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I find it fun to think about how Owain views relationships
I see Owain as both autistic and aroace. The Owain vs yuri bit is iconic and I think it would be fun to expand it beyond Owain doesnât understand yuri.
If you have seen my relationship chart for the KotRT youâll know that I view them as being extremely tight knit. They are a brotherhood with many famillial ties. Relationships are bound to get messy and blurry. Before I wanna touch on the yuri, I would like to talk about Nom, Katie and 4c. Owain finds out Katie and Nom are siblings pretty early on in canon. 4c and Nom view eachother as brothers. Katie and Rc are also extremly close and may also view eachother as siblings, but Iâm not as well versed in those two. But yeah, Owain figures out these relationships and his adopted self, who doesnât percieve a difference between blood family and adopted/chosen/found family, pointly catogorizes those three as siblings.
Can you imagine him refering to 4c as Nom and Katies brother in front of others pre Nom and 4c falling out. Owain is known for taking things litteraly and suddenly we have Nom loudly trying to explain to Owain how 4c isnât his brother. And Owain just goes âoh, did something happendâ, because in his mind for Nom no longer to view 4c as his brother something terrible most have happend. And now both Nom and Owain are confused. Nom explains that 4c is like a brother to him, but not his actual brother. Which only serves to confuse Owain further. So heâs your brother, but not your brother. If it were just to be the two of them, I donât think they would come to an understanding of eachother. But if others like Graecie, who is smart about people, were to be there, they might figure out what Owain means. Might because when it comes to himself Owain has got the emotional intellect of a rock.
Now back to the yuri. I see Owain as being on the absolute no romantic attraction at all part of the spectrum. He knows it exists. Kind of. But has no idea what it is. I like to think that âI love youâ is not a sentance with romantoc conotations to Owain, but rather just an expression pf general closeness. All of this is because of the KotRT and the pretty tightknit brotherhood. Kay and Bedivere may be married and may have tried to explain romantic love. But I am aromantic and I donât understand wtf it is, so neither does he. Also I havenât decided how I wanna do the Arthur, Guinevere and Lancelot situation, but I am between consenual polyamory, open relationship or A & G only staying married on paper now that Arthur has âan heirâ
All of this to say. Owain wonât assume someone is in a relationship, unless they directly tell him. Otherwise it doesnât occur to him that that might be the case. Especially with Shan being Owains best friend, he would assume she would tell him that if it were to happend. He is not as close with Eloise, so he does not have the same presumptions with her, which is why he asks Shan about them, when he hears the. talk about their relationship
Lastky I wanna quickly talk about Owain and Kitty. Neither of them experience romantic attraction and the best way to label their relationship would be as a qpr. But I imagine their relationship to be ambigious with both of them content with it being unlabeled
"everyone has the same 24 hours in a day" is a statistical error, tangotek, who has one million hours in a single day, is an outlier and should not have been counted
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HOW is it possible that I am seeing this for the first time? Now safely installed in my tumblr short cuts folder. I am SO bad at coding that this is a real life saver.
See, I don't think that Doc planned or expected to live through the war. Not after the first few months.
He could stomach doing what he did in part because he was convinced he'd die for it soon enough, and it wasn't his fault, really, he was just following orders, just a cog in a machine, so no need to think or feel or question, because doing any of that would just open up everything he'd shoved down--
If this gets 1k likes, comments, OR reblogs I will do whatever the craziest comment (or reblog) says to. I am confident this won't happen which is why I am making this post.
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Sometimes I lock in and make illustrations I didn't even know I could make
Going to watch more of Graecie's pov, jumping in the current streams with little knowledge to what happened before so I'm going off of context clues for the most part
her streams are really fun and I recommend everyone to watch if you want a new pov for the flight
Also someone said in chat how tf!graecie was more warm toned than her magic which was cool toned, that's why this drawing is mostly a sunset orange color as the puddle reflects her too
Me seeing a negative view on Pyroscythe's shipping boundaries: mhm, I can see that
Me seeing a negative view on those who are negative about Pyro's shipping boundaries: ok we all have opinions
Me seeing either side be radical about it ie. sending death threats to "repeat offenders" or on the opposite end, breaking boundaries to "prove a point": ok guys. no. bad. gets the spray bottle.
"We are literally in the middle of a truce," Scott says. "Do you get what that means? No killing, no desecrating, no turning, none of," and he gestures loosely to the grisly tableau before him, "this."
