Okay but what would your Ody be like if he had been reincarnated into modern times, instead of living as a cursed immortal?
i have a modernverse ody! he's relatively normal, just chalked full of more modern references
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Okay but what would your Ody be like if he had been reincarnated into modern times, instead of living as a cursed immortal?
i have a modernverse ody! he's relatively normal, just chalked full of more modern references

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We Elriels are Elriels because of Elain. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
We want her with WHOEVER SHE CHOSES.
We don't fear the outcome. We fear a story where Elain's voice doesn't matter. Where she's reduced to a plot device or a bond she never asked for. WE WANT IT TO BE ABOUT HER CHOICE. HER AGENCY. And if Sarah decides to write Elucien as endgame, most Elriels will be cheering and supporting Elain on. Cause our girl can do no wrong. In the end, its her choice to make. And that's what Elriel's stand for: ELAIN'S CHOICE NO MATTER WHAT. I can't say the same thing about the other side though, cause let's say Elriel is confirmed as endgame. What will happen? More hate to Elain's character. And that’s the difference. Elriels will defend Elain — even if the story doesn't end up going our way. Others only seem to support her when she fits their narrative.
the problem is. we start talking about the cold war (and ur like, do we??? who was talking about the cold war??) and everyone's all, clearly it was the soviets' fault they're an expansionist state imposing their power on unwilling people. and like. yes. they were. of course. but i fear, so was/is america. like sorry look at cuba? look at korea? also mccarthyism within america itself. u cannot be anticapitalist and friends with america. and i understand that the soviets imposed their ideology more aggressively and puritanically but like. in the end i fear. both superpowers were doing the same thing. and only one country has ever used a nuclear bomb and it was not the soviets IM JUST SAYING.
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People are really like "Squid Game did this bad, them portraying this thing how they did in the show means the writer is bigoted" when that's literally on purpose??? Hwang Dong-hyuk isn't "misogynistic and you can see it in his writing", he writes characters in a world that is misogynistic. Sang-woo didn't say that he doesn't want women in his team because Hwang Dong-hyuk hates women. He said that because Sang-woo grew up in a misogynistic world and adopted those worldviews. That's also proven because all of Squid Game's female characters are strong characters with determination and motivations and a personality that doesn't fall into the useless woman that needs to be saved trope. In fact. Jun-hee specifically doesn't want to be saved at all! Myung-gi tries to team up with her and help her so many times and most of those times she rejects him. How is that misogynistic writing? You can't tell me the woman who killed her abuser or the woman who fled a very controlling country to save herself and her brother or the trans woman who is so strong and competent or the religious woman who is able to easily build a following is misogynistic writing. They die sooner than a lot of the men because a lot of the Men in this show don't care about women. That's not misogynistic writing, that is writing that correctly portrays the misogyny of our everyday world. If you can't differentiate between the two then I don't know either
Also because some people say female characters or specifically Jun-hee are just plot devices: Every character in a story is a plot device. Every character serves a purpose for the story, that's actually really important for a story because why else would a character be there if they are completely useless to the story? The thing is though that a character that is a plot device turns into a character that is an actual person when you give them a personality and characteristics outside of their purpose for the plot. And every character in Squid Game has that!!
(That is also what I mean when I say that Squid Game portrays a realistic world)
You’re judging everything strictly by your own standards; sometimes it feels like objectivity doesn’t even matter here. For you, for instance, the ultimate red line is sexual violence—something that can’t be understood or justified (and I’m 100% with you on that). But the thing is, for others, that red line might be drawn somewhere else entirely, and their 'moral leash' might be way shorter than yours, so to speak.
Can you really call someone a 'good person' if, say, they’re a doctor who has saved countless lives, but at the same time, they’re a massive sexist and a blatant racist who thinks women are solely to blame for their own assaults? Keep in mind, he’s never actually harassed anyone himself, and he doesn’t go around shouting slurs in people's faces. He doesn't ask for medals for his work, and he couldn't care less about being thanked—he just does what he’s paid for, or maybe he’s just genuinely invested in the craft.
