#sttmh lore

dump it all up

I was in need of more STTMH content, and since I have free will, the power of an artist, and Classic sans by my side I decided to draw fanarts 🎉

It's a bit messy, hope you don't mind, I really love the Dreamtale twins' relationship with Classic and tried to envision on the before so I came up with these. I like the idea of the twins being a lot shorter back then (y'know more "sans" Like) but when Classic met those two again irl, they had suddenly got a growth spurt like at least 2 heads taller than him now and Classic doesn't know how to deal with it.

Mama classic with his 4 godly skeleton children, 2 which had caused mad destruction. (I'll draw ink and error later, so expect more to come)

Your story really dragged me back deeper into the UTMV fandom and I gotta say I did not regret reading every single chapter.

Also funny note, after I finished reading the whole entire fic (with the extras too) I got this massive headache and I can't help but blame it on Classic.

I am calm. Oh my gosh.

They

are

so

CUTE

Yes

Dump it all on me

The twinsssss <3

I actually try to leave the twins' heights up to interpretation! I hate assigning numbers to height and things like that, so unless I want a size difference to be emphasized, I usually avoid mentioning it.

When the twins first came into existence (I'm not even sure if 'born' is the right word for it, haha), they were fully grown (Sans-size). However, after they obtained their respective apples, there are some interpretations that have them grow significantly in height (like yours!), so it is open-ended :D

So if you want Nightmare leering over Classic, go for it (technically, he could do that regardless of his height, but you know what I mean). And if you want Classic to be able to rest his elbow on evil Nightmare's skull, go for it!

Classic took many naps under the tree. He developed a bit of a hate of it as he learned more about the twins' background, but it was the best nap spot around.

If you mean more universes like alternate timelines of Classic's universe, yes! They typically are variants of a mix of genocidal, pacifist, and neutral routes (Classic's universe is a huge anomaly among these various endings). However, none of them have had interactions with the multiverse.

Classic is the first among the 'Undertale' variant universes to link with the multiverse.

-> One mechanic for STTMH is that the links that form between universes need to form in order- i.e. for each kind of universe, the first that connects is the 'parent' of all the others.

Wanted to ask if classic has the capabilities to shortcut into the dream universes he's visited by technicality? Since he hasn't been there "physically" but his dream version of himself was. Esp. Since he's visited dreamtale on accident before w/ nightmare in a previous chapter (even if that wasn't intentional)

Anyways love your work overall make sure to take breaks and not overwork yourself 💜

I need to update the Lore post. Haven't done it in almost a year. XD

So, fun fact: no one really knows how to identify which universe is original. Error is certain he'll be able to identify it via its code and links, but he's never actually seen the original. He's going through more of a process of elimination kind of thing.

There have certainly been some who wondered if they were part of the original universe, but in reality, few really care. There have been plenty of existential crises, of course, but it matters little to them whether they are the original or not. In the chaos of the multiverse, being a 'regular' universe has its advantages.

It's been more of a backbone mystery for many, in that it's something they would like to know, but there are more important things to focus on.

Will Classic go to Horrors/killers/dusts universes? I can imagine him going both accidentally and purposely

Is anyone still alive in horrors au? Like his brother? If so will Classic meet him? Is horror allowed to visit his brother (if alive)? Would nightmare even allow that?

How evil IS nightmare? Does he be evil/kill cause he enjoys it or is it cause of balance?? Does the gang enjoy killing too? Is balance of creativity/destruction and positivity/negativity an important thing in SSMTH? Is the gang close or is just them being civil with each other cause nightmare forces it??

I haven’t read it in a while so sorry if some of the questions are already answered 😭

I'm still debating how exactly Classic would enter their universes, but it is a possibility! Depends on whether the right circumstances will arise in the story.

Yes, monsters are still alive in Horror's universe- including his brother. Again, it depends on whether the right circumstances arise. Yes, Horror is allowed to visit his universe, albeit rarely. It is less for Horror or his brother and more to fuel a certain monster's paranoia, which Nightmare takes sadistic glee in.

There is no balance in STTMH. Creativity, destruction, negativity, and positivity are forces to be reckoned with, but there is no innate balance that must be maintained. I think I answered this in another ask, but I put Nightmare on a 7-8 scale of evilness. He's a sadist and enjoys causing chaos and pain, but he is not as evil as some other Nightmares in other multiverses, most likely. He does still care about some things- other than causing negativity.

The Gang certainly doesn't mind killing, but it's not always for the sake of enjoyment. Usually, someone just gets in their way or for a mission, etc. The only exception is Cross- he does his best to avoid killing wherever possible (though he is not always successful).

Nah, the Gang likes each other- to a degree. There's always a period when someone new joins, and there was tension, but over time, they each developed a certain tolerance of each other. Here are some examples:

Cross was very disturbed by Killer's soul and blood collection and avoided Killer for a long time due to it.

Dust is very disgusted by Horror's certain eating habits.

Horror finds Cross a hypocrite.

No worries at all~! Okay, I'm pausing in the middle of writing this to warn you that I am attempting to explain multiversal bullshit here. XD

Pausing AGAIN to sincerely apologize for the word vomit you are about to witness.

Hm... I'm not as familiar with fanchildren, but I don't think they could exist in STTMH (at least in the traditional way).

The way my multiverse works is that new AUs come into being as long as they have a connection to an already existing universe, but they are completely separated from the multiverse to start off with. A lot of fanchildren's origins usually start off already in the multiverse, so in that case, they would not exist (unless two characters get together in the story, but I have never written romance before, hehe)

Fanchildren could exist in a different form— for example, an AU is formed that has the fanchild in it. Instead of being direct parents, the 'influence' would instead link the fanchild's universe to the 'parent' universe. So instead of having a parent-child relationship, the child would simply be an 'offset' of the parent universe with a link.

*stares at my explanation*

Also, do the other Sans know classic is the original or do they think classic is just a Sans anomaly??

Ps: congratulations! you are the first blog I've ever 'asked'

Welcome to the Tumblr wonder of the ask box~!

Right now in the story, everyone believes Classic is just another Sans from a regular AU. They do not know he is from the 'original' universe. Because of this, Ink and Error both see him as a 'regular' Sans, if a bit more anomalous than the normal.

Also, verrrry interesting that you mention that Classic's universe is outside the multiverse.

I don't know If anyone already said it but what if frisk did the pacifist run left, to never come back and touch the game, since sans in the genocide run (if you accept the mercy) said if you are truly sorry they should leave and never come back, so frisk left them so that they could have their happy ending without them.

But that's just a theory... A GAME theory!

(BTW your work is awesome, Talented af)

Aww, thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying it!

There was a part of Classic that hoped that Frisk still existed somewhere, but he hasn't found them. He's gone through numerous records, such as birth and death certificates, hospital records, etc., looking for Frisk. He's been unable to, however.