The coven collectively considers the corpse dumped on the table between them.
The doctor is very dead.
Owen scowls, which isn't particularly noteworthy, since he's been scowling since he dragged the cadaver into the castle. "It's not like you intended to keep the truce," he mutters.
"Sneaky. We were meant to be sneaky about it," Scott says. "Not whatever weird three-day waiting time your bloodline has going on!"
Owen proffers a perfunctory growl at the insult, but it's somewhat distracted by the very deceased elephant in the room.
"Maybe the humans won't noticeâ" Pyro says.
"Of course they'll notice," drawls Scott. "What, do you think they'll somehow miss that their doctor has taken a weekend sabbatical? Congrats, Owen, I hope your temper tantrum was worth it."
"He started it."
"Let's just drop him down one of the crypts," Pyro says. "He's human. Old. It's not so unlikely that he missed his step and broke his neck."
"The beacons bring the humans back when they die, idiot," Owen retorts. "If you could try to keep up at the back there, that'd be great."
"Do the..." Shelby falters, but already there is a strange tone in her voice, like she's sidling up to an idea and trying not to spook it. "Does town actually know he's dead?"
"I hardly killed him in the town square."
Scott hums. "You two do seem to keep vanishing off together."
"Only," and Shelby definitely sounds like she's sneaking up on the Lesser Spotted Questionable Idea with the world's biggest net, "we could just... keep it from them. That he's dead." She registers the expressions of polite skepticism, and barrels on. "I mean, I know he's dead, but he's not, like, dead-dead. He's not going to decompose. I read it in a book once, where there's these two guys, and their boss invites them to his home, only it turns out he's hired a hitman to take them out, andâ"
Shelby realises she's losing her audience.
"Anyway, it worked out for them, and they weren't even dealing with a supernatural corpse."
There's a belated pause.
The doctor remains so very, very dead.
"Humans can't even hear heartbeats," Scott says, after a long moment.
"Oh, you cannot be thinking about actually trying it," Owen snaps.
"Then perhaps you should've tried thinking before turning the good doctor," Scott replies, dangerously pleasantly. "Be thankful we're willing to clean up your mess. Now, you and Shelby can escort our guest back to town, and make sure he, ah, settles in okay."
Owen makes no attempt to hide his displeasure. "Why us?"
"Well, I can hardly show my face about town," Scott says innocently, "and Pyro seems to make the mortals uneasy, although I can't imagine why."
Pyro makes a face that's clearly aiming for disgruntled distaste of the humans, but landing closer in embarrassed territory. The whiteless eyes do little to buffer the expression.
"But they appear fond of Shelby," and Scott's voice softens, betraying the sentiment isn't town-specific, "and as for you... well, it's known the doctor has â well, had â a soft spot for you. I'm sure you can convince the townsfolk you're staying only out of mutual concern."
Owen is less sure.
There is a note in Scott's voice, however, that brooks no arguement. And thus, he later finds himself hauling the dead weight of the doctor, alone, while Shelby skips alongside him.
He's even less sure he wants to try.
"And you killed him," Scott finishes, in that same perfectly amicable tone.
"You could help, you know."
"But we need to convince the town that you care," Shelby says, eyes wide and almost managing to sound wholly sincere. "Anyway, he's too tall for me to support his other shoulder. I'd drag him the whole way."
Owen eyes Shelby. Scott has mentioned, in that off-handed, understated way of his, the nature of the literature she gravitates to. He wonders, warily, if she's planning on drawing inspiration from real life.
"Don't make this... weird."
Shelby blinks innocently. "I'm not."
"I'm only doing this to avoid the truce being broken."
"Right."
"I don't care about the doc."
Now it's Shelby's turn to eye her companion, gaze slipping to the corpse propped up by adjoining shoulders. She starts to speak. Falters. Tries again, and is visibly working to keep a straight face. "I promise you I will not be the one to make this weird."
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Scott Goldsmithâs Native Environment is a Horrible Murder Box
this has consequences
Vampires smp was originally billed as an amongus alike with light roleplay elements, so Scott Smajor basically just took a pile of life series conventions and built a character around it.