For some people, the red line is a teacher who comments on their students' appearance or intelligence—someone who is basically abusive and bullies a student (like Harry). Yeah, sure, he’s a hero, but even taking that into account, some people will never see him as a 'good man' because a few good deeds or words don't just magically erase the shitty ones.
Does that mean a person is just being a sheltered kid who needs to grow up and see the world through the eyes of a cynic?
Your comparison doesn’t hold up, and the issue here isn’t a lack of objectivity it’s that you’re lumping together things that are not morally equivalent and don’t operate on the same level.
A teacher with a bad attitude, inappropriate comments, or even abusive behaviour in a classroom is criticisable and can be harmful, yes. But that belongs to one axis: everyday interpersonal misconduct. A man who blames women for sexual assault operates on a completely different level: he is symbolically justifying a structural form of violence against an entire group. It’s not just “having a bad opinion” or “being unpleasant” it reproduces a logic that has historically been used to excuse perpetrators and discredit victims. You’re trying to measure “being a good person” like it’s an Excel sheet where good deeds cancel out harmful beliefs. Moral judgment doesn’t work like that.
A doctor can save thousands of lives and still be a deeply prejudiced person. That doesn’t “erase” or “cancel out” their prejudice. But it also doesn’t automatically make them a monster. It simply shows that moral evaluation is not binary, but contextual: you can acknowledge the positive impact of someone’s actions without endorsing their worldview as morally acceptable.
As for your example with the Snape/Harry: finding a rude or harsh teacher more morally “unforgivable” than someone who blames victims of sexual violence is not a matter of “cynicism vs maturity.” It’s a question of moral priorities that are, frankly, quite questionable. One is individual misconduct in a specific setting; the other is a belief that contributes to the dehumanisation of victims on a systemic level.
So no, this isn’t about people being “too sensitive” or “too cynical.” It’s about you comparing things that aren’t comparable in order to sustain an overly simplified idea of what makes someone a “good person.”
And honestly, if your moral red line puts a rude teacher above someone who minimises or blames victims of rape, it’s not about needing to “grow into cynicism” it’s more that the framework you’re using to judge morality might need some serious rethinking.

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I find it endlessly hilarious when antis say shit like "I don't understand the difference between liking a fictional minor vs. liking a real minor" 'cause what that basically means is "I can't tell the difference between Timmy Turner from Fairly Odd Parents and my 10-year-old nephew" lmao
Bud, the difference is one is lines on a screen and the other is a flesh and blood living, breathing human being with a functional brain and feelings, and it's actually fucking wild that you need the difference explained to you.
As someone who's passionate about indie art in all its forms, something I think we gotta remember when it comes to media discussion is: some people are just casual fans.
That's not to say they don't genuinely like [insert medium/genre here]. They do! It's just...
If they're a reader, they're content picking up an intriguing paper back at the airport on the way to their beach vacation but otherwise don't read a lot. For movies, every few months they might catch whatever is the buzzy blockbuster with their mates. For music, it's whatever top billboard hits is playing on their algorithmic Spotify Playlist or local radio station. For video games, it's that they hop into Fortnight a few times a week to hang with their friends over VC. Whether due to a lack of time or genuine deeper passion, they're generally not going to dig much deeper into the medium than that. And that's fine!
If you're passionate about your medium/genre, it can be frustrating! "There's so much more cool stuff if everyone would just—"
Everyone won't Just. They're casual fans, and by nature, they'll generally just grab what's readily at hand and has good word of mouth. That's why it's important for the Passionate Weirdos among us to helpfully push more diverse voices and interesting pieces into the mainstream. But expecting the casual fans to swim out of the mainstream to find that stuff themselves is like expecting a dog to turn into a cat.
All that said. If you are on of those Passionate Art Weirdos— someone for whom [medium/genre] is one if your main hobbies and interests, and especially if you want to be taken seriously as a Voice within that creative space— Well, I'll raise my eyebrows if it turns out your experience with it begins and ends with only the top 3-5 most popular contemporary works/artists it has on offer.