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the relationship between yuki and zero is extremely delicate and complicated but to sit there and say “well they’re adopted so it’s basically as bad as yuki and kaname” is just a blatant misunderstanding of everything. you can live in close proximity to anyone and never see them as family. it becomes difficult to see someone as family when they act the way zero does. when it comes to legality, yuki and zero are NOT siblings. kaien is legally yukis father while legally being zero’s guardian. guardian and parent is NOT the same thing. it’s a similar role yes and there isn’t a lot distinguishing them but the acceptance of that guardian as a parent. because zero never accepted kaiens parental role, zero and yuki don’t have a pseudo-incest relationship. due to zero’s traumatic ass childhood he NEVER EVER seen yuki as a sister. she was always a friend in his head it was a friendship-lover relationship. they literally spend at the max 3-4 years together before she runs off with kaname. it was NEVER a sibling love EVER. they’re drawn looking younger but zero is 13 when his family is killed. story starts when he’s 16-17. if you yourself can consider someone a sibling that early if they act like zero that’s a you thing. ON THE OTHER HAND you get kaname. he’s 10,000 years old and when he’s found. he’s a literal ancestor of yuki and her parents. he is one of the very FIRST pure blood vampires ever. he’s one of the first and founders of the kuran bloodline. he goes into a very long sleep (10,000 years) and is awoken by his descendants juri and haruka yk yukis parents. the kuran family is the most incest filled families of the 7 pure blood families. rido is probably the first of the kurans to actually develop a relationship with another pure blood family. this is AFTER his obsession with his sister juri is forced to ‘end’ because she mates with her other brother haruka. rido chooses shizuka but never marries her. he has a kid with an aristocrat vampire and yeah that happens. i ain’t explaining. anyways juri and haruka have a son that they name after their ancestor kaname, after they get married. when rido finds out he takes that baby and uses his blood to resurrect a young looking 10,000 year old ancestor the original kaname kuran. with everything kanames body isn’t complete so to keep her son alive basically, the body is kind of reset into a baby. she takes care of kaname as if he were her son. again he is NOT the son of juri and haruka their son is dead. but she does the same thing she did with yuki, and seals away kanames memories of the last 10,000 years. unlike yukis memory seal or wtv, kanames is much much weaker. by the time yuki is born he’s starting to gain back his memories. and because rido is a fucking freak, juri tries to protect yuki by making her existence unknown to everyone. and the story goes from there if rido finding out and trying to take yuki and yeah. that’s that. so obviously by the time of the first episode kaname is almost completely aware of his relationship to yuki. he knows he’s one of the first of the kuran bloodline, he knows what juri and haruka did and that he was there just so they can feel like their son didn’t die. and he knows yuki was never aware of his actual relationship to her. he leaves her to kaien because he was friends with kaien when he was still a hunter. he knows what kaien is capable of doing as well as his wants. and for the years following kaname proceeds to in a way groom yuki back into her vampire self for years. because he’s insane. this comes with a lot of manipulation and ‘shielding’ when he was only meant to protect her from ridos weird ass.

the main issue i have with kanames story is that he knows everything like he knows everything about yuki and keeps it from her. yuki and zero grow together. their manipulation is very very different. one uses his manipulation to get what he wants from yuki while the other manipulates himself and her into pushing them away from eachother. zero really does protect yuki. okay yeah yuki should’ve had that choice but her story literally would not make sense or allow that to happen. yeah it’s wrong yes i hate it but i’d truly rather be with someone that doesn’t manipulate me with an ulterior motive. which was exactly what kaname did. he did it for his own benefit. zero wanted to fucking die for years and did manipulate yuki so that when he did die she would be able to move on with her life. at the end of the story that’s exactly what the fuck happens. zero dies for her and she lives 1000 years before resurrecting kaname and dying for him. zero worries about her fully her well being her future like everything and kaname is selfish. it’s for his personal gain and he disguises it as “for yuki” when it’s not for her. could the story have been done without incest yes obviously but it came out in 2008. i don’t know if you know anything about vampires in 08 but the story would’ve seemed like a copy of twilight. i mean you read/watch twilight and it is almost exactly alike minus the incest. vampire knight is almost exactly like twilight but has more reason backing why one of the love interest makes sense and is better than the other. so when it comes down to it.

zero kiryu/jacob black>>> kaname kuran/edward cullen.

