canines of the saviour

a) hoyoverse keeps retconning the female harbingers into actually nice people with human connections, meanwhile the male harbingers are evil-evil and

b) hoyoverse will retcon the Tsaritsas plan to "actually being not that bad" or that "Pierro is actually the bad guy and the Tsaritsa is just one of his victims"

and I do not understand where any of those comments come from?

or more like, i know from which /emotional/ place they stem but not where people actually see that reflected in canon. emotions are boiling high since a while inside the community. less primogems per update, events that are mid at best, miliastra wonderland getting primogem events, the leak of Lohen being standard banner being false and people saying it's a last minute decision by hoyoverse... the list can go on. especially since the last AQ that really split the community into different camps. so I GET IT that people are in that state of "the company is shit, so no matter what they put out next i WILL see it in a negative light".

But isn't it like THE thing about the fatui since the beginning that we are supposed to think they are the evil guys but that their end goal will end up being the same as ours? That our travels will take us to a point where we want to see Celestia and the Heavenly Principles get destroyed too? Isn't it like The Point of the Tsaritsas plan that she "wants to do a good thing but her methods are wrong"? And that it's all about that grey morality?

The girls having a slumber party together and a pillow fight and drinking tea and talking to each other on a friendly basis does NOT take away what happened before? Rosalyne can love opera and bring a cake to cheer up a friend but can also kick Venti to the ground or manipulate the Raiden Shogun. Same for the others. And this time is does not have anything to do with "they met the traveler so they are The Good Ones now", because the short took place before most of them met the traveler. I even think showing their off-time shenanigans makes some of their cruelties worse in contrast! (in a good way)

And for the argument that "the male harbingers are evil and the female ones are good"... i get it that 6.6 got to you but have we forgotten about Childe, Scaramouche and Capitano? I don't think anyone in the fandom sees any of them as actually irredeemable. Hell, Capitano especially has been shown in a mostly positive light in game, down to the behavior of his subordinates. Childe is the fandoms "mr. worldwide" that is on good terms with the traveler. Scaramouche had his entire redemption arc played out over years in the game. All of the harbingers stood against us at one time in the story but sooner or later the traveler realized they all had a common goal, no matter the atrocities they commited before they met.