Melanie

He’ll probably talk about Jared the whole time anyway 😂

And while I don’t personally think he hates M, I don’t think he likes him much either. He never brings him up organically, it’s always got to be forced by cockles stans, and even then Jensen often ignores it and talks about Jared.

Of course panels with him and Jared are always going to be the heart of every convention, and are always the most fun. But in solo panels, both of them are passionate about their show and the industry, and give answers some real thought. That's why we keep coming back to them.

With Mishap around, you don't get that because he's always ready to interrupt a story with some lewd comments that don't add anything good. I get the impression that he's not listening to what's being said to contribute so much as trying to jump in with whatever he's thinking to draw attention back to himself. It's like a seagull waiting for the perfect moment to swoop in, steal your food and ruin a nice day.

It's not a conversation like when Jared and Jensen finish each other's sandwiches sentences or add more context to what the other is saying. That's not interrupting for the sake of it; that's enriching a discussion.

Something happened at Purcon which continued on from JiB, and I think Jensen's last bit of patience may have frayed. He's reclaiming Supernatural from hellers and bringing it back to being a show about brothers hunting monsters and not some fanfic romance story between characters who weren't in the show. Hellers aren't asking leading questions about the canon Dean or Cas are they.

And he doesn't want to be exposed to that situation again like Purcon.

So, "Jenmish" panels have faced their demise thanks to Mishap and his fans. Whoops.

Purcon was not only about that disaster of a question. It was Jensen finding out in real time all the weird things Mitya has been coaching his fans to say. The "brownie" baby, etc

Jensen has his pride, for better or worse, your mileage may vary on if that's good or not, but I think being told he is Mitya's "bottom" finally got to him...

Then we had people freaking out & saying only Mitya & a single writer could tell them about Dean, not his actor! They treat like this is all really happening & intended, instead of being normal fans and using it as their idea of Dean (headcanon)

I never liked the idea of SuperWhoLock. Doctor Who, you should leave that poor show out of this. The Super only meant "Destiel" and the Lock only meant "Johnlock" and both were treated as true endgame. Then the shows ended the way the creators intended...no secret episode for Sherlock & no reciprocated Destiel

The warped perception of the fandom...they immediately think if you disagree you condone real incest, you're a bad queer person...but all we do is assert reality, and that they cannot abide

Unlike these online weirdos with their faulty psychic abilities telling them what the showrunners, writers, and directors intended? Jensen talked to those people about what was intended, when he wasn't actively shaping the scenes by how he played what was written and thereby influencing the writers' later choices. Not only that, but in the specific case of SPN, we know that the writers often deferred to smaller changes J2 chose to make, because while they didn't know the future storylines, they knew the characters better from being in their heads for a longer time and more consistently through all episodes than anyone on the writing team.

Oh, oh, but Jensen doesn't remember episode names or every single random detail. So what? Most people don't remember every single fucking detail of their own lives, but that doesn't mean they don't know who they are. Of course, since all of their bad meta relies on nonsense like, 'In episode X, scene Y, at the 3:02 minute mark, explain what [the lighting/your microexpression/cake] means if it isn't gay!!!' Not knowing what the actual fuck they're on about doesn't mean he doesn't know Dean or the story, it means no one outside their batshit bubble thinks a random background detail was part of telling a super sneakret different main story.

Like these are the people insisting some random Spanish voice actor they haven't given a shit about before or since knows Dean better because he was willing to pander to them but Jensen won't. Anyone who tells them what they want to hear - or they can imaginatively pretend is telling them that, and they're really good at make-believe - is an expert and anyone else has no right to speak. If Jensen was willing to lie to them, they'd be singing a different tune and we all know it.

i remember when they actually asked one of the lighting guys about the "bisexual lighting" and he was utterly confused. he flat-out told them they hadn't even known there were bisexual colors and they just used those because they looked good together in the scene.

there is no secret "dean is gay/bi" agenda. people have told them this. but they'd rather believe panderers and think that the colors of a pladi shirt are some sekret message to them.

