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do NOT tell me the real daeron had his hair messed with as well. donât tell me that. never tell me that.
alicent says he was sent to oldtown as an infant. i declare that it was due (in part) to his less conventional hightower features and also because heâs the youngest son and so he had very little chance of inheriting anything. NO WHITE HAIR. none.
I'm sorry, but if he were truly a redhead, why would they need to lighten the decoy's hair?
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Something that might be common knowledge in other parts of the fandom but that was new to me:
I was looking at Curufin's Tolkien Gateway page and noticed a line that I hadn't before: when describing the Dagor Bragollach, it noted that "In F.A. 457 Morgoth sent a great force, under the command of his lieutenant Sauron, to capture the tower Minis Tirith, which guarded the Pass of Sirion. The fortress was eventually taken and its lord, Orodreth, was driven out where he would have been slain if not for the intervention of Celegorm and Curufin; they arrived with their riders and other such forces they could gather and fought fiercely, allowing Orodreth to escape and retreat to Nargothrond."
It cites this as being written of in The War of the Jewels in HoME not The Silmarillion, so whether or not you take it as canon is up to you, but I feel like that adds an extra dimension to the later Nargothrond dynamics that's fun to think about.
Actually, there is much more to this that might interest you.
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: III THE QUENTA - Commentary) It is now suggested that Celegorm and Curufin came to Nargothrond after the Battle of Sudden Flame as to a refuge already in being, and with them came Orodreth their friend
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: III THE QUENTA - Commentary) âOrodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor) took the part of FĂ«anorâ (in the debate before the Flight of the Noldoli).
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VI THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF VALINOR) Felagund and the other sons of Finrod (finarfin) went forward also, for they had aforetime great fellowship, Felagund with the sons of Fingolfin, and Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor) with Celegorm and Curufin sons of FĂ«anor.
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VI THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF VALINOR) Added here in ink: with all his folk and no others save Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor), whom Celegorm and Curufin loved
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VI THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF VALINOR - Commentary) The alliances and friendships between the princes of the Noldoli in the third generation have been touched on in S and Q §5, where Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor), sons of Finrod, sided with the Fëanorians in the debate in Tûn before the Flight of the Noldoli; in AV this becomes a friendship especially with Celegorm and Curufin
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VI THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF VALINOR - Commentary) The friendship of Celegorm and Curufin with Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor) just referred to leads to the remarkable development (in the addition given in note 21) that these three sons of Finrod (finarfin) were actually allowed passage in the ships by the Fëanorians, and that only Felagund came over the Helkaraksë with Fingolfin
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VII THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF BELERIAND) Turgon son of Fingolfin is great in friendship with Felagund son of Finrod; but Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor), sons of Finrod, are friends of the sons of FĂ«anor, especially Celegorm and Curufin.
(The Lost Road and Other WritingsChapter: PART TWO VALINOR AND MIDDLE-EARTH BEFORE THE LORD OF THE RINGS - II THE LATER ANNALS OF VALINOR) FĂ«anor and his folk seized all the ships and sailed east across the sea, and they took none of the other companies save Orodreth,10 Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor), whom Celegorm and Curufin loved
(The Lost Road and Other WritingsChapter: PART TWO VALINOR AND MIDDLE-EARTH BEFORE THE LORD OF THE RINGS - III THE LATER ANNALS OF BELERIAND) Angrod and Egnor, and Orodreth was nighest to the sons of FĂ«anor
There is also a version in which they help burn the ships
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VII THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF BELERIAND) The Gnomes of the eldest house, the Dispossessed, come into the North under FĂ«anor and his seven sons, with their friends Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (aegnor), sons of Finrod (finarfin). They burn the Telerian ships
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VII THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF BELERIAND) FĂ«anor and his seven sons, with their friends Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (aegnor), sons of Finrod. They burned the Telerian ships
Something that might be common knowledge in other parts of the fandom but that was new to me:
I was looking at Curufin's Tolkien Gateway page and noticed a line that I hadn't before: when describing the Dagor Bragollach, it noted that "In F.A. 457 Morgoth sent a great force, under the command of his lieutenant Sauron, to capture the tower Minis Tirith, which guarded the Pass of Sirion. The fortress was eventually taken and its lord, Orodreth, was driven out where he would have been slain if not for the intervention of Celegorm and Curufin; they arrived with their riders and other such forces they could gather and fought fiercely, allowing Orodreth to escape and retreat to Nargothrond."
It cites this as being written of in The War of the Jewels in HoME not The Silmarillion, so whether or not you take it as canon is up to you, but I feel like that adds an extra dimension to the later Nargothrond dynamics that's fun to think about.
Actually, there is much more to this that might interest you.
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: III THE QUENTA - Commentary) It is now suggested that Celegorm and Curufin came to Nargothrond after the Battle of Sudden Flame as to a refuge already in being, and with them came Orodreth their friend
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: III THE QUENTA - Commentary) âOrodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor) took the part of FĂ«anorâ (in the debate before the Flight of the Noldoli).
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VI THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF VALINOR) Felagund and the other sons of Finrod (finarfin) went forward also, for they had aforetime great fellowship, Felagund with the sons of Fingolfin, and Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor) with Celegorm and Curufin sons of FĂ«anor.
