I am reading academic papers about the symbolism of Nightingales in literature for my assignment and I hate that it’s making everything that happened in the finale make sense
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I’m here to recommend a book to all of my fellow Hozier fans!
- The Unworthy (Las Indignas) by Agustina Bazterrica
It fucking has everything!!! Wasteland setting and crippled nature, only woman characters, cultlike situations and religious imaginery.
Little spoiler : it even has a little digging up your lover from the ground scene so I’m just assuming the writer listens to Hozier too.
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kids have no concept of anything. i walked into my kindergarten class and one kid asked me what my name was. when i said miss jones, he said “i like that name. did you know i’m in love with you”
once i told a 6 year old that i had finished school and was doing “more school” [university] and she asked “why haven’t you found anyone to marry then”
We were at a museum and I was asking for the student discount and my nine year old cousin looks up at me with his eyes wide and says “wait you’re a STUDENT??”
I used to babysit these three kids and the eldest who was around 11 at the time was talking about how adults are boring and when I told him I was an adult he said, “That’s not true, you’re my age”
our aunt teaches and she has this story about a little girl who really was always pretty quiet in class and then on the final day of kindergarten she just up and stated ‘i’m all teached now. i don’t need to be teached anymore. i’m done of being teached.’
once when i was 19, I told my little cousin that i was 19 and she looked up at me with huge eyes and went, “Does that mean you don’t have to bring an adult with you to the pool?”
I watched my dad and my niece (3 at the time) arguing over a pair of pants and whether or not they were also a dress. My neice’s argument was that they were, in fact, also a dress because they were blue.
I asked the kids in my daycare class what they thought I should be for Halloween and this little boy goes, “ooh I know! A pickle! You’d be such a good pickle”
On the first day of class with my favorite student of all time, I said, “Are you okay? You look like you have a question.” And she looked me right in the eyes and said, tremulously,
One time I was working with a kid and he looked up at me and asked “Do you have a boy?” I had no idea what he was talking about, but I told him that I did not have any boys. He looked shocked and then deeply concerned and said “Well, you better hurry up and shave your arms so you can get married; August is next month!”
I was sitting on the floor with my 3yo niece and we were playing with her younger brother’s alphabet blocks and the O had an octopus on it. So I picked it up and asked her what it was.
“Octopus,” she said, all curls and smiles.
“And what kind of animal is an octopus?” I asked. I was looking for “fish” or “sea creature” but I would have accepted almost anything–”weird,” “gross,” even “slimy.” “Underwater” or “it lives in the ocean” would have also been acceptable.
She looks me right in the eye and says, happy as a clam, “It’s a cephalopod.”
when my best friend’s niece was 4 years old, i told her me and her aunty (23 att) were planning to move in together and she started uncontrollably sobbing while saying “you are kids you need to live with parents” and demanded “you are going to live with my grannys forever, always, the whole schoolyear!”
"could you hold this?" "could you sign this for me?"
closeups under the cut!
had such a blast drawing this and i'm really proud of how it came out! did the drawing itself traditionally and colored it digitally hehe at first it was just gonna be asa and anthony, but then i got an idea for a little then vs now to compare how far they've come 🥹
i personally enjoyed the ending, so i would appreciate no negativity towards it or other people's opinions in the comments/tag/etc, thank you!
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We need to talk about fandom's inability to accept endings
Listen, sometimes it's warranted (I'm looking at you, Supernatural 👀).
But more often than not, I find myself in a fandom that flips out about the ending of a show, despite the fact that the ending was genuinely well thought out and objectively effective in tying up the story.
It has happened to me multiple times that I finish a show and nod, thinking, "Yeah, this was a nice way to wrap it up." Then I go on TikTok or, especially guilty, Instagram, and what do I see? People in a frenzy, cyber-storming and harassing the creators, making mean-spirited rants about how the ending was trash and awful, and how dare they do this... And I'm just sitting there, like... huh?
And I think we desperately need to talk about this, but I don't have a long-format YouTube channel to analyze things, so Tumblr it is.
So far, I have identified 3 key issues fans have that cause this phenomenon, and unsurprisingly, the main theme is a lack of media literacy. But just shrugging it off with that is not enough for me, so here they are, with examples of two fandoms where I have seen this fallout live time:
Writers have no reason or obligation to canonize your headcanons - example: Stranger Things.
Y'all, it was EXHAUSTING being in the ST fandom when part 2 of S5 dropped. People were MAD mad, and after swifting through the hate comments, it seemed most people were mad about one thing: Byler. (Now, I want to put a disclaimer, bc people do have a piss poor reading comprehension on this site: this is not to say every criticism for ST s5 was unwarranted. There were legit issues with the narrative, there were some plotholes and the show overall struggled with its overload of characters, so obviously, some side characters didn't have space to get a proper end. And Netflix's insistence on more CGI def didn't help. But the overload of hate the Duffer brothers got was not justified.)