"lowkey genuinely worried about jared. the man looks awful, his channel is a weird vibe and his stans (or whatever they are) are creepy af. his behavior is offputting on its own sometimes but someone should do a wellfare check on him at this point."

I am gonna be honest, what do they think us fan can do if he indeed was suffering through something. All we can do is show him love and support right? Isn't what normally Jared stans are doing. Being happy with what he is sharing, enjoying his content while hoping he is okay.

Do we know he is suffering? No

Do we still care about him. More than these fake glazers. Funny how they are attacking his funny and stupid channel that he uses for fun and calling it creepy. Firstly I don't know whats creepy about it. Secondly if they are so tensed about his health, shouldn't they be happy that he is still showing up and doing small things. He is trying.

They don't care about his MH. They care about him to drop his sanity so they can laugh and gloat and ask for him to be removed from cons. They themselves have accepted they want Jared to disappear. Thats what these fucking animals are hoping for. God these people are disgusting.

I mean, cynifer wishes he'd disappear! LOL

And again, Lynnette, what are we as fans supposed to do IF he was having these issues you want him to have so badly? Can we go over to his house and give him support? No. That's what Gen and his therapist, which he's been going to for years, is for! All we can do is be here ONLINE and show support at cons he goes to! It's not like he talks to anyone else about these issues he's allegedly having.

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We contributed to the soulless Sam discussion by explaining via "science side of tumblr" on why we love soulless Sam (post here) in part because he exposed the truths suppressed by the narrative of both the show and the fandom.

Anyways, here's soulless Sam trying his best to be empathetic but not succeeding.

The way they try to put him in between everything. Trying to squeeze that ass in every damn possible scenes and bonds.

"Dean would die to save cas and so would sam"

So why didn't he? I always love hellers trying their best to elevate the position that talking dog has. As soon as cas dies, dean wraps him up and burns him down. Doesn't even wait for sam to arrive.

"once he realized his feelings for Cas and saw him in danger, Dean forget EVERYTHING to save Cas, even Sam."

And the way I laugh everytime a heller bring me example of dean forgetting sam while he was possessed with gadreel and asked him to save cas. Sam had an angel inside and he was just knocked out. Thats it. Cas died. He just asked to save the dying person. What did he do next? As soon as gadreel put an actual choice between cas vs sam. Cas was cast away even when angels were actively hunting him. The way they make it 15×18 about dean choosing cas over sam. When cas already died and dean knew chuck wouldn't kill sam. He was hunting people close to them. So dean still didn't choose cas over sam. Media literacy is dead over there.

Holy crap, no, Dean would not die to save cas neither would Sam. Dean only died for SAM. He'd never sell his soul for cas or commit suicide for him, that's only reserved for Sam. That's why hellers hate the actual show. Because toxic codependency kills.

I read through this whole thread and it is their perfect fanon dean. Every destiel fanfic probably has the same dean, since i never read that hellish piece of shit. Atleast the tumblr post that i have seen them fantasizing has the same dean. Its hilarious how they take 1 moment out of 327 episode where dean says he is tired of sam and suddenly it defines Dean Winchester. Interesting how this person says how it was always meant to be them going their separate way.

But no matter the toxicity, dean and sam wanted to be together. They wanted to stay and anytime one of them tried to pull away and it was mostly sam, dean went ahead with any type of manipulation he can to keep sam within his claws. Its like they want dean to be away from sam. But its actually dean who is more obsessive. Sam never committed suicide to save dean. Sam loves dean as much as dean loves sam, but sam is able to let dean go if dean wants to. Now, same can't be said for dean. Dean was without sam for atmost 25 minutes and he was going where is sam in heaven and sam lived atleast 40 years. See who is more obsessive.

Lastly they thinking dean and sam were not soulmates. When in s6 when dean wakes up he think he is in heaven with sam, interesting isn't it. Sam didn't knew heaven changed but he wasn't surprised when he saw dean. Both of them could sense other's soul. So they were soulmates and even they knew it.

It looks like the full panel. It just went up a couple hours ago.