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VI THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF VALINOR) Added here in ink: with all his folk and no others save Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor), whom Celegorm and Curufin loved
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VI THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF VALINOR - Commentary) The alliances and friendships between the princes of the Noldoli in the third generation have been touched on in S and Q §5, where Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor), sons of Finrod, sided with the Fëanorians in the debate in Tûn before the Flight of the Noldoli; in AV this becomes a friendship especially with Celegorm and Curufin
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VI THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF VALINOR - Commentary) The friendship of Celegorm and Curufin with Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor) just referred to leads to the remarkable development (in the addition given in note 21) that these three sons of Finrod (finarfin) were actually allowed passage in the ships by the Fëanorians, and that only Felagund came over the Helkaraksë with Fingolfin
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VII THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF BELERIAND) Turgon son of Fingolfin is great in friendship with Felagund son of Finrod; but Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor), sons of Finrod, are friends of the sons of FĂ«anor, especially Celegorm and Curufin.
(The Lost Road and Other WritingsChapter: PART TWO VALINOR AND MIDDLE-EARTH BEFORE THE LORD OF THE RINGS - II THE LATER ANNALS OF VALINOR) FĂ«anor and his folk seized all the ships and sailed east across the sea, and they took none of the other companies save Orodreth,10 Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor), whom Celegorm and Curufin loved
(The Lost Road and Other WritingsChapter: PART TWO VALINOR AND MIDDLE-EARTH BEFORE THE LORD OF THE RINGS - III THE LATER ANNALS OF BELERIAND) Angrod and Egnor, and Orodreth was nighest to the sons of FĂ«anor
Itâs a really compelling dynamicâone I havenât been able to let go of since I first discovered it. It creates a conflict of interest for Orodreth, who has to watch the old friendship he once valued above his bond with Finrod fall apart, all while being powerless to stop it. It adds depth to Angrod and Aegnorâs characters, tooâespecially given the tension surrounding the fact that the three of them sided with FĂ«anor during the debate, effectively abandoning their other brothers to follow him. Itâs such a rich scenario that breeds real resentment among them.
Something that might be common knowledge in other parts of the fandom but that was new to me:
I was looking at Curufin's Tolkien Gateway page and noticed a line that I hadn't before: when describing the Dagor Bragollach, it noted that "In F.A. 457 Morgoth sent a great force, under the command of his lieutenant Sauron, to capture the tower Minis Tirith, which guarded the Pass of Sirion. The fortress was eventually taken and its lord, Orodreth, was driven out where he would have been slain if not for the intervention of Celegorm and Curufin; they arrived with their riders and other such forces they could gather and fought fiercely, allowing Orodreth to escape and retreat to Nargothrond."
It cites this as being written of in The War of the Jewels in HoME not The Silmarillion, so whether or not you take it as canon is up to you, but I feel like that adds an extra dimension to the later Nargothrond dynamics that's fun to think about.
Actually, there is much more to this that might interest you.
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: III THE QUENTA - Commentary) It is now suggested that Celegorm and Curufin came to Nargothrond after the Battle of Sudden Flame as to a refuge already in being, and with them came Orodreth their friend
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: III THE QUENTA - Commentary) âOrodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor) took the part of FĂ«anorâ (in the debate before the Flight of the Noldoli).
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VI THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF VALINOR) Felagund and the other sons of Finrod (finarfin) went forward also, for they had aforetime great fellowship, Felagund with the sons of Fingolfin, and Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor) with Celegorm and Curufin sons of FĂ«anor.
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VI THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF VALINOR) Added here in ink: with all his folk and no others save Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor), whom Celegorm and Curufin loved
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VI THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF VALINOR - Commentary) The alliances and friendships between the princes of the Noldoli in the third generation have been touched on in S and Q §5, where Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor), sons of Finrod, sided with the Fëanorians in the debate in Tûn before the Flight of the Noldoli; in AV this becomes a friendship especially with Celegorm and Curufin
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VI THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF VALINOR - Commentary) The friendship of Celegorm and Curufin with Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor) just referred to leads to the remarkable development (in the addition given in note 21) that these three sons of Finrod (finarfin) were actually allowed passage in the ships by the Fëanorians, and that only Felagund came over the Helkaraksë with Fingolfin
(The Shaping of Middle-earthChapter: VII THE EARLIEST ANNALS OF BELERIAND) Turgon son of Fingolfin is great in friendship with Felagund son of Finrod; but Orodreth, Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor), sons of Finrod, are friends of the sons of FĂ«anor, especially Celegorm and Curufin.
(The Lost Road and Other WritingsChapter: PART TWO VALINOR AND MIDDLE-EARTH BEFORE THE LORD OF THE RINGS - II THE LATER ANNALS OF VALINOR) FĂ«anor and his folk seized all the ships and sailed east across the sea, and they took none of the other companies save Orodreth,10 Angrod, and Egnor (Aegnor), whom Celegorm and Curufin loved
(The Lost Road and Other WritingsChapter: PART TWO VALINOR AND MIDDLE-EARTH BEFORE THE LORD OF THE RINGS - III THE LATER ANNALS OF BELERIAND) Angrod and Egnor, and Orodreth was nighest to the sons of FĂ«anor
jdslkg sorry, yeah I get you! thanks! hereâs the boys having a bang-up time
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jdslkg sorry, yeah I get you! thanks! hereâs the boys having a bang-up time
Thinking about Maedhros and Helen of Troy, and just - their stories are so different itâd be hard to make a fusion AU work and yet theyâre so very alike?? The beauty, the imprisonment, the anger at the gods, the sense of crushing guilt and responsibility for things you are not strong enough to change. The heaviness of Fate on your shoulders. Youâre not the (sole) enactor of this tragedy but you are its focal point and its symbol. Your role in the story is Who You Are and yet it is antithetical to you; to hate it is to hate yourself, and you would not be yourself if you did not hate it.
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the concept of aegon and aemon hiding out in daeron's room whenever aerion weirds them out tm is canon to me btw
There's a fanfic about this and it's the cutest thing i've ever readđđ
Fanfic link please
