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While the State exists, there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no State.
Lenin
“There is a flagrant contradiction in this theory. If their State would be really of the people, why eliminate it? And if the State is needed to emancipate the workers, then the workers are not yet free, so why call it a ‘People’s State’? By our polemic against them we have brought them to the realization that freedom or anarchism, which means a free organization of the working masses from the bottom up, is the final objective of social development, and that every state, not excepting their People’s State, is a yoke, on the one hand giving rise to despotism and on the other to slavery.” —A Better Theorist
unfortunately, mikhail bettertheoristin totally misapprehended the theory of the state as developed by marx & engels--in ways that are directly addressed by lenin in state and revolution multiple times.
chiefly, neither marx nor engels (nor lenin!) ever put forward the idea of a "people's state"--the Marxist understanding of the state is as a social institution for the suppression of one class for another, and on this ground engels criticized the specific phrase "people's state" among his criticisms of the gotha programme:
As the state is only a transitional institution which is used in the struggle, in the revolution, to hold down one's adversaries by force, it is sheer nonsense to talk of a 'free people's state'; so long as the proletariat still needs the state, it does not need it in the interests of freedom but in order to hold down its adversaries, and as soon as it becomes possible to speak of freedom the state as such ceases to exist.
the proletarian class state does not provide anybody any freedom, and it's never been the claim of marx, engels, or lenin that it does. they are all in agreement with the anarchists that a state is fundamentally a “special coercive force” (engels again, in anti-duhring).
the point of disagreement is that the anarchist point of view of the state as a static self-referential object, of power as an abstracted force, is lacking in class analysis. the current (bourgeois) state does not exert power for an abstract 'minority', or for 'itself', but on behalf of the bourgeoisie against the proletariat. the marxist dictatorship of the proletariat is therefore not (and never claimed to be!) a people's state, but a proletarian state--an institution for the oppression of the bourgeoisie.
any serious marxist therefore agrees that the workers are not in fact 'free' under the proletarian class state, because 'freedom' is found only in the abolition of classes--'freedom' is classless society, which can only be achieved by the suppression and proletarianization of the dominant class! the state is a weapon of class struggle, and as long as that class struggle is ongoing, somebody is going to forge that weapon and bring it to bear.
and sure, you can criticize all of that in theory or in practice. but it is a very silly response to marx and marxism (as bakunin was writing in response to) or to lenin and leninism (as, presumably, you're quoting him in reference to as a response to anon) to point out that the state is not and cannot be 'free' or 'the people's', when that's kinda a basic tenet of revolutionary marxism
As a matter of friendly debate, your analysis isn't quite correct.
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Bakunin didn't “misapprehend” “Marx & Engels” theory of the State, totally or otherwise; I put to question the very assertion that they even had one. See, that's happening here is that you're committing an error that Lenin did: you're treating Marx and Engels as one single theorist, that what is said by one must be held by the other ——one particularly funny example is actually in State and Revolution: ch. 1.4. The “Withering Away” of the State and Violent Revolution where, after citing Engels and only Engels for this section, after the first quote dealing with said “withering away”, Lenin follows it up with “According to Marx” to then explain . . . Engels—— when this is very much not the case and MEGA project has in fact shown how much Engels did not know what Marx was working on, particularly towards the end of the latter's life, and how much editing he'd done to Marx' works which really says more about Engels' misunderstandings than Marx' theory.
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Setting that aside for now, it gets even messier when getting back on topic of Bakunin “misapprehended” anything in a way that matters to this conversation: it is true, Bakunin very much did not understand Marx, particularly wrt to the State —but that wasn't my point here either.
As I've said before, Bakunin is a better critic of Marxists than of Marx proper. Bakunin was, afterall, really only attacking LaSalle's conception of the State as a vehicle to socialism, and attributing LaSalle's programme to LaSalle's greatest influence, Marx, thereby (wrongly) accusing Marx of holding the same view, and, hence, the quote above. LaSalle, you will recognize, as having been criticized by Marx himself prior to the former student's death, particularly in the Gothakritik.
Gothakritik, let us not forget, was first published in 1891, Anti-Dürhing in 1878, and Socialism: Utopian and Scientific in 1880, the last two are of which Lenin grabs from most.
—Bakunin died in 1876.
It can hardly be said that he, even maliciously, misunderstood “Marx & Engels”.
But let's take a closer look at the one Marx actually wrote: Gothakritik.
