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A scandelous rumer is about on the Lost Light!
An homage to Norman Rockwell’s “The Gossips”

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Always a little funny to me how Froid is immediately identifiable as robot!Froid, but Rung is far more subtly robot!Jung underneath all the secretly Primus stuff
That's because Freud is Freud and everyone knows about his bullshit.
Carl Jung is a whole nother can of worms entirely because most of his published works had nothing to do with people as individuals and more of the nature of the human mind as a species, religious theory, and he traveled so much that he wasn't really seen much in Europe, so despite how batshit crazy his personal life was, and how many scandals he had, unless you actively go looking for it most laymen don't know the drama with Jung beyond the whole Sigmund Freud thing.
And that's kinda the tip of the iceberg here, like the more you delve into Carl Jung the more ridiculously messy this bitch gets, like you don't even know how much the major players in the psych community back in the day had lives that read like a fucking telenovela on crack until you actually do a deep dive.
Once you put that into perspective, the Jung references you see in Rung is just as on the nose as Froid is, but also, it kinda dispels the whole "Rung is JRO's self insert" because there are some niche references and layered jokes in IDW regarding Rung that do genuinely make you ask yourself A.) just how long the author spent binge reading dead guy drama to make that accurate of a joke, and B.) that JRO has opinions on the Carl Jung/Sigmund Freud doomed yaoi theory, and C.) it is kinda infinitely funnier that JRO made two whole characters just for several tongue in cheek running jokes that only a psych student would get.
So what you're saying is we need even more bots based on psychologists and psychiatrists of the past
This is my second go at writing this reply because while I thought I would just be sharing funny trivia, I realized something that is either a crazy coincidence or an absolute galaxy brain Rung = Jung connection.
Jung had an esoteric focus on his work, which is the aspect I'm most familiar with due to my own interests. This involved taking ideas from previous occult/religious traditions, especially alchemy, and interpreting them as expressions of the collective unconsciousness of humanity. Mystical beliefs in self-transformation from famous alchemists were seen as an encoded symbolic guide for psychological improvement that could still be used in modern practice- the basis for his therapeutic practice. It can be very hard to track down the specifics of Jung's beliefs because he remained scientifically minded and constantly iterated on them. And oftentimes, what has relevance to later religious/occult history is how it was seen by people bringing his work back to prominence in the 70s/80s, which was often born out of misconception or just not based on the final form of his ideas. Jung's occult work was a massive influence on the New Age movement. Ideas such as zodiac signs influencing primarily your personality archetype is neo-Jungian. And the connection here is that spectralism, Drift's religion, is so clearly the Cybertronian equivalent of the New Age movement.
That's the interesting trivia over and now time for the thing that I realized. Last night when rereading the Mederi arc I realized Swerve, in the past, might have been the Cybertronian equivalent of a mystical alchemist (for the record modern historiography now indicates that most alchemists weren't mystics, and that all the major mystical alchemic texts were basically individual belief systems specific to their time and place, not a single system like Jung imagined it. But when doing literary analysis, Jung's conception is the system you're gonna have to follow)
Think about it. Swerve is a metallurgist, what most historical alchemists actually were. His religion is Adaptism, and mystical alchemy was all about causing change- in metals and in your self. Becoming closer to the divine and further from the flawed material world, a framework inherited from neo-platonism/gnosticism. Here he is actually mentioning alchemy (alchemy on the soul) and metousiosis- a greek theological/philosphical term meaning change in someone's inherit nature. He's also the most knowledgeable about ascension.
And the real ascension is very similar to gnosis. You gather enough knowledge and are able to transcend our flawed material world. I really do not get the deal with the Ascended Races in mtmtme. They're presented in a way that suggests the audience should already be familiar with, if not specifically them, the general concept. They're also relevant in Eugenesis, but don't seem to be a thing in transformers canon outside of idw I can find. The point of reference I do have is the mystical self-transformation view of the magum opus, the creation of the philospher's stone. Finding a way to improve metals into forms closer to the divine would come with/require asetic self-improvement that brings one's soul closer to the divine. Mystical alchemy would be even more natural to Cybertronians, as they are metal.
