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So we all talk about being in fandoms for things that are charmingly bad, and being able to acknowledge that they’re charmingly bad. But of course some people are in fandoms for things that are Actually Amazing. There are people out there who write fanfiction for The Best Science Fiction Novel Of The Twentieth Century. Or who draw fanart exclusively of The Best Movie of All Time. And there are even more people who are in fandoms for things that are Actually Pretty Good, which is not quite amazing but is closer to it than to Charmingly Bad.

So I understand why the “transformative fandom gathers around things that are not good because there being a problem makes people desire to fix it” model is popular. I even agree that it’s accurate in many if not most cases. However it is not what this post is about. Plenty of people do transformative and creative fandom activities for things that are very, very good. Simplified models do not encompass everything.

one of the ways a Canon work can be fandom bait is by missing something that fans want to fix, i.e. "it's bad", but i think this is only one way out of multiple that something can be fandom bait.

Yes this exactly, thank you bless.

Glitch fans when they release a new show with characters with actual sex appeal instead of being stick figures (*cough cough* TADC*cough cough*):

It has just occurred to me that of all the characters in Winnie the Pooh, the only ones that lack both fingerless stuffing hands and faint seam lines (the indications that someone is a stuffed animal) are Rabbit and Owl. Which carries the possible implication that Rabbit and Owl are just a normal rabbit and owl living with a bunch of sentient stuffed animals.

Theyre also the only ones with bushy eyebrows and chest and chin floof, and I dont know if thats relevant but it FEELS relevant! Also someone mentioned Gopher too and OF COURSE, there is absolutely no argument that this whistling little man isn’t just an average (talking) gopher.

You are exactly right! Most of the characters in the stories are based on the real Christopher Robin Milne’s stuffed toys except for Rabbit and Owl who were added for the books and Gopher who is exclusive to the Disney adaptations.

It’s fairly clear in the book illustrations too:

‘Owl,’ said Rabbit shortly, ‘you and I have brains. The others have fluff. If there is any thinking to be done in this Forest – and when I say thinking I mean thinking – you and I must do it.’

This post has been getting a surge of attention and let me tell you that 1) I am really pleased at how kind most of the people who KNEW all this have been in explaining it, and 2) I feel a lot better seeing just how many other people didn’t have any more clue of this than I did XD It’s kinda nice being part of a post thats spreading some fun knowledge in a friendly way!

krillin from dragon ball super is genuinely one of the most courageously unhinged characters in all of anime and i will not be taking criticism

Krillin's been running that equation since the day he was old enough to know he had no nose and would always be shorter than everyone else his age.

Krillin saw the strongest guys he ever knew, the son of the Demon King and the man who killed the Demon King get their shit kicked in multiple times by three different aliens, went to space anyway, found out those three aliens were low-mid tier threats, and still fought.