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1. The ship art wasn’t made by the main creator. The main creator, Enrico Casarosa, made the movie with the intent to have it be a friendship and a platonic story. He supports the ship but it wasn’t his goal. The art was made by Kenna who I believe is a co-director or story lead or smth. A higher up crew member for sure but not the main creator don’t erase Enrico

2. It is not inherently canon. Kenna introduced the post as unsanctioned (meaning not official) fanart. Their word is not inherently canon to Luca as they are not the only or primary creator. Everyone says they’re canon now and as much as I would love that to be true I care deeply for semantics.

3. Kenna’s ship art is NOT CONCEPT ART. It was a fanart post made after the film came out, it was not an intended explicitly queer story concept that Disney censored (not that Disney doesnt do that all the time but let’s point fingers in the right places). If there were any queer plans it’s unrelated to Kennas art and it was not an openly shown romance between the boys.

The main creator, Enrico Casarosa, made the movie with the intent to have it be a friendship and a platonic story.

Luca (2021) was not always meant to be a wholly platonic story, devoid of romance. In some of the earliest plot lines for the movie, Luca was to have a pretty obvious crush on Giulia. However Giulia, being a lesbian, was not ever to be interested in him. For those two, the end goal was always friendship and never romance, but that can’t be said for Alberto and Luca.

Enrico Casarosa and his team did discuss the possibility of a gay romance between Luca and Alberto, it never came to fruition. Not because of censorship, but because they agreed it wasn’t the proper direction to head in.

The art was made by Kenna who I believe is a co-director or story lead or smth.

McKenna (Kenna) Jean Harris, the creator of the art, was the story lead, a supervisory role over story artists (such as the story boarders) for Luca and the writer and director of the sequel short film Ciao Alberto. They can pitch scenes, but they don’t often have a lot of control over exactly where the plot goes.

I love luberto and Luca is dripping with queer allegory but we can appreciate that without rewriting the intention of the movie and erasing Enrico’s vision or authority over his own world and characters.

Enrico Casarosa's vision for Luca wasn't not to be queer allegory but for its allegory to be ambiguous. Excluding Italians, the movie was not made with any one specific community in mind, so every different reading of the movie---even those with heavy amounts of crew support---is at best dubious in canonicity. This includes the queer reading.

#I just feel like it boils Luca down to a gay controversy while overshadowing projects that actually suffered from erasure #like Elio or more importantly all the TRANS CHARACTER ERASURE #THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAT TWO FISH BOYS WHO WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE EXPLICITLY IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER #you wanna get mad at Disney censorship don’t use Luca USE WIN OR LOSE. USE MOON GIRL. USE ELIO

As op said, Luca did not suffer immediate censorship so much as it faced controversy. Ever since it has become associated with the queer community, it has been repeatedly maligned by both its audience and Pixar executives such as Peter Doctor, and its achievements, such as being the most globally streamed movie of 2021 with 10.6 billion viewing minutes, have been understated and swept under the rug.

Despite this, Luca is still a very popular movie, and even in the controversy that followed its release, it spoke of a demand for queer stories by Pixar which allowed future queer stories a better fighting chance of actually coming to fruition. And in the following and forementioned queer stories*, there have been references made to Luca. Giulia Marcovaldo, tritagonist, made a brief cameo in Elio, and Win or Lose featured Parole Parole, a song originally performed by Mina Mazzini, the star of Luca's soundtrack.

Basically, at best, Luca walked so Elio and Win or Lose could have a chance to run. And, at worst, Luca faced intense backlash so Elio and Win or Lose could get slammed by censorship. Just like in team Pickles, there really aren't any winners here.

But yeah with the platonic story I meant more so between luca and Alberto specifically, and by erasing enricos vision I was attempting to reference the idea of how ambiguous it is. I think a lot of the misinformation I’ve seen has been pushing the story from his intent of something ambiguous meant to be able to connect to many demographics to something explicitly for gay people. I’ve seen this movie have excellent reads for trans and disabled people’s experiences separate from the gay reading that are just as valid interpretations but I feel like those are given less weight when you try to make it seem like the story is directly targeted to gay people specifically. So ty for bringing up the intent for it to connect to different experiences

And yeah unfortunately as much as wouldve loved if Pixar had learned from that demand and given us explicitly queer stories, the recent attempts have been pretty badly squashed. Elio and Win or Lose could’ve been excellent queer stories but were reduced to subtextual at best (even tho kai still reads as super trans to me but we could’ve had so much moreee)

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