The Younglings deserved better

I’m back with another character portrait for my WIP Fanfic. This time we have Katooni, done by the incredible @jzeten.

This was a hectic project but I am greatly satisfied with the final product. 

I’m back with another character portrait for my WIP Fanfic. This time we have Petro, once again, done by the incredible @jzeten

Anakin Skywalker committed murder, mass murder, and genocide. He was not forced into it, he chose to. Manipulation does not equal forced participation.

Anyway, there’s a reason the windows are made to break. You see, the entire Fortress was designed with the purpose to keep prisoners within at all costs, especially in case of a full on riot / prison break.If that means flooding an entire section of the base and drowning everyone (prisoners or troopers) in there or sinking the whole base itself under, so be it.

So yes, Obi-Wan just escaped the same way Cal Kestis did. But no, they didn’t upgrade the windows. Because that’s the whole point of them. You have to remember, most force sensitive that are brought into the Fortress at this point are untrained or have very, very minimal training. They aren’t like Cal Kestis, or Obi-Wan, they wouldn’t be able to control the water like that to get to safety.

I think there’s two different flavors of “grey jedi” that people mean when they use the term. One is the “Jedi that doesn’t follow the [old] rules or left the Order but didn’t fall to the dark side” idea - usually applied to Qui-Gon in the first case, also Luke to an extent, and Ahsoka in the second. I don’t think this use of the term is claiming these characters are in some hypothetical grey area in between light and dark - I think they’re just using the term as convenient shorthand for “Jedi/Force users I personally approve of”. Either that or they interpret the Jedi through a fixed mindset, viewing characters through as inherently being lightside, being darkside, and if they don’t fit whatever they think those static concepts are, those characters must be grey - rather than through a growth mindset, where the light is about active resistance of the dark, continually striving to be a better person, and the dark is about giving in to temptation and defeatism.

I think the films reflect the growth mindset - they don’t talk about characters being dark, they talk about them being seduced by it, consumed by it - it’s not an inherent quality of an individual’s character, but a universal philosophical concept existing within everyone, within nature - to be confronted and resisted.

The second kind of “grey jedi” thing is the “both light and dark” interpretation, and as far as I can tell, is based off of the KOTOR games (you can find “grey jedi” robes and such), where light side/dark side is an alignment spectrum. Here’s a picture from a quick image search to show you what that looks like, in case you’re unfamiliar:

Force powers are also selected individually, some of which are light or dark aligned, but a player can use either with a reduced/increased penalty to their Force Points (basically a stamina bar for Force powers) depending on how aligned you are with the alignment of that power. So you could be playing entirely light side and zapping enemies with Force lightning if you really wanted to, since the game only awards alignment points according to dialogue choices, leading to gameplay that lets you rob and massacre people without consequence if you know your way around it. Hence, a precedent for edgy “grey jedi” who can do whatever they want without being accountable to anyone or anything.

Jolee is very clearly still light side, even if his alignment bar says otherwise. He defends the Jedi/takes their side in things, likes it when the player takes good actions, follows Revan out of exile to help stop Malak, and stands up against a dark side Revan. He literally cautions against the dark side and the Sith. Depending on player choices, he dies trying to save the galaxy, trying to help people. Narratively speaking, he’s light side.

Then we have Kreia. She’s definitely a archetypal morally grey character; her ideas of what is good and bad is all over the place and can be quite harsh at times, etc. She says she doesn’t like the Jedi or the Sith, but she still takes up the mantle of Darth Traya at the end. Her entire goal through KOTOR II was to manipulate the Exile so she could kill off the Jedi council and kill the Force itself. The Force makes up all living things, and iirc, she acknowledges that many, many would die from it (I’d argue it’d kill everything, bc it’s the Force). She’s willing to decide the fate of the entire galaxy simply bc she doesn’t like one philosophical interpretation of the Force.

She’s dark side. Her plans are completely selfish, and though she claims to care for the Exile, her actions shows us she never truly cared about what the Exile wanted or felt, at the end of the day. 

The mechanics of the game tell us they’re grey. The alignment bar and background are grey. But the story still clearly adheres to Jolee ultimately choosing to stand against DS!Revan (even though Revan can convince a few others to join them, even though he knows Revan will probably kill him), cautioning against the dark side, and bringing himself out of exile because he wanted to help, etc. And Kreia’s entire story is one of selfishness and greed, which are the staples to the dark side. 

Rex and Ahsoka could have easily taken the entire venator star destroyer they were on at the issuing of order 66 if the both of them kept their brains in V&D. Hell, if REX SPECIFICALLY kept his brain in V&D.

If Maul hadn’t been let out by Ahsoka, which he wouldn’t have been if Ahsoka hadn’t been dumb in this episode, and she’d had a droid make a distraction or have a droid lure Rex to the medical facility, dozens of clones would have survived.

Then, if Rex and Ahsoka had their brains still, after Rex was dechipped one of them would go “Hey, that surgery took literally LESS THAN 30 SECONDS (yes, less than 30 seconds, i TIMED IT)” then they’d look around at the unconscious troopers at their feet and say “Hey, these are living creatures that I love, and valuable allies, and potentially dangerous enemies. Since that brain surgery that freed Rex took so little time, we could dechip all of these clones in like five minutes. Sick!”

Then if Rex, with his battle strategist super soldier brain, had been like “Hey so Ahsoka, hide in an air duct, we need more time to dechip everyone on board this ship so I’m going to go to the bridge and get us out of hyperspace” and Ahsoka, with her smart tortuga brain, had said “I will go continue the proud Jedi tradition of hiding in air ducts” and then done that, Ahsoka would have been completely safe! ITS A MASSIVE SHIP, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? SEARCH EVERY SINGLE AIR VENT? TURN THEM OFF? SMOKE HER OUT? THEY GOTTA BREATHE GUYS.

So Rex goes up to the Bridge and is like “hey boys, orders from Lord Shiteous, we’ve been told to drop tf out of hyperspace until Tano’s dead. No chance of escape that way.”

They drop out of hyperspace. Nice, more time to dechip everyone on board! Bonus, if Maul escaped on his own (Easily explainable: the relic he was in was probably old and didn’t work so great since satine let it stay around) he now has no reason to destroy the hyperdrive generators. He can just leave. Even if he doesn’t realize they’re not in hyperspace anymore and he destroys the generator, they’re still not in hyperspace and they still left hyperspace safely.

All that happens then is that Rex and everyone who’s dechipped has to carefully lure a friend to a medical facility and dechip them. Bam!!! Amazing!! Everyone’s free!

so it’s possible Gungi [the wookie] wasn’t the only survivor of that padawan group…

could that be Petro?