How do you think the Prison Dimension exists in ROTTMNT? The movie doesn’t go too in detail and visuals of it can only show so much. I’d like to think it exists like a weird void where it shouldn’t exist, yet for some reason it does. Like it defies all laws of physics imaginable. My point of reference is another Star Trek The Next Generation episode called Where Silence Has Lease, where a black void of nothing exists and the Enterprise and its crew enter it against their better judgment. Once inside, there’s no distance, no edge. No matter how fast they go or how much they zoom in with their computer screens to see anything, it’s all the same. I’d like to think that’s how the prison dimension acts. Beyond the Krang graveyard, beyond the lights that show the inside, there’s just nothing. Pure endlessness. How frightening. Sorry if this went on lol, I love sci fi horror stuff
Alright class it's time for a fun game I like to call: "Inductive Reasoning!" It's never fully explained to us so all we can go off of is what details we notice in the source material! So that's what we're gonna do below the cut...
For starters, I had originally assumed that the Prison Dimension the Krang were in and the Twilight Realm where the Shredder had been sealed was the same place, but after much consideration I have decided that is not the case.
The Twilight Realm for example, is very easy for Yokai to access, which is why Karai still had to seal Shredder away within that realm rather than just toss him in and leave him to rot like they did with the Krang. What's more, the ONLY way to access the The Prison Dimension is through the Key (or by literally tearing open the fabrics of existence as Mikey had).
So, let's look at the information we can gather from the movie about the Prison Dimension:
Gravity exists (though it varies and is much lighter than Earth's)
Air exists (otherwise Leo would have suffocated and sound would not have been able to travel)
Difference in Passage of Time (?) (otherwise Krang would have to live for a very very very long time, which they probably DO live much longer than humans, but I doubt they could live THAT long... though still long enough for most to die out.)
Death is possible in this realm (as stated above).
Stars or some sort of light source seem to exist (can easily see them in the BG at varying distances)
Physics (movement/speed/impact) seem to be impaired
This final detail is one I'm PARTICULARLY interested in. Did you ever notice just how... slow Leo and Krang Prime move in the Prison Dimension? As if they're moving underwater or through molasses. Krang Prime literally can move at mach speeds on Earth when it suits him, but in the Prison Dimension he can't even move fast enough to catch up to Mikey's portal in the climax of the film. It also might explain why Leo was able to take such a beating and still survive if Prime's attacks were being weakened by the environment. Sure he could have been pulling his punches but... he was so angry and having lived in that prison for centuries he is probably very aware of how the environment affects his attacks.
Last but not least we have Splinter's brief explanation of the dimension's origin, in which he states that the Key was a weapon FORGED by the mystic warriors of the past to lock the Krang in a prison dimension. Does this mean that they created the dimension as well? This might make sense if it's something that can ONLY be accessed by that Key and might also explain why Mikey could basically "pick the lock" since he is a Hamato as well.
So what can we gather from this information?
It's NOT deep space
It can NOT be accessed like other parallel dimensions
It's a place that seems to defy the law of physics
It seems to have a different passage of time
CURRENT WORKING THEORY: most likely a small pocket dimension created by the mystic warriors specifically designed to contain and keep the Krang weak.
While there are light sources all around the background we have no guarantee that they are actually stars. It could be sources of light from Krang tech being used to keep the place lit (which makes sense given their consistently pink hue).
What's more the distant pinpoints of light might simply be debris reflecting those light sources. It's hard to say but it makes sense since if there were other solar systems around then the Krang would have likely moved towards those other locations in search of resources.
Sadly this is only a working theory based off of details I have noticed. I would be very interested to hear other people's theories on what that place could possibly be. It's all very mysterious but I think that's what I like about it. It's allowed for some very unique interpretations in other AU's!
But for the time being, it's what I'm sticking with for Replica.
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So how would Zanka be able to escape AU Kyouka and Goka? Would the cleaners have been able to find a way?
Either Goka manages to convince Kyouka to take Zanka outside to "play" a little and he manages to break free from there (due to them chronically underestimating him). Or the Cleaners of this world somehow manage to locate the Raider HQ and raid- pun intended- it together with the Hell Guard, leading to them finding Zanka's prison. Not yet sure on which option of the two I prefer more.