It seems like Adaptism as a religion is directly concerned with the very process of ascension that the Omega Guardians achieved, although probably in a corrupted form that promises individual salvation. Especially since the reveal is that the real Adaptus was very concerned with ascension. That was the cause of the God War, he believed that their utopian society would cause stagnation and they had to go around conquering other people. The thematic conflict between Adaptus and Rung is whether self-improvement means increasing your violent power, testing yourself against external threats; or if self-improvement means becoming a better person psychologically and working through your feelings in therapy and having bonds with friends. That's the big theme of mtmtme, war breaks you- talking about your feelings and having adventures with friends makes you better. (And there's a whole different path of intertextuality here through Transformer's descent from Starship Troopers)
So in other words, the final theme is that the best path to/better alternative to alchemical self-transformation/apotheosis comes from therapy/psychological improvement.
And I don't think its entirely impossible for JRO to have done this on purpose. Alchemy, and especially Jung's view of it, had a massive influence on literature and literary analysis. One of my main alchemy reference books A Dictionary of Alchemical Imagery by Lyndy Abraham in its introduction primarily bills itself as a useful tool for literary analysis. Along with Jung as someone influenced by alchemy, they also give Vladimir Nabokov (someone JRO is always referencing and gave as one of his major influences) and WB Yeats (his poem "Everlasting Voices" is the source of the title for the mederi arc, and its actually printed at the end of the first issue of the arc since the poem is public domain) in a list of authors that make heavy use of alchemical symbolism. So the odds of JRO's interest in literary fiction leading him to information about Jungian alchemy is pretty high. Especially since, like Freud, Jung had a much longer lasting impact on the field of literature than he did on psychology.
my fictional evil plan is that if i were cybertronian i would become a decepticon purely so i could then be redeemed into being an autobot by optimus and therefore automatically endear myself to him. like. the bar would be so low i would be soaring above it. i would be the poster child of second chances. i would be the physical embodiment of his hope for the end of the war. i would have his trust and affection simply because he would hate for me to feel alienated and tempted to go evil again. and if i DID feel justifiably alienated by the other autobots because of my evil fucked up past i would make sad eyes at him and play victim so he would pay more attention to me.
and the best part of all of this is that no one could prove shit against me because i would genuinely try my best to be a good autobot. i would simply be doing it because i want to be optimus' favorite little guy and not like. peace and kindness or whatever <3
the situation with harry potter is kind of unprecedented in some ways imo because it is maybe the largest media franchise in history to be created & owned by a single person who still has direct creative control over it. who is also a billionaire with significant cultural/political influence. like the usual "no ethical consumption under capitalism" type excuses shatter on impact when the bigoted author in question is logging onto twitter every day saying explicitly that when you buy the tim hortons ravenclaw donut she is using your donut money to fund the genocide of trans people. like with big franchises usually there's at least a little more diffusion of responsibility than this
There really is no comparison. Someone like Lovecraft, whose bigotry more directly influenced their work, was a nobody when he was alive. His works were much more reflective of the bigotry of his society than influencing them (similarly to how if Jaws was a box office failure, there wouldn't have been a Jaws effect). Richard Wagner did his own political writing and his idea of a pre-Christian Germanic culture did influence elements of Nazi party ideology. But he was so so far from being a main guy. Orson Scott Card as far as I'm aware, likely used his moderate wealth to support causes he believed in and his Mormonism is all over his work. But he didn't have the mass appeal to be able to use that fame to support reactionary causes. Creatives in industries like Hollywood have used their wealth and power to create systems of abuse and exploitation, and as terrible as they are, the reach of the violence is limited compared to Rowling or any kind of politician. Other celebrities who went into politics (Reagan, Schwarzenegger, Trump) have had their electoral careers eclipse their other work. It got them initial attention, but they eventually gathered up enough momentum that the continuing cultural relevance of their previous work is irrelevant to their political power. Hollywood celebrities are generally wealthier and more famous than authors, but the work-for-hire nature of their industry means that the line between the relevance of their old work and their financial and social capital isn't as direct.