I've written on the subject of this one extremely short but relevant ouvre, both in annotatiting and in explaining the relevant parts, but here let me explain:
“We reach a conundrum, if Marx is so deeply opposed to the State, why does he say that it forms a transitional period? Here is where the Marxists get stuck, and because they get stuck they think others can't surpass them. They think their own limitations universal and so we must show them the way through.
First, consider that at no point does Marx actually say that the State is the Dictatorship of the Proletariat! Second, that it makes no sense if he did!
Think, what makes more sense, with everything we have gone over and learned:
That somehow Marx (who, as we've pointed out, considers using the State as ‘narrow-minded’ and Socialism that does as ‘not even skin-deep’) makes an exception for the proletariat (despite just having stated that the answer does not lie in the ‘thousand-fold combination of the word 'people' with the word 'State'.’)?
Or that Marx considers the State and the Dictatorship of the Proletariat to be two distinct things, of [a] different quality, and by no means synonymous?
Voilà!
Thus stated there can be no doubt of which position is correct because only the one is consistent; the latter one!”
Here is, truly, where we butt heads, for you bringing up the quote, “As the State is only a transitional phase . . .” and the rest of it is only, for me, an imposition, a necessary extrapolation for those that wish to resuscitate the State in an other —ultimately counter-revolutionary— fashion.
Either you're right, and Engels understood Marx 100% despite MEGA showing how much he didn't and instead published “finished” or “correct” editions of Marx' till then unpublished works; or I'm right, and Marx and Engels are two distinct people, both working towards a better understand of their capitalist situation which Bakunin misunderstood as same and only, from which we can now lock out better and grow as as socialists.
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This of course, puts it on me to then try to make sense as to what Marx meant in the Gothakritik.
What about Higher- and Lower- Phase “Communism”?
I've answered this before. I'll do so again, “Lower-Phase” refers to Anarcho-Collectivism; “Higher-Phase” to Anarcho-Communism.
This is, in my opinion, truly the rift that started the miscommunication between Bakunin and Marx; it's not a misunderstanding of what the State's role would be (though both did misunderstand it to a degree) but rather what the revolutionary goal would be. You can read in Marx' Conspectus on Statism and Anarchy him doing just that, and even chastising Bakunin for thinking he (Marx) thought the State as any different. Is it any surprise then that Dolgoff says:
Bakunin did not "‘deliberately fabricate’ the accusation that Marx believed in the ‘People's State’. Bakunin criticized Marx for this in 1870 and 1872. He could not be expected to forcee that Marx would condemn the ‘People's State’ THREE YEARS LATER in 1875 in his Critique of the Gotha Program. The Critique was published AFTER Bakunin's death about a year later. But this error does not invalidate Bakunin's prophetic indictment of the ‘Workers' State’ which Marx and Co. DID champion. The assertion that the Marx and Engels ‘...position is spelled out most extensively in Marx's Civil War in France is in flagrant contradiction to everything Marx and Engels wrote before and after the Paris Commune. To establish this extremely important point, I quoted Franz Mehring, Marx's disciple and authorized biographer in my Bakunin on Anarchy. I strongly suspect that Diemer ignored this quote because it decisively refutes his argument. Here it is: “..The opinions of the Communist Manifesto could not be reconciled with the praise lavished by The Civil War in France for the vigorous fashion in which began to exterminate the parasitic State ...Both Marx and Engels were well aware of the contradiction, and in a preface to a new edition of The Communist Manifesto issued in June 1872 they revised their opinions... after the death of Marx, Engels in fighting the anarchists once again took his stand on the original basis of the Manifesto... if an insurrection was able to abolish the whole oppressive machinery of the State by a few simple decrees, was that not a confirmation of Bakunin's steadfastly maintained standpoint? (Karl Marx, pp. 452-3)...”
—“Bakunin vs. Marx” (1979)
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Of course, this has all been a history lesson to teach that Bakunin did, in fact, misunderstand Marx, but, implicitly, that he foresaw something Marx didn't: Marxists.
Afterall, in this context, i can hardly ignore the “je-suis pas un marxist” tradition.
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Please don't hesitate to ask me anything else you can think of asking me, afterall, while you were concerned with delineating an assumed Marx(& Engels) conception, hereby criticized by Bakunin, I was instead dealing with a critique Bakunin could only work against Marxist positions but not Marx himself.
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