No matter how it happened, though, all hell breaks loose. Kyouka and Goka do N O T appreciate their baby brother leaving at all. Especially Kyouka is freaking out-- it's like that horrible, horrible night all over again. When Zanka was so weak and small in her arms, taken away by the doctors to get treated, only for her to never see him again. As though she's losing her family all over again...
Welp. Let's just say they are working HARD on getting him back. "Every possible resource we can manage to allocate to this" in fact. Zodyl is not getting a second of peace until Zanka's back in their arms and so help them God they will put a literal BOOT up his ass if he won't help. He can't believe he's being pressured into a manhunt by his subordinates. Guess it's time to attack the Cleaners ig???
I have a question, hope you don't mind answering but does the fanchildren exists?
No worries at all~! Okay, I'm pausing in the middle of writing this to warn you that I am attempting to explain multiversal bullshit here. XD
Pausing AGAIN to sincerely apologize for the word vomit you are about to witness.
Hm... I'm not as familiar with fanchildren, but I don't think they could exist in STTMH (at least in the traditional way).
The way my multiverse works is that new AUs come into being as long as they have a connection to an already existing universe, but they are completely separated from the multiverse to start off with. A lot of fanchildren's origins usually start off already in the multiverse, so in that case, they would not exist (unless two characters get together in the story, but I have never written romance before, hehe)
Fanchildren could exist in a different form— for example, an AU is formed that has the fanchild in it. Instead of being direct parents, the 'influence' would instead link the fanchild's universe to the 'parent' universe. So instead of having a parent-child relationship, the child would simply be an 'offset' of the parent universe with a link.
*stares at my explanation*
This may have been the most convoluted answer ever, but I tried
In 12 Angry Men, do you think the kid was guilty, innocent, or do you feel that the film never wanted us to know?
I think the point of the movie is to underline the word you’re using: “KNOW.”
Every character who changes their vote, when pressed to explain themselves, basically throws up their hands and says, “I don’t know, I don’t know if he’s innocent but I don’t know if he’s guilty, and that’s why I’m changing my vote.”
“Knowing” is a very specific thing.
It’s not guessing. It’s not “what’s probable.” It’s not “I just feel this way, I feel it so strongly.” It’s not “what sounds likely,” it’s not even “the kind of thing I’ve heard of before/could happen.” It’s not even what you believe.
It’s, “no, do you have a string of facts that all work together to produce overwhelming certainty?” Or do you have a “reasonable doubt?”
Not just any doubt. Anything factual can start to look non-factual if you just belabor it. Pick it apart. Squint your eyes and tilt your head. The human mind is super strong, in its way. It can convince itself that the surest thing in the world, right in front of your nose, is questionable. But that’s why it’s not just called “doubt.” It’s called “reasonable doubt.”
And the whole movie is saying, “so you know it? Not believe it, not feel it, not want it—know it? Or is there reasonable doubt, based on what you can know?”
So I think that’s the whole point of the movie. The whole point of the movie is not “did the boy commit murder?” Nobody knows that. The 12 jurors don’t know; they don’t know at the beginning of the movie, and they don’t know at the end. The judge doesn’t know. The only people who know are the boy himself and God. The whole point of the movie is “You don’t know everything, but what do you know?”
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Yorki is always ready for the next adventure for sure, high seas comes with freedom and adventure and grandeur, however he DOES listen… sometimes, when it comes to crew safety.
Brook is always a bit.. on edge, for he’s raised men before, taught and trained and dictated troops before- he’s an ex military convoy leader after all!
However that sometimes does not STOP Calico Yorki utterly, and even if Brook yells, if Captain thinks it will be fun and okay to do? THEYRE DOIN IT!
What you really gotta look out for a leash are the god damn Mizutas. The pair of them want to be JUST like their captain, to the extent of mirroring Yorki’s sword hilts and Brook’s attack patterns [ canonic behavior.] HOWEVER this means if Yorki’s off, SO ARE THEY!
Those two grown men need leashes even more than their Captain, but thank god for Brook, John and others for being at least SOME brains among a vigorously excitable crew.