The life series, for the uninitiated, is a competitive minecraft youtube series where everyone has a limited number of lives (times they can die), and the goal is to be the last one standing. The mechanics gradually allow more murder to happen over time, so everything starts with people making nice with each other and ends with an absolute bloodbath. The tone is kept light by the mutual acknowledgment that everyone is a youtuber playing minecraft, but there has been plenty of discussion about how much actually living in that kind of world would suck.Â
And then we have Scott Goldsmith
Scott Goldsmith, who wasnât intended to be much of a character in the first place, winds up playing the life series conventions to the hilt as genuine character traits and social standards. For the most part, this worked out incredibly well! Scott Goldsmith is an interesting character that works well with the rest of the cast and is fun to watch, which is basically everything you can ask for in an improv series. There are, however, some artifacts from this that have some big impacts on how Scott works.Â
Most notably, Scott Goldsmith works from the baseline assumption that he will have to crawl over the bodies of other people to survive, and that thatâs just normal. Itâs not even anyoneâs fault. Everyone lives in a horrible murder box and the only way to succeed is to make sure that itâs you on top.
(this doesnât stick out too badly because noble power games are frequently just a slightly more free range murder box, so Goldsmith being murderbox georg does not particularly contradict his lore or backstory)
The other major consequence of murder boxes being Scott Goldsmithâs main thing is that Scott actually follows a fairly rigid set of rules and assumptions when dealing with other people. His own personal vampire code, if you will.Â
The code of Scott Goldsmith is as follows:Â
1: The in group deserves everything and the outgroup deserves nothing. Everything the in group does is good and justified, everything the outgroup does is not.Â
This is the bedrock of the gaslight, gatekeep, goldsmith social interaction special, and the governing principal behind what Scott is willing to justify and when. Basically, if he or someone he likes did it, then he will defend it and deny even the concept that it might have been wrongdoing. People that are not members of his coven generally have their actions weighed by how dangerous or inconvenient they are to himself or His People.Â
The most obvious example of this is the interactions with v!Avid in episode 6 and 7. In episode 6, he complains about Avid burning down Shelbyâs house, but in episode 7 he defends it by claiming that âit was uglyâ. The same instance of the same action performed by the same person goes from something worth complaining about to something worth depending based entirely on where they stand in Scottâs regard.
Note also that this rule has no interest in fairness or reality. If Shelby says âthe sky is green and the moon is made of cheeseâ, and Martyn says âno it's notâ, then Scott will back up Shelby because Shelby is coven and Martyn is not. If Shelby kills Martyn, Scott will immediately decide that Martyn had it coming. If Shelby kills Martyn, burns down the town, and declares her desire to destroy the world and rule over the ashes with an iron fist, Scott will fully support her in that endeavor.
2: A lone vampire is a dead vampire. Your power is directly proportional to the number of people that answer to you
On one level, this is just mechanically true for vampires smp. Every person turned is another set of hands that can corrupt the beacons, and, just as importantly, one more person taken away from the effort to consecrate them. Even if that person never switches sides, the fact that they canât consecrate any more or use the various human powers makes it a worthwhile effort, which is why there was a general OOC limit to turning only one human per episode. (and they had to take a break from turning people if they accidentally turned too many)
a more character driven level, Scott is very much a social threat, and acts the part. Turning people lets him acquire minions, who are easier to manage than outsiders, and generally arenât going to cause him problems.
Vampirism is generally more then enough to force someone into his faction, because once someone is turned the humans will do the bulk of the work in driving the new vampire away from them and into Scottâs waiting arms. Itâs a phenomena Scott is very confident about and takes shameless advantage of.
This is also why in episodes where Scott doesnât turn anyone (due to the OOC limits), itâs styled as him stopping because the new vampires arenât joining up- growing his power base is the main benefit of turning new vampires, and when that peters out he becomes more hesitant to do so.