i can make a lot of excuses abt why they’re the better option for yuki and bella but it mostly comes down to what drives them to do the shit they do. and for the 2 it is almost always a selfish reason and idk bro that doesn’t sit right with me. shit goes hand in hand honestly and if you chose kaname or edward. you’re wrong 💗

honest to god this is what i mean by i can write anything as long as im passionate about it

joker reflects what batman COULD be and what he has the ability to do if he lost his humanity. joker dying at the hands of the bat would lead to the bat being as bad if not worse than him. yes it would start out with primarily villains but if the bat ever reached that point what is to stop him from doing it to the civilians. who is to stop him. considering he has a contingency plan for every hero around him there’s a low chance anyone could stop him. “he’s just a regular guy” joker himself has admitted that there’s nothing normal about batman. for other hero’s to have a genuine fear of what batman could be it should show you that there’s a lot more to the mask.

whether or not you enjoy the injustice timeline or snyderverse they have relatively accurate depictions of how terrifying the joker truly is. he gets watered down leaving the assumption that “he’s just batman’s boyfriend” no bro. no one can gen be that obsessed with shipping characters that they actively forget how horrifying these characters are. he isn’t sweet or soft or a non threat he IS evil and horrifying. jason todd especially has every right to hate batman after EVERYTHING the joker did to him and seeing his adopted father do absolutely nothing to him. but batman has every reason to not do anything. you watch death in the family and batman openly says “it would be too easy to do it.” he thought about it for years following jason’s death. but if he fell past that line what would ever stop batman from becoming exactly like the joker.

my statement a year ago wasn’t fully thought through or explained properly because i was like 16 maybe 17 running off of 3 hours of sleep and irritation. babs specifically has had been shown 3 times having had some type of romantic relationship with bruce. yes one was written in by a director for dramatic purposes to make the killing joke more personal for batman. but the 2 other times are in batman beyond and if you don’t consider any part of batman beyond apart of anything sure my argument falls down and means nothing. either way she has a relationship with bruce after dick leaves for bludhaven. it’s weird is it main story canon no but i do consider batman beyond a very i don’t know important story to bruce wayne and the batman identity as a whole. the next is in batman beyond 2.0 where she DOES have a sexual relationship with bruce resulting in pregnancy. i don’t know what happened after BECAUSE i personally gave up after seeing that and did not attempt to finish the comic i will never attempt to finish the comic either. quite frankly i don’t care to read something that weird, because the relationship IS that weird.

the whole of my argument made over a year ago wasn’t that female characters in dc are primarily written as love interests for the males. i used babs and wonder woman as an example because of how they’re written. wonder woman specifically is written as this “i want to learn about the normal human woman experience bc there’s no men on my island” and has a weird love triangle with batman and superman. it’s either a love triangle or she has a relationship with one of them in that comic storyline. it switches between the 2 and if you’re ‘lucky’ you’ll get her also having a story with steve trevor.

just because it’s not the main canon universe doesn’t erase the fact that it’s been written and that has been my argument ever since. idk why ppl were taking it personally when i wrote it and trying to justify it because it’s a bunch of different alternate universes. it’s still weird. whether it’s once like the babsxjason or having on and off relationships with luke in dc bombshell or the story where she’s on a break with dick and gets with luke like holy moly bro. the arkhamverse is one of the biggest most known/played and shes canonically married to tim. and she has 5 MAYBE 6 times written as a love interest for dick. so if you cannot see my issue here i don’t know what to tell you. i don’t know how you can sit there and ignore it “oh well it’s not canon in the main universe” like yeah i know im saying they HAVE good enough storylines without being simply love interests all the time. i love batgirl she can have so many different stories before the need for a male love interest becomes ‘important’ but if writers cannot write a woman without her simply being a love interest LIKE HELLO.

like i was getting attacked for MONTHS about this. just because you decided to ignore it doesn’t mean it wasn’t written.

if you cannot write your women without them being a love/sexual interest for male characters i don’t know bro maybe get into fanfiction. fanfiction is kool you write whatever you want without damaging the canonic image of a character and you can make them as ooc as you could possibly wish✌️.

idk if anyone reads but like that was also a point i was attempting to make i don’t blame you if you didn’t see that i can’t stick to one topic half the time but that was the argument. now if i can STOP getting attacked abt ts a year later that would be awesome. i was never hating on readers i was hating on authors that should’ve just went into fanfiction. make your own characters and comics that don’t make women with great stories simply an accessory to men. it’s always going to be weird and i will always have an issue with that. objectifying women isn’t kool its never been just because it’s normal doesn’t make it right and im tired of having to pretend that im okay with it. it be grown ass men doing ts like what the fuck bro.

main story canon or not if it’s written and published and is something continuously written by other weirdo writers it is an issue. get into fanfiction write your own stories worry about that and ruin the characters in your own fanfiction rather than in a canon setting or something that can easily be mistaken for a canon universe.

