Transfeminized = someone who has been treated as transfem (regardless of whether they are or not), particularly in an oppressive manner; people who suffer from transmisogyny, regardless of whether they consider themselves transfem.

A few examples:

-Transfems. -Intersex or otherwise varsex people who are perceived as transfem (regardless of if they are or not.) -Some gender non-conforming men. -Non-transfem non-binary people (especially if they have been raised male), who are viewed as transfem due to people only ever sorting enben into "transfem" and "transmasc" categories. -Black or brown pericis women who are accused of transfemininity due to eurocentric beauty standards masculinizing black/brown traits. -East Asian men who are accused of transfemininity due to eurocentric beauty standards feminizing East Asian traits.

Transmasculinized = someone who has been treated as transmasc (regardless of whether they are or not), particularly in an oppressive manner; people who suffer from transandrophobia, regardless of whether they consider themselves transmasc.

Some examples:

-Transmascs. -Intersex or otherwise varsex people who are perceived as transmasc (regardless of if they are or not.) -Some gender non-conforming women. -Non-transmasc non-binary people (especially if they have been raised female), who are viewed as transfem due to people only ever sorting enben into "transfem" and "transmasc" categories. -Black or brown pericis women who are accused of transmasculinity due to eurocentric beauty standards masculinizing black/brown traits. -East Asian pericis men who are accused of transmasculinity due to eurocentric beauty standards feminizing East Asian traits.

How to use these terms in a sentence:

"An experience of transfeminization I had was..." "People who have been transfeminized/people who have been transmasculinized" "I have been transmasculinized in the past."

I think that non-tfzd trans people are more likely to hold transmisogynistic biases and views (because living in a bigoted society does that) but definitely not to the extent of cis people. And trans people don't really hold gendered institutional power over each other.

I'm intersex and don't really understand the terms, it appears I am not 'tme' by my experiences, but I'm far from being a trans woman.

I can't figure out what you've said or done to be 'avoided', either..

Overall I'm very confused. I only just entered queer discourse, but I've heard horror stories.

If you're ok with it, it would help to know your perspective on why they might have said this - i.e. is this something people have said to you?

I'm looking through tags revolving around these debates and it seems pretty... violent and accusatory 🙂

People accuse us of being anti transfem because we think TME/TMA has been bastardized to the point of being useless, and because we believe marginalized men exist.

You can read our posts on the matter here:

1 [link] (About TMA/TME.)

2 [link] (Also about TMA/TME.)

3 [link] (About marginalized men, in case its not clear what we mean by that.)

4 [link] (Bonus discussion about transandrophobia, since transandrophobes are often the ones who get violent about discussions of TMA/TME, and claim transmascs are "less oppressed" than transfems are.)

We are not anti-transfem, we just acknowledge that TMA/TME has been so severely co-opted by transandrophobes, exorsexists, and intersexists that they have bastardized the terms beyond belief, and apply it to people without their consent.

Basically, TMA/TME are being used to tell people they are "not affected by transmisogyny unless they are transfem", even when thats so blatantly not the case for many people.

They are also being put into bios as if they are some sort of identity, like you have to declare how you've been oppressed before? Which like. So should we put in our bios if we've been affected by ableism, racism, fatphobia, etc? Should we declare every negative experience we've ever had? No, it's silly. TMA/TME should not have been made into identities.

We think terms like transfeminized, transmasculinized, cisfeminized, cismasculinized, degendered, etc are better.

Transfeminized & transmasculinized [link]. Cisfeminized and cismasculinized are basically the same thing, but enforced on non-binary people or intersex trans people who have been wrongfully enforced as cisgender.

saying that korean men are ‘feminine’ simply because the fact that they take care of themselves is crazy to me. like? do men need to look ungroomed in order to be considered ‘masculine’?

what are their features? I feel that some people think their (nautrally born features, mind you) are ‘feminine’ and use it as an insult against their ‘masculinity’

This is androracism.

The way that people feminize East Asian features and masculinize black & brown features will never fail to disgust me.

No, that Korean person isn't feminine just because they have different routines and features than Western white people do. You just have a very eurocentric idea of masculinity, and don't respect other races and cultures.

I cannot financially as I am also struggling in that area rn, but I want to offer up something else! I'll take submissions early, but send in traits you are dysphoric about and I will make trans art with it!

I know it may not help everyone, but when I am dysphoric I create art of people that look like me and my mind will naturally see the character as themselves and that almost fools my brain into a faux sense of rep that makes me feel better about myself..

If this doesn't help you thats fine, I will be posting all of these on an alt blog @transfem-central as to not clutter this one that I SWEAR I will be more active on soon!

UHmmm and if you do put in a submission be as specific as possible! [lest I go wild with artistic freedom] (doesnt have to just be a character or a human or a furry or a idk whatever u want its up to you] This will probably be through photo bashing or something similar but I do not mind other media forms! Really it's up to yall..

This will begin posting in June! and go throughout the month!

Uhmm and if this flops I will have enough time to do something else too idk. itll either be fun or not happen at all im sure