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Some more Upaya doodles! She just comforting Paramita and showing her love to their newest little brother Xiaotian.

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Dong Yue is such a troll because from the wiki I got this
At the end of the novel, the author lists twelve hypothetical questions that a reader might ask and answers them. Some of the answers are very similar in nature and, sometimes, contradictory.
The eighth asks how it's possible for Monkey to have a wife and children. He states that the book is simply a dream.
Since the Supplement is about Wukong’s desires, it would be funny if Wukong subconsciously thought Princess Iron Fan was pretty and that Demon Bull King didn’t deserve her (therefore uncle) and that she’d make a good mom for his 5 sons that he also apparently desired? Wukong desiring Tang to be a warlord though XD
Anyway bad timeline where everyone is OOC because it’s a fever dream sounds crazy awesome I wish I could read it.
Sometimes people are all about allegories, and nothing about substance! Which nothing wrong as long as it is entertaining. I do like how he anticipated the question because he knew himself, but he didn't explain them well enough. Also that Red Boy also doesn't exist in the book as it was said that these were Princess Iron Fan's first kids so its like Wukong willed Red Boy from ever existing as well! THAT IS FUNNY! He wanted a big family and no annoying nephew! Nooooo!
But you can read it actually it’s in English!
Here’s a link!
200 p. ; 21 cm
You are going to make a profile but still. Even comes with audio options if you want it out loud.
Have fun with the crazy fever dream!
While I will admit it is absolutely insane. I myself hope one day to have a script of how to make it into something of substance because I think there is a lot to work with. Time travel and inter-dimensional transportation aren't anything new but to know that this was one of the first 'time travel' books out there is pretty fun! It’s somewhere between a dream and a nightmare, where the dreams become so intense that they just go overboard. I feel like nowadays a lot could be played with, especially with how to look into what Wukong really wants and what he is willing to do to take it when in the middle of his journey. Like to measure himself mentally where he has changed from being willing to do anything in his power to get what he wants verse actually seeing the consequences of his desire affecting those around him that he has grown to care about and how their lives are ruined as well.
Sanzang becoming a general probably is too farfetched but the idea is that he becoming controlled by a Evil King because Wukong left and Sanzang lost his way. Now THAT can be interesting. Bajie tries to go back to Gao but as expected by rejected and thus he also joins the Evil Army. THAT is a cool take. Wujing being lost in all this and going back to hire hermit lifestyle, THAT IS SAD. BaiLong been forever, forgotten by his family and force the roam the Earth has a horse. THAT IS ALSO SO SAD. I don't know why people look any further for angst when if this story could be put in a more cohesive manner without the loose plot point or useless quests could be an interesting introspective of Wukong's desires have how they have changed from what he thought he wants versus what he wants now.
I do feel like a lot of the takes are more out of character but that is what makes it kind of scary and a bad timeline way. To think that because you (Wukong) can push people to new means. Maybe Wukong just wanted a big family before and missed his monkey, projecting that onto Princess Iron Fan who is deprived of both a son and husband and he understood that missing family. And maybe he feels responsible for both Bajie and Wujing on his journey to keep them together else they lose their ways and just go back to being forgotten criminals of heaven, nothing better than canon fodder. And his greatest fear of Sanzang losing his way... and becoming more like him. Choosing violence as the real answer to his problems, similar to Wukong. Any little desire he wished for Sanzang to be "more like him" taken to the extreme of him being a general sending out armies.
And it's that image of King Paramita, his desire for a family verse General Sanzang, his desire for Sanzang to be stronger (or rather just a little bit crueler to their enemies) being forced to confront each other in the climax!
Like I said there are a lot of wishy-washy side quests in the middle that really lead nowhere and are more of a commentary of the times and certain historical figures but there CAN be a lot of interesting plot points that could be SO MUCH FUN to play with! Wukong is always some of the first to say that he is a monk that left the family but maybe he still has that desire to be more than a grandpa to his monkeys and he a family man, but is that worth the cost of the friends he made along the way? I like to think that a lot of dreams are more his distorted desires which is what a lot of the book is. He even meets himself in a human form in the book which helps him out of his red strong of desire to help see reason.
It is only at the end when he sees the son he never knew kill Sanzang does he lose his mind, going into his giant form as he tries to destroy everything around him in a second.
But he can't.
Because he finally starts to wake up.
And when he sees that Fake Fish coming in as their "new" fellow disciples.
Man does NOT hesitate to snap his neck for messing with his dreams like that.
Have to admit that is definitely one way to end a story! But why anyone that is interested I definitely recommend it a read if anyone has the time!
Sun Upaya!
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This is Upaya, the second born, out of the five Supplement children. I based her off highly on the Havoc in Heaven 1961 Wukong in her design, being very kind to children but also being highly saturated in Peking Opera aesthetic.
Upaya is water-based with her colors being blue and black. I based her crybaby tendencies off Wujing from the 1996 series though physically she looks the most like Princess Iron Fan with dark silky black fur she keeps in a bun on her head for the most part. She is more of a healer than a fighter, taking great pleasure in making songs and music in her free time rather than training for battle. But she does have a great appreciation for the arts and cultivation, having great power just never wishing to abuse it.
As a child, she loved her Uncle Wujing the most and wanted to be as pretty as he is! While she is very shy as a child she does grow into herself to be very confident in her abilities. She is very emotional as she cries a lot out of happiness, fear, confusion, or sadness. Rarely gets angry. Almost never but when she does, you can see more of her father in her.