yes it’s not ALWAYS written but it’s written enough times that it does start to become an issue. if kids are getting into comics and reading it, the same way i was, (the same reason i wrote it btw bc a huge point i made was that my first introduction to wonder woman was through snyderverse and the injustice universe. it made me hate wonder woman for years because i could not stand how she was written. i knew i loved dc but i was also 10 and did not understand the difference between a bunch of different universes at the time. was i a dumb kid probably but you cannot expect kids to always grasp that idea at such a young age. it can ruin the image of characters when they are introduced to them the same way i was) you cannot expect you get fans to understand the complexity of that. some kids are not always quick to differentiate universes and writers. i know this from personal experience. it took me years to genuinely wrap my head around it. again i was a stupid kid but when something is like that it isn’t always easy to understand there’s many different reasons for that misunderstanding. BUT that misunderstanding can and very often leads to a hate for a character. i didn’t know what the main universe was for years because i’d get into so many comics and i wasn’t online to see what was what. is it the same for everyone now, no, but mistakes happen✌️

toji took care of megumi and tsumiki that entire time. tsumikis mother abandoned her after marrying toji and took that mfs little bit of money. toji only left for work. those 2 years of megumi forgetting who his father was and tsumiki taking care of megumi were because toji was dead. with toji dead nothing official ever happened with him being sold to the zenin clan. it was gonna but when they were getting ready to take megumi gojo FINALLY visited and told megumi “hey your sister won’t have a good life if you stay with the zenins”

megumi and tsumiki were never made aware toji died. he died on mission and shiu never involved himself with tojis family matters. dude literally disappeared after toji died. gojo on the other hand knew abt the 2 and didn’t do anything until megumi was like 7-8 years old. toji died when he was like 4-5. the neglect was bc they were kids with a mother that abandoned them and the only other person that knew of their whereabouts did nothing for 2 years✌️

i’m not hating on gojo dude was instructed to keep megumi from going to the zenins after his curse technique manifested which should’ve been 3 years from then. but he COULDVE done something more with free will and all. he was lucky they didn’t die from malnutrition before then. obviously gojo does wtv tf he wants so it makes no sense to why he’d intentionally let 2 kids starve and suffer for 2 years. the argument of “he wanted them to live normal lives while he built his name in the jujutsu world” also doesn’t really hold bc holy hell they were on the verge of literally having nothing. that’s not in any way normal lives for 2 under 15… it’s hard to believe the little bit of money toji did get and would leave for them ESPECIALLY when he planned on making it back from that mission, it’s insane to believe that the small amount could last 2 years. and knowing tsumikis mom took the money from the payout from tojis last ‘job’ she literally left them with scraps. sure gojo was 16 but holy shit he’s gojo satoru. you expect me to believe he couldn’t find a way around the whole “minors adopting minors”… i dunno man

sure toji gambled but i don’t think he was going to willing let the one part of the only person he ever cared about die because he wanted to gamble. he found a way to keep megumi and tsumiki perfectly healthy and okay even when he did gamble away every dollar. was it convenient not necessarily but i mean dude was highkey depressed and taking care of 2 kids on his own and extremely traumatized. you can’t exactly expect a whole lot from anyone that went through half the shit toji went through. he definitely was NOT the best but he was no where close to being the worst

-edit- my grammar errors and uh wording errors are kinda not my concern lmao sorry 🫪

i’m not gonna do a dive like this on marvel simply bc i cannot get into marvel bc this whole thing from me stems from my love for dc and how it like originally impacted my childhood and i never really liked marvel during that time bc to this day im not too interested in it. it’s good but my love for dc is older than like a lot of shit in my life and it’s honestly a really big thing for me as a weirdo ass teen girl

i wanna start by saying i have always loved DC since i was 6. i am literally almost 18 now and my love for it only grows but DC comic writers are doing irreversible damage to the women roles by the way they write them. and the sad part is it isn’t only affecting the female characters bc it’s leaking into the male roles as well.

it’s actually disgusting seeing how badly they’ve fucked characters like wonder woman. in 1941 when she was originally created and released she was made to be a symbol of female empowerment equality and justice showing that women can be powerful and compassionate at the same fucking time. she was being released during WW2 when that view was very important bc of how america was during the war. now if you look at her character she is not the same. yes she has the same values sort of bc storylines like Injustice and a lot of others have fucked up her character so horribly. it’s made a lot of dc fans dislike her rightfully so. because personally for me i feel to hate her bc of the injustice story (i was like 7-10 when i first played the game) that was my first real introduction to her character which was horrible bc it made me dislike her but i started watching the wonder woman with lynda carter and it was a completely different person. 2 games alone fucked up everything she stood for. wonder woman was always supposed to be strong and independent and injustice aswell as new comic writers have fucked that up and have done so much damage to her character.