And then there's JK Rowling. Everything is completely different for her. She isn't a conservative author donating the same amount as the owner of a car dealership to right wing PACs (or whatever the British equivalent is) and is never going to compare in shear quantity and the power that buys her compared to oil and tech billionaires. She's is essentially the patron of the entire TERF movement in the UK, and if the history books are written well- that's what she'll be remembered for. With the success of the Harry Potter franchise as the context for why she had all this power.
Scientific fraud is the most baffling thing ever to me like do they think they're just going to make a huge breakthrough and no one will notice that it's fake by trying to replicate their results
Yeah actually I just discovered how to turn plastic into gold. Oh you want to know how I did it
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Don't be fooled, Eugenesis isn't about mechpreg. It's about dronification.
why did he say it like that
Kind of shit that made Impactor carve "no more poetry" into the ground.
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Did I think Fluttershy bonding with Soundwave's cassettes in the MLP / TF crossover was super cute? Yes.
Would I rather have a scene where Ravage accused Fluttershy of being Functionist (robo-racist) and, like, bit her? Also yes. It would have been funny.
You recall Fluttershy getting more and more unhinged in "Best Night Ever", well now imagine her searching ever more frantically for an Actual Cybertronian Animal to nurture and instead she keeps running into sapient beastformers who respond to her cooing and cuddling with "wow so you want to lock me in a zoo and take away my right to VOTE, huh? BTW this is an HR violation" and Fluttershy becomes more and more crazed and when she does find actual Dumb Beasts they are a herd of metal Cybertronian horses and she freaks out because she never thought of equines as animals.
I think people often misunderstand my position on the Habsburg incest thing as "no, don't make fun of the royals I like!"
When really it is "I find it unnerving how fast people make fun of physical disability and equate it to moral goodness when you make it slightly ok to do so in context."
You wouldn't believe how many history books sound like they want to say slurs when they talk about Ferdinand I having hydrocephalus and epilepsy. Conditions, I must stress, can be caused by other things. Conditions other people have.
Well, you see, I'm talking about them as real historical people with real disabilities and not the Targaryens.
But yes, I'm making the point that people are looking for a situation where it's ok to be abelist.
Look, if you want to critique the politics of the Habsburgs and the idea of the empire and the whole structure of monarchy, go ham. I will help you in that endeavor if you want.
However, there's so much going on with that approach to it, so here are my thoughts in no particular order:
This idea presumes so much choice that just did not realistically exist for so many people. Archdukes and Archduchesses more often than not had no say in their marriage partner, because marriage wasn't about what they wanted. You, woman in this family, have to marry your cousin because it's what is best politically, and how you feel about the concept doesn't matter one way or another. This happens to men too, though less so, but off the top of my head you can look at Crown Prince Rudolph's marriage being more or less decided over his head. So, preference to marry a cousin you barely know really isn't factored in at all. You're lucky if your parent cares about you being happy in the marriage.
It's not about purity, it's about politics. The rule isn't that you had to marry a relative, it's that you had to marry a Catholic from a ruling dynasty. Add in the idea that this was chosen for you from a set of politically advantageous matches, because daughters and sons are assets to be used strategically, and you get a lot of marriages into the same set of families. As crass as it is, letting your children marry downward is wasting a bargaining tool. For the Habsburgs, the religious bar is also important and pretty constraining, especially when they aren't on good political terms with the other major Catholic powers (France and Spain) so you get Italian state and Bavarian marriages. If you keep reinforcing those alliances through marriage, that also means you're probably marrying a relative. Look at how quickly they leap at having new options when Belgium is established as a friendly Catholic state.
The above problem is complicated when someone in your family becomes Grandmother of Europe. Maria Theresa's extensive marriage politics means that a lot of the possible marriage candidates are almost certainly related. This is also, by the way, how we get Victoria's hemophilia being so widespread in the Courts her children married into, and everyone seemingly being cousins by World War I.
