Great Gatsby. Jazz Age. Flappers and all that. most people get this right but IT IS NOT VICTORIAN. STUFF FROM THIS ERA IS NOT VICTORIAN. DO NOT CALL IT VICTORIAN OR LIST IT ON EBAY AS VICTORIAN. THAT HAPPENS SURPRISINGLY OFTEN GIVEN HOW STAGGERING THE VISUAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ERAS IS. also not 100 years ago yet, glamour.com â100 years of Xâ videos. youâre lazy, glamour.com. youâre lazy and I demand my late Edwardian styles
I just saw people referencing witch burning and Marie Antoinette on a post about something happening in 1878. 1878. when there were like trains and flush toilets and early plastic and stuff. if you guys learn nothing else about history, you should at least have vague mental images for each era
However, some places in the U.S. did still believe in vampires in the late 1800âČs, so thatâs a thing to think about.
Some people in the U.S. still believe in Vampires, Ghosts, Faries, Witches etc. in the modern day. Hell, there are literal witch hunts being encouraged by missionaries in Africa right now. Some people fall far behind the knowledge of their time.
hi, OP here. belief is not necessarily being âbehind the knowledge of your timeâ
Iâm pagan. I practice magic. I believe I have encountered ghosts. you donât have to believe the same things I do, but like hell will you denigrate anyoneâs beliefs- the harmless beliefs, that is; the witch hunts are still appalling -on my post
of course I believe in science. thereâs empirical evidence, so Iâd be a fool not to. but science doesnât disprove my spiritual beliefs. sure, some of them donât fit with what weâve learned so far, but weâre still learning. those Americans who believed in vampires in the late 1800s were trying to find an explanation for outbreaks of tuberculosis and, actually, the medical establishment at the time had only a slightly better grasp on its actual causes. the miasma theory of disease was still popular, though it was rapidly losing ground to germ theory. substitute night air for vampires and you get the a good chunk of âthe knowledge of their time,â and yet that sounded less ridiculous to them because it seemed to have scientific support
120 years ago, many people âknewâ that germs werenât real. who knows what weâll know 10, 50, 100 years from now? but more to the point, what you said is self-important, derisive, and utterly irrelevant to my post
I had only meant to add on to heywriters comment. I wasnât trying to target you. However, youâre right that what I said was derisive. I wonât be delicate about saying that supernatural beliefs are irrational. You are misunderstanding the burden of proof when you say that science doesnât disprove your spiritual beliefs. If thereâs no good evidence for a claim, it doesnât need to be disproved just dismissed.
So why am I being so harsh? Because, benign magical thinking opens the door to harmful magical thinking. Once someone believes there is a god protecting them from evil, it is a rational though process to conclude that there could be agents of evil working on earth who they must vanquish. Once someone believes that there are magical solutions to problems, they may put themselves at risk by turning away from effective material solutions. There are loads of scammers in this world who donât believe any of the magical bullshit they say but theyâll gladly use it to swindle the people who do believe it.Â
Break the cycle. Rise above. Focus on science.
The slippery slope argument? Really? What is this, the War On Drugs?
Look, just because I do a spell for dream clarity doesnât mean I wonât vaccinate my kids someday. I know the difference between problems magic can solve and problems science can solve. Some people donât, but as I said, theyâd be susceptible to junk science even if they didnât believe in magic.
Seems like youâre rising above enough for the both of us, on that exceedingly high horse.
There are no problems magic can solve. You also acknowledge that some people donât understand what problems canât be solved by magic. Thatâs exactly my concern. This isnât just about you. Magical thinking is useless at best and dangerous at worst. And I agree that pseudoscience is a similar problem
This wasnât meant to be anything personal. I had no idea who you were and I just wanted to add that supernatural beliefs are not tied to distinct time periods. There are still flat earthers, faith healers, and tarot card readers. If a writer put a witch hunt in 1920âČs Portland, it wouldnât be a historical event but it would be possible.
None you recognize. But if I want to solve a problem with a supernatural basis that you would not recognize as a problem but I still consider one, like not remembering my dreams, I would use magic to solve it. To say that believing in magic at all is dangerous because some people who believe in it donât understand its correct application and limits is like saying all science ought to be abandoned because pseudoscience exists. Itâs ridiculous to imply that any harmless worldview (note: Nazis, donât you dare jump on this; you guys literally advocate genocide) is totally safe or totally dangerous. Thinking is dangerous. Humans can come up with ways to be horrible to each other no matter what they believe or donât believe.
I understand that, but my point was to make a very general guide for people who know nothing or almost nothing about history. By witch hunts, I meant the classical, historical witch hunts people think of when they think of Salem or the Malleus Maleficarum. Also, for the record, putting tarot readers and flat-earthers in the same category is absolutely ludicrous. Divination is not denying proven scientific fact.
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^^^ Also, yes, agreed, militant atheists can get fucked. Like, you're more than welcome to think whatever and I'll gladly have a respectful conversation with you, but clearly @cybernetic-meadow just wants to feel superior to others. And, well, treatin people like that is absolutely no different than the Christians I grew up with talkin like that about any and all other religions. And that's trash.