As an adult, she's a very dramatic girl who loves the limelight and being center stage but while she can come off as vain she's just very confident in herself. She is always cheering people and can still be insecure about their place in her family as she knows she is not the strongest power-wise or the smartest and doesn't feel like she's helping enough. Kinda pushes her to try to make it up for being the kindest.
I made a fanfic about the non-canon kids for Supplement JTTW, JTTS, and PJTTW!
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I do wanna say that I started the chapters with Wukong being mostly inspired by 1996 Xiyouji dynamics and who Wukong is mostly based on. The first chapters are about Paramita and the four unnamed kids in Supplement! All named after paramitas in buddism.
I try to base each kid off one of Wukong's inspirations in media! I hope y'all enjoy!
I'm not the best artist but I did have fun trying to draw them
Pink - Jnana, fifth born
Red - Paramita, first born
Yellow - Bala, fourth born
Green - Pranidhana, thrid born
Blue - Upaya - second born
Some Upaya doodles that I'm very proud of!

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Made this to show how the quintuplets' power dynamics work! The Supplement children are based on the Five Chinese Elements, both in their designs and their powers.
Generating cycle (相生 xiāngshēng) is:
Wood feeds Fire
Fire produces Earth (ash, lava)
Earth bears Metal (geological processes produce minerals)
Metal collects Water (water vapor condenses on metal)
Water nourishes Wood (Water flowers, plants and other changes in forest)
Weakening cycle (相洩/相泄 xiāngxiè) is:
Wood depletes Water
Water rusts Metal
Metal impoverishes Earth (erosion, destructive mining of minerals)
Earth smothers Fire
Fire burns Wood (forest fires)
Destructive cycle (相克 xiāngkè) or Overacting cycle (相乘 xiāngchéng) is:
Wood grasps or stabilizes or depletes Earth (roots of trees can prevent soil erosion/depletion of nutrients in soil, over-farming, over-cultivation)
Earth contains or directs or obstructs Water (dams or river banks/over-damming)
Water dampens or regulates or extinguishes Fire
Fire melts or refines or shapes Metal (affecting its integrity)
Metal chops or carves Wood (makes it rigid to easily snap)
Counteracting cycle (相侮 xiāngwǔ or 相耗 xiānghào) is:
Wood dulls Metal
Metal de-energizes Fire (conducting heat away)
Fire evaporates Water
Water muddies or destabilizes Earth
Earth rots Wood (buried wood rots)
SUN PARAMITA!!
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I made Paramita, the first born, off Hero is Back 2015 Wukong. I thought that HiB Wukong gave off great Big Brother vibes.
Paramita is based off (fire) and (fire) when it comes to the 5 elements and the 8 trigrams. He is Red and I've made him to look nearly identical to Wukong. He has a deep Copper fur but he has a long wavy main that reaches beyond his waist. He's a BUFF dude, and is def the warrior of the family. He takes his whole as being the first prince very seriously and considers himself the most responsible of his siblings, taking on the most royal duties so that his younger sibs could enjoy themselves.
As a young kid he really looked up to his father and still does but he does come off as a ruler follower and a bit more intense than needed. He wanted to grow up to be just like Wukong even when he wasn't sure what that included. He puts his dad on a pedestal which strains their relationship as he wants to be like his dad but also resets how he is never going to be his own individual person but always "the monkey king's son." And what makes it worse he feels guilty for his resentment because he loves his dad and his dad loves him so he chooses to never talk about his feelings and just buries them until perhaps a very emotional confrontation.
He has a self-sacrificing nature that he feels he has to be perfect for the family. As the oldest (despite them all being the same age) he felt he needed to be the responsible one and therefore took on his training in combat the most seriously. He tries desperately to give all a laid-back attitude to imitate his dad but honestly, he is an anxious mess one minor inconvenience away from a breakdown.
He's a sweet boy that is too mature for his age and grew up too fast. Wukong worries about him a lot as he wants his boy to feel comfortable to be himself. Also he looks up to Shancai a lot because while his siblings see Paramita as the oldest, Paramita sees Red Boy as his own big sibling that he can rely on.
Nature - Fire, Glow 火 Huǒ
Trigram Line - ☲ 101
Obtained Images - 中虛 Hollow Middle
Personality - Sovereignty
Personality 性 - the Clinging, radiance
Stage/ state - clinging, clarity, adaptable
Action - Love
Attribute - light-giving, humane "dependence"
Meaning 意義 麗 - Rapid movement, radiance, the sun, pulsing motion, radiance, the luminaries
Stone - Ruby
Flower - Crimson
Chinese Zodiac - Snake
Animal - 雉 pheasant
Planet - Mars
Houtian Bagua's Solstices and Equinoxes - Summer Equinox Vermillion Bird
how in the dream novel does wk have 5 sons with pif but the first son never met him?
Considering that it is a dream it doesn't make much sense, perhaps there could be an argument that Wukong just met with Princess Iron Fan after each child was born and didn't intact with them personally. Which would be quite strange but this is supposed to be the "bad timeline" kind of universe so perhaps it was to kinda follow that?
Personally, I have a headcanon that is far less likely but one I enjoy far more.
That being they were quintuplets.
Like Wukong just knocked her up once in her tummy and that was it, he would like child support from afar but like never really really wanted kids. That to me is 1. Funnier to think he only jumped in her belly once and has like 5 kids now and 2. goes with the wackiness of the dream-like realm. There is a very low chance that anyone would think to have five kids at once even in fiction but to me, Wukong having quintuplets off the bat in a bad dream is peak comedy.