There is a lot of "might" going on with how disability works here. Ferdinand I's Wikipedia page ("citation needed" all over the place by the way) is littered with how his disabilities "might" be caused by heredity. But they could also be caused or compounded by many of the other things that caused birth complications or disability to be more common historically, like insufficient medical knowledge about prenatal care, insufficient maternal nutrition, or infections during pregnancy or after birth. Epilepsy certainly isn't constrained to just when your parents are related to each other.
Look me in the eyes and tell me that historians routinely acting like this man (who actually functioned pretty well in a world without anti-seizure medications) had no sentience because he had a disability from birth is schadenfreude.
Even if it was the product of their parents willfully having a preference to never marry the lower nobility or the bourgeoisie because they think they're gross commoners or something, do we really want to reinforce the idea that disability is a moral punishment?
It wasn't just Habsburgs who married cousins, people, until just a few generations ago, most of the human race lived in small villages and married within them about half the time.
Yes, things are different now, we know what lethal recessives are and also we get more opportunities to travel and meet people from different families. Just like we know more about hygiene and nutrition. But that doesn't mean people who knew less were bad, or didn't care about their children.

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So in among us society do you think there's frequent doubles with the same name or do the main crew all just happen to have the simplest names and the color names get more niche the further you go out from them
I like the idea that you increase how specific your color is depending on the social context. Everyone is going by their general color names because there aren't any conflicts. If two people named Blue are in the same context they'll both have more specific names to change to, which since everyone is a different shade will hopefully be different
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Loosely inspired by Nightbeat’s characterization in JRO’s Eugenesis
like. im so normal about this. i think about this a normal amount.
Something that has bothered me for a while now in the discussion surrounding Spamton's trans coding (or rather, the denial of it) is the idea that the dress mannequin can't represent anything negative because it would sully the meaning of The Dress itself as a symbol of freedom and self-acceptance. However, I think this argument fails to consider the idea that the dress and the dress mannequin are two different objects that represent two different things.
When talking about the meaning of the dress in this instance it's important to recognize that the dress can't be separated from the mannequin, both contextually and literally.
They are a package deal. The dress is permanently attached to the mannequin and must be analyzed with this context in mind. The dress being unobtainable on its own and instead being affixed to the mannequin makes this item inherently different from the dress in Undertale.
In Undertale, the dress is wearable. It's free to be given or taken with nothing to get in the way of that. In Deltarune, the mannequin flips this aspect of freedom on its head. The dress is unable to be taken off the mannequin or given to anyone else. The choice is taken away and the object is rendered useless.
The mannequin represents a lack of choice in the ill-fitting roles imposed upon oneself by others, and I think chapter 5 bolsters this idea even more with Pink's comment about how it "doesn't fit" just like how Spamton won't fit into the mannequin in chapter 2. Conversely, Ralsei likes the dress, but would be unable to wear it because it is instead being forced onto someone who doesn't want it.
Perhaps the dress freed from the mannequin would not evoke these same negative reactions, but as it is right now, the dress mannequin is the opposite of the dress in Undertale and shows how forcing people into roles that don't fit is a detriment to everyone. And, in my opinion, this is extremely fitting for a game like Deltarune, where the statement we are challenging throughout the game is not "In this world, it's kill or be killed," but instead "No one can choose who they are in this world."
ITS ALMOST LIKE HOW IN THE REAL WORLD THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT IS A PRISON WHEN FORCED UPON ANOTHER IS FREEDOM WHEN FREELY CHOSEN
What did Drift want to be when he was young?
To be happy.

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Does anyone have any links to MASH without the laugh track, the internet archive version is currently incomplete. I can torrent as well, I just know how hard it is to find the specific version of something on torrent sites.
Also if you have any top episodes you'd like to recommend, let me know. I'm putting together a best of watch order for my partners, and you can assume I'll include all the usual suspects, but I want to be thorough.
Do you mayhaps wanna draw Rumble teehee
YES i love rumble XDD
(based on that one meme.....)