Truly, I have no idea what reality Byler fans lived in that made them so delulu... And I'm saying this as a fellow shipper who is a sucker for friends to lovers. But Byler was not canon the way the fans wanted, and was never going to be. Since s1, this love triangle of Will being in love with Mike and Mike being with El was set up, and it was very clear they were going to carry it out. It's not "queerbait" if the show never promised an ending where Mike was with Will. I don't deny it's a cute ship. But your ship doesn't have to be canon for you to enjoy it. Stonathan and Ronancy aren't canon, I still like them, so what. This insistence that a ship is somehow superior or only valid if it's canon is genuinely harmful to fandom culture as a whole.
But the main point here is: just bc a theory or ship is popular in the fandom, that doesn't mean the creators of canon have an obligation to make it true. The creators are entitled to write the story they want to write. I understand feeling upset if the reason for something not becoming canon is homophobia (again, looking at you, Supernatural), but ST is not a homophobic show. It simply made a gay love story that was not reciprocated. Which is incredibly important representation btw. (Hands up all the gays who had a crush in school/as a teen that went nowhere 🙋♀️ bc I can relate.) Just bc it's not the expected ending, that doesn't mean it's a bad ending.
(Y'all, I genuinely fear for what will happen in the Wednesday fandom once the show ends, bc I have a feeling it will go down the same path of nothing is good enough...)
2. The writers don't owe you happiness - example: Good Omens
This is also kind of true for ST, but I wanted to bring up another example where it's even more accurate. So a few days ago, the GO finale came out on Prime, and the reactions to it have been so conflicting it's nuts. Some fans agree that it was a great ending (me included), while others have been outraged and spamming comments, demanding that the studio release the "original script". Now, fair to say, GO 3 was noticeably rushed, and the 100-minute runtime was much too small for what the story required. But that isn't the fault of the story or the production; that is on Neil Gaiman and his nasty ass for not being able to be a decent person. His scandal jeopardized the entire project of s3, and for a long time, it seemed like there wasn't going to be anything done. It's a miracle in itself that we got this movie to begin with. And it was possible bc the rest of the writers and crew cared so much about these characters, and wanted to give them a proper end. Which they did. Despite all the impossible challenges, they pulled together an ending that was incredibly bittersweet and perfectly in character.
Then what is the issue, you might ask? The 'bitter' part of bittersweet. It seems like people now can't emotionally handle a story that doesn't end with every duck lined up perfectly. Honestly, people wanted a fix-it fic... while forgetting that many fix-its handwave away certain emotional hiccups in order to deliver that yummy fluff. Which is something you can't do in canon.
(SPOILER FOR GO 3)
The main "issue" is that it wasn't Crowley and Aziraphale that got together (tho I'd argue they died with the full knowledge they loved each other and that is sometimes enough); but their human reincarnations, Anthony and Asa. The most repeated complaint is "but they're not the same characters I loved :((", which completely misses the point that they are still the same soul, but born as humans instead. They got everything they could've wanted: a universe where humans are free, to be human, and to be able to live together without any strings pulling them away. I feel like ppl don't realize that there was no way demon Crowley and angel Azi could've been together. Truth is, with divine knowledge, they would always feel a sense of responsibility for humans. Even if Heaven and Hell disappeared, and they just kept on going, but without power, all their baggage would pull them down. Instead, they got to experience true freedom, and found each other not bc it was ineffable, but bc their love was so strong, it remembered even when their minds didn't. Honestly, if a person knows anything about reincarnation, karma, and the true way our souls travel from body to body, they immediately understand the ending. And I do. But spiritual messaging aside, GO fans often forget Crowley and Azi were never a proper couple. S2 clearly shows that during those 6000 years, Crowley was completely unaware they were in-love. You can actually see the exact moment during his conversation with Nina when he realizes. Meanwhile Azi always kind of knew how strongly he felt about Crowley, but he denied it even to himself. He was an angel, and he prided himself on being a proper angel at that. Sure, he wasn't, but he believed himself to be. His entire worldview and self-identity were based on the concept that Heaven is good, Hell is bad, Earth is neutral, and therefore angels are good, demons are bad, and humans are both. His love and devotion to Crowley was a threat to everything he believed in, everything he stood for, the very order of the universe. I mean, ffs, it took the destruction of the entire universe for him to be able to admit his feelings! And Aziraphale could not let the two exist together. But at the same time, he also could not let Crowley go; in fact, you can see him get more and more dependent on Crowley as time moved forward. So he just kept this limbo alive, which was ultimately destructive to both of them. And Crowley went along with it, not even fully comprehending why, he just felt the love and connection, that underlying feeling that Aziraphale is the only person who can even remotely love or understand him in this cold, dark world. So he let himself be used and bossed around, while also being incapable of reflecting on his feelings or finding a solution, just wanting to run away from the conflict. If you think about it, they were kind of toxic for each other, and in this context, with their baggage, they would always be toxic. It was only after they were freed from the context that warped them into this 'with-you-without-you' limbo that they could actually be each other's partners with no damage.