3. Your actions should always advance your agenda
In other words, Scott mixes business and pleasure in the sense that his hobbies always contain some practical value.Â
This is, honestly, the one Scott haters get wrong the most. While thereâs nothing wrong with having a villain in your story, Scott isnât the sort of person to torture someone in his basement for the sake of it when he could be torturing someone in his basement for information, or to break them down into something more psychologically dependent on him.Â
Even if recreation is his main goal, he should ideally have a secondary goal as a matter of both practicality and preference- itâs just more fun for him if heâs being paid to be evil. (or buy some ice cream. Or pet a dog. Or help someone out)
4. Betrayal is a crime of the highest order. Loyalty is a virtue of the highest order.Â
What, exactly, Scott considers betrayal varies over the course of the series, but this is generally the governing principal behind the various times he menaced Pyro, why he didnât see v!Avidâs murder coming, and why he was both so pleased with v!Avid and so angered by his death.Â
Scott Goldsmith values loyalty, and to a degree both expects it as his due and considers it an obligation to give loyalty in turn. This isnât surprising- most Scott Smajor characters run along lines of loyalty and devotion. Scott Goldsmith is not an exception just because he is also a Dracula.Â
5. Support your allies however you can
Scott is, in fact, an incredibly dedicated ally. He does things like give Pyro food while having low hunger himself as early as episode 2, and the tendency to act like that only goes up over time.
This makes a certain amount of sense- helping other members of your faction also helps you because youâre all working together for a single goal. In Scottâs case this is especially true, since as the leader heâs deciding a disproportionate amount of the groupâs goals. A well fed minion is a productive minion. A productive minion is a lot more likely to succeed at your goals.Â
This one is the part that can be the hardest to reconcile with Scottâs everything else. However, itâs important to remember that Scott is not immune to the desire for companionship, and also that he actually needs to keep people on side in order to not die. In some ways, this is very much an extension of rule 2.
6. (new) be a good friend
Over the course of the series, Scott gradually gets attached to the other vampires, and comes to see them as companions with needs he should consider outside of their mutual victory. He realizes that he likes the people around him, and he wants them to be happy. That he cares about them as people, and not just as tools.
The process of this takes the entire series, but by the end of it his friends are a big enough priority that he points out opportunities to escape to his own detriment.
In conclusion:
1. Scottâs core character concept is âguy that is trying to get a good grade in Minecraft Hunger Games, something that is normal to want and possible to achieveâ
2. Scott Goldsmith does not so much have a moral compass as he has a set of rules designed to keep him alive. The bad parts of this are obvious, but there are good parts, too: when it mattered most, Scott was able to change and grow to suit the people around him. Owen and Ren, by contrast, violently self destructed and that hurt the people around them because they were too rigid in their personal convictions.
3. The support he offers to other people in the coven is real and sincerely meant. The expectation that those coven members will aid and abet his own misdeeds is also very real. Scott himself doesnât recognize the difference until the end of the series, where he asks Abolish to stop him from doing bad things.Â
4. The finale of vampires smp from Scottâs pov very much pivots around v!Avidâs death. It turns out that the rules that Scott shaped himself around werenât as ironclad as he thought, because the people around him would literally rather die than put up with them. The mechanics that demand violence and bloodshed can be subverted in a way that causes unnecessary death and suffering.
And, to be clear, Owen and Pyro are dead to him as soon as they do this. In part because heâs planning on killing them himself, yes, but also because their actions are tactical suicide.
When he next talks to Pyro in what is basically his eulogy, Scott thanks him for the reminder that he should expect death and misery, because as far as heâs concerned death and misery are the normal course of events. Scott was winning so much he forgot that murder boxes suck, actually.
This is increasingly a problem because, by the laws of murderboxes, Shelby and Drift are almost certainly going to die- they both struggle with pvp, donât have the aggression to cover for it, and with Pyro and Owen lost they donât have enough front liners to cover their weaknesses. If things continue the way theyâre âsupposedâ to, more people that Scott cares about are going to die.
So, Scott starts looking for another way out. After all, if the rules can be broken in ways that are bad, maybe they can be broken in ways that are good. Maybe they donât have to kill everyone. Maybe murderboxes are bullshit, and all of this was entirely unnecessary.
So he starts looking, and, surprisingly enough, there is a path out. Itâs not easy or bloodless, but it is a strict improvement over the status quo. Itâs an option that keeps his friends alive.
Of course, just leaving this murderbox isnât enough. Scott still has to deconstruct the murderbox in his own head, because otherwise his actions will simply create another murderbox around him.
Thatâs a bad outcome, so he enlists Abolish to kill him if he starts causing problems. Scottâs not great with morals, but heâs excellent with rules and practical consequences. So long as backsliding into the worst of his old behavior is guaranteed to go badly for him, he can be fairly sure that he wonât do that.
Actually figuring out how to be a functional person outside of the torment nexus is basically an entire novellaâs worth of character development that the series doesnât have time for, so instead it settles on âthey figured it out eventuallyâ.