another character is Barbra Gordon as Batgirl and Oracle. she was and still is my favorite character. i love the bat family more than anything but i genuinely fucking hate the writers that they have. in a lot of issues of comic they follow a weird storyline like Batman The Killing Joke where batgirl is shown to have a sexual relationship with her mentor Bruce Wayne which 1 is weird bc bruce has always been a middle aged man by the time he meets the younger but more older more known bats (dick, jason and barbra). her have any form of sexual anything is fucking disgusting and harms her character right there alone. but obviously that alone isn’t the only fucking issue.

this is sm of a weird trope and i only say this bc not only does she have a relationship with Bruce Wayne no these writers made her have a relationship with characters that are supposed to be seen as siblings. bc as we know everyone that works under batman grows and has a familial relationship with him and those with him. and unfortunately Babs doesn’t only have a weird sexual relationship with bruce no she has one with the majority of the batboys. she has a weird relationship which mostly always turn sexual with Dick Grayson (Nightwing), Jason Todd (Red Hood), Tim Drake (Red Robin), and Luke Fox (Batwing). considering the first 2 are canonically adopted in every issue by bruce 1 that’s weird as fuck it is. but 2 all four of those boys have an important and close relationship with eachother yes they aren’t related but the relationship they have makes them more like brothers than just coworkers. Babs having a relationship with all of them is weird. babs and jason didn’t need a relationship that came from bonding over what the joker did to them. as much as i love the arkham trilogy (games) specifically arkham knight there were alot of unnecessary scenes between them. i do understand the game i’ve played it multiple times but it rubs me the wrong way seeing how other people think of babs and jason. bc in this storyline specifically she never had a relationship with dick but she does get married to tim after. it’s js a weird situation and it sucks bc a lot of other comics stay following the killing joke storyline or other comic storylines and it is doing so much damage to her character and what she stood for. i honestly find it fucking disgusting.

i understand writers wanting to depict certain things that happen in real life and not every comic in dc is one set universe or timeline but they also are doing so much to these characters and it really sucks that it isn’t only one or 2 characters bc it is so many female characters like harley too who originally did start out doing her things bc of a man but she was supposed to grow into her own character and now she’s literally falling back but she’s not falling back to where she started bc it’s only getting worse and it sucks. and another issue is the fact that its not only female characters it’s also the important male characters. the new redhood series. he doesn’t need a sexual relationship with helena. it’s literally weird af

long story short which it wasn’t and i’m sorry for it these fuck ass new writers need to stop basing female characters specifically around a man bc it’s doing worse for the character and ruining the image they were originally made to have and portray. and they need to stop basing every comic around a romantic or sexual relationship. because if you are being completely honest if the storyline alone isn’t good or interesting alone without something sexual or romantic happening between the 2 leads maybe just maybe it isn’t a good story or it isn’t a developed enough to be made into a comic. i’m not anywhere close to saying romance in comics are bad that’s NOT what i’m saying im saying is that if that’s all you think a story thats always been about justice, doing the right thing, empowerment or anything of what the original comics were made to be you SHOULD NOT be ruining characters by your fantasies.

there is a reason fanfictions exist there is a reason head cannons exist there’s a reason for communities. bc personally i indulge in fanfics like i fucking love them but it’s only bc it 1 isn’t cannon and it can be made into whatever writers desire and want to see and 2 it’s isn’t canonically ruining characters that stood for sm more and ruining what they stood for.

anyways i honestly really find the nana fandom to be so fucking annoying. they actually piss me off so fucking much bc everyone automatically take the idea that “only yasu and shin are the only good males in the story” firstly it’s not true the only actual innocent character by any means is shin. he was a child with ABSOLUTELY ZERO amount of guidance by every person in his life.

nana is a reflection of the actual human society and experience. everyone in the world and in the manga/show is as problematic as the next. yes there is a sort of ‘lesser of two evils’ but that does not excuse any character or person from being horrible. being able to understand that a lot the characters actions specifically come from trauma responses or emotions and environmental factors. being a nana fan without having an open mind and understanding how and why the characters acts specifically a certain way 1 shows the type of person you are and 2 why the fuck would you actually get into something not being able to want or attempt to see each side. i swear you actually need to read the goddamn manga with an open view and understanding of society and how people are because it is literally just a fucking reflection of how people truly are EVERYONE EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER is problematic and has issues some are worse than others but that is not the point. they’re all problematic and picking and choosing who’s worse and who’s better is fucking insane

the only characters that seriously deserve any form of defenders are the children caught between the cross fire (shin ren jr and satsuki) other than them NO character NOT A SINGLE ONE including both nanas everyone in blast/trap nest and those they associate with is innocent they all have literal issues and don’t know how to properly handle their feelings/emotions and their issues. everyone in the series needs some form of help for what they went thru and put other people thru. but that’s just my take.

also relating to a character does not make you a bad person (unless youre relating to the actions like takumi/reira if ykwim) everyone has flaws im not judging anyone’s flaws