(SPOILER OVER)
3. Your fear of pain is not the fault of the writers - it's the fault of fascism
This is where the issue really lies. People have been conditioned not to accept negative feelings as natural or necessary. From schools censoring the hard parts of history to not upset the kids, to social media censoring words like fuck, kill, rape, or genocide to keep things "user-friendly"... Our environment is constantly pushing the notion that discomfort is unacceptable and you should never feel sad. When really, sadness, fear, disgust, and anger are more than natural, they are inherent parts of humanity. But in the current climate, it's all about performing happiness, neatness, and perfection. From the botox-craze, to the aestheticization of everything, all the way to the dumbing down of media. Where if a show makes you sad, then it must be written badly, if a comment makes you angry, it must be from a stupid person, anyone who makes a mistake is evil, and anything that's upsetting or inconvenient must be broken and thrown away immediately. This is happening, this is the underlying issue. This societal push.
Because it's actually perfectly valid to feel sad that a show you've invested so much time and love into has ended. It's fair to feel a sense of grief that manifests as anger or sadness. And it's especially natural to feel sadness over a bittersweet ending, bc bittersweet is supposed to be sad. What isn't valid is that, instead of processing these feelings, people throw everything back at the creators, pretending they did a bad job. When in fact, art is supposed to make you feel intense emotions, this is the whole purpose of its existence. But people nowadays expect conflict-free escapism and refuse to engage critically with the media they consume (and no, typing out "this was shit and I hope you die" is not critical engagement).
Mfs when the show about humanity and free will ends with a discussion of humanity and free will instead of just “and then they forgot all their trauma and didn’t gaf abt humans anymore cuz they had each other”
why the actual hell did michael not just destroy aziraphale's page at any point. why did he and crowley remain even after the entire book got burned. also s2 and 3 were supposedly planned as a whole but in s2 the book of life is implied to erase you from everyone's memories too. "you'll neve have existed" but all it does is kill you? where's the never existed bit.
Maybe it was my interpretation but I thought they remained bc they hold the book and eachother and therefore are part of what exists, but I realised that’s not explicit maybe?
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There seem to be two interpretations of the Season 3 ending.
People who hated the ending seem to see it this way:
The love between our boys turned out not to be enough. They never succeeded in being together as themselves, with all their history and experiences. They never succeeded in DISMANTLING the oppressive system. Instead, they had to destroy the universe along with themselves, all people, and all other beings. Their versions could be together only because they were freed from their circumstances, bad memories, and traumatic experiences.
This is not a happy story. It is depressing. It tells you that you cannot succesfully stood up to opressive system, and you cannot find happiness while carrying trauma from your past.
[This is how I have been reading it, if you want to know.]
People who loved the ending seem to see it this way:
The love between our boys turned out to be enough. They succeeded in DESTROYING the oppressive system. Their versions, finally freed from their circumstances, bad memories, and trauma, could finally find peace and be together.
This is a happy story. A “love conquers all” kind of ending, even against a literal omnipotent god.
The thing is, I believe that both interpretations are valid, and maybe it is time we acknowledge that. A slightly sad part is that I don't think one group can ever convince the other, because we are looking at the same story but interpreting it differently, probably because of our experiences. For this reason, people are now throwing insults at each other. This is very disappointing and heartbreaking. Fandom should be a happy place.
I have a final remark. It was to be expected that this ending would be polarizing, right? I am really surprised that this is the story we were given. [And no, do not tell me that it was the only possible ending. This is literally fiction. There were endless possibilities. I think even quite minor changes to the script would have made it less polarizing.]
Sending love to both groups.
I love this post. I also really like the implications it has on different political views bc it’s quite pertinent in the current times and scenarios to really think through how we interpret our own roles in bigger issues.
I personally think the finale is brilliant and uplifting for committed revolutionary standpoints. At the beginning of the episode we have Aziraphale portray the most well intended but non effective reformist ideologies, while Crowley as a contrapoint is completely aware of the systems injustice yet hopeless and stepping aside. By the end, their sacrifice comes from understanding that their potential role in bringing change and a better system is bigger than their wants or needs and their story and even their existence. They don’t billy sacrifice themselves in hopes for better but actually make the change happen. The last scene with Asa and Anthony is, for me, the final proof that their sacrifice brought change even if its not their very souls that we see.
I have really enjoyed the finale as well as the whole series and of course all the discourse